Master Chief suit.

Discussion in 'Replica Costumes' started by Rebo, Aug 15, 2005.

  1. Rebo

    Rebo Well-Known Member

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    :D First post and fingers crossed. :D

    I'm planning on making a wearable Master Chief suit for occasional and mannequin use.

    I know thats suits are being sold out there,but these are a little to expensive for me to justify buying to the Missus. :unsure

    What I really need is good reference shots of the suit showing lots of detail..

    I plan, for the most part on building up using plastic corrugated card (readly available to me from work) and then fibreglassing over the top.

    I would guess it would be wishful thinking that there is a tutorial knocking about?.

    Anyone fancy posting pictures of their own efforts or suits please feel free as I would love to see them, as i'm sure others would too.

    Rebo...
     
  2. Rebo

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    I meant to add this link for a tutorial I found. It could have been so useful
    had it been completed. :(

    MasterChief Tutorial.
     
  3. BRIARS ARMOR

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  4. Rebo

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    Your armour Mr Briars is without a doubt absolutley AWESOME...
    I love the battle hardened look its got about it.
    The Pictures on your site will help me out loads, thanks for that.

    I will say though looking at your armour, I never realised there were so many curved surfaces, ho hum :confused . I always assumed it would have been alot sharper and angled, you know polygonised.

    Top site though...

    Anