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Hmm, can't seem to let this go...dug a bit more and found this screengrab from ESB asteroid field scene
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Looks to me that the smaller gray graphic is on the lower half backboard/outside of the dish. Just checked my model and I have to repaint it as I use Tony's disc from shapeways and it's not symmetric so simply to swivel it won't work :(
 
Hmm, can't seem to let this go...dug a bit more and found this screengrab from ESB asteroid field scene
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Looks to me that the smaller gray graphic is on the lower half backboard/outside of the dish. Just checked my model and I have to repaint it as I use Tony's disc from shapeways and it's not symmetric so simply to swivel it won't work :(

I don't really think it matters which is right because the whole dish can be flipped around regardless. The important thing would be to make sure the bigger one is on the opposite side of the smaller one and you're good to go.
 
Hi guys

Got a question for the Landing Light Positions

This is one interpretation from some Japanese or Korean book (no idea what its called)
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And this is another interpetation from Mark Kozik
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Which one is correct or is both wrong? or is it simply based on what one could see in the film. Thinking especially on the Asteroid and Bespin Scenes from ESB. Any ideas?

Here's a screen grab showing the underside lights added to the 5-footer for TESB. Hope this helps a little. star-wars5-movie-screencaps.com-5173.jpg
 
Yea maybe ur right. Insane how stuff like this matters. I guess after X amount Hours of work one just want it to be right :).

A small piece of advice. As you know there are several model of the Falcon the primary ones being the 5 footer and the 32". when trying to paint your falcon you're going to need to pic one... trying to match the details between the two is a path to insanity... the two models are alike only in general shape and macro details. Anything that is related to specific detailed parts paint and weathering is going to be from totally to slightly different... but different none the less. My advice is to learn how to distinguish between the two models (if you have not already) and then pick one to try and replicate. mixing and matching while simultaneously trying to be accurate is a pretty impossible task :D.

Most of the detailing on the Hasbro falcon is based off the 32" but there is plenty of the 5 footer in there as well. with Tony's parts you're well on your way to being darn close to the 32" so that is how I'm going with mine... your mileage may vary :).

Jedi Dade
 
Now thats super advice. Being sort a new to the mania of trying to get it almost right I guess I was confused with all the Ref pics around. I think I just got around to spot the difference between the 5 Footer and the 32"...I got like over 6-7 gig of Reference pictures of only the Falcon so confusion is preprogrammed if you are not sure what your looking at.

Again cheers!
 
Now thats super advice. Being sort a new to the mania of trying to get it almost right I guess I was confused with all the Ref pics around. I think I just got around to spot the difference between the 5 Footer and the 32"...I got like over 6-7 gig of Reference pictures of only the Falcon so confusion is preprogrammed if you are not sure what your looking at.

Again cheers!
LOL welcome to the madness,I'm the same every device in the house has a falcon folder Lol
i was in a model shop today .....they had the rerelease of the tamiya 1:25 centurion
the sign in the shop said Don't Open the Box

i opened the box........it may be €100 but I very nearly took that step to 5 foot madness when I saw the contents :eek

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Now thats super advice. Being sort a new to the mania of trying to get it almost right I guess I was confused with all the Ref pics around. I think I just got around to spot the difference between the 5 Footer and the 32"...I got like over 6-7 gig of Reference pictures of only the Falcon so confusion is preprogrammed if you are not sure what your looking at.

Again cheers!
LOL welcome to the madness,I'm the same every device in the house has a falcon folder Lol
i was in a model shop today .....they had the rerelease of the tamiya 1:25 centurion
the sign in the shop said Don't Open the Box

i opened the box........it may be €100 but I very nearly took that step to 5 foot madness when I saw the contents :eek
 

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Yea maybe ur right. Insane how stuff like this matters. I guess after X amount Hours of work one just want it to be right :).

Pssst...but...but what about the details on the base ITSELF - are they symetrical, or will they be in the wrong position on your Falcon if you just flip the dish? BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Now you'll NEVER sleep at night again! :devil
 
"Guys", there seems to be some confusion re: the dish orientation, left-right, etc. However, the dish & mount are articulated, which means the dish can swing through the entire arc of it's horizontal pivot (not quite 180 degrees, but close) along with the base, which can rotate a full 360 degrees in a horizontal plane about it's vertical center axis. What does mean to the modeler working on the details? Probably nothing as long as the dish is centered on the 'A-frames' that connect it to the pivot hinge. I haven't tried to determine if it is the case, but I suspect it is centered (aka 'symmetrical') on the mount simply because that would have been much easier to accomplish when it was built.

Now, the dish mount itself must consist of at least two main assemblies, namely the outer 'ring' or base that is affixed to (into?) the hull and the rotating 'plate' with the lower A-fames & pivot pin. The plate is set onto the base and can of course rotate to any degree about it's center (only logical for a directional dish antenna as depicted.) As noted in the decal survey, the ANH screen caps of the TIE fighter "duel" shows the dish facing generally forward, but the visible port A-frame detail does not match what has been seen in the 'road show' image archives. I hadn't previously noticed the asymmetrical 'gray panel' application, but certainly that will support the fact that 1) the base plate has been rotated to show the other side frame & 2) the dish itself was 'flipped' over to face forward as is expected. BTW, the ANH 'duel' scenes *are* of the 5-footer. The 'super-sized' antenna prop was used in one of the subsequent movies (ESB, I believe), evident from the 'closeup' framing used for its scene and which shows *no hull* in the background.

So, the details are unchanged regardless of overall orientation, just make sure you match the main parts to the correct relative orientation ( in short, use consistent photo references...avoid mixing 'old' & 'new' pix.)

Regards, Robert
 
The details that I cue from in figuring out which reference model I'm looking at...

- The little ball on the cockpit side (32) vs. the air cleaner looking thingy (5 footer).
- The boxes on the top front of the main hull connecting to the mandibles rounded oil pain looking thingy (32) vs. the angle sharp edged thingy (5 footer).
- Rear engine deck - the missle halves coming off the tiger engine deck (32") vs. the shock absorber looking things with the piping coming off (5 footer).
- The long conckpit cone (32") vs. the short/stubby cockpit cone (5 footer)

Those few cues are usually available in most reference pics you're looking at, and can be used to tell what you're looking at. After a while - you'll just know :D.

Jedi Dade
 
You know what I find amazing. This movie is almost 30 years old and everytime you watch it, you see something new you never noticed before. Then when you sit and begin to try to find details, you notice something else completely out of the blue that you never realized was there. I think that is what makes this movie such a big deal... it's timeless!
 
You know what I find amazing. This movie is almost 30 years old and everytime you watch it, you see something new you never noticed before. Then when you sit and begin to try to find details, you notice something else completely out of the blue that you never realized was there. I think that is what makes this movie such a big deal... it's timeless!

Speaking of finding new on the movies...I was looking at some screencaps and I notice this. The scene where the Falcon just exited Hyperdrive on the way to Alderan
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See how the Exhaust Light is not centered to the model's exhaust...Hahaha.....its the official rear end of the five footer....LOL!!!

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I noticed that too! Looking at it, spread out over the upper deck made me think it wasn't from the sublight engines at all but rather an effect from the hyperdrive... interpretation is a wonderful & terrible thing!

Regards, Robert
 
Speaking of finding new on the movies...I was looking at some screencaps and I notice this. The scene where the Falcon just exited Hyperdrive on the way to Alderan
See photos..

See how the Exhaust Light is not centered to the model's exhaust...Hahaha.....its the official rear end of the five footer....LOL!!!

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If you watch that shot frame by frame (I have) the engine glow moves around and eventually goes to the "correct" spot just before the shot ends. I attribute this to ILM'ers having one too many beers (or other popular substances of the 70's) at lunch. Since this the only time we actually see the falcon in hyperspace - if you want to repurpose the engine vets as "hyperspace engine projectors" based on this evidence I could live with that... it could explain the burn streaking coming off the vents a bit.

Jedi Dade
 
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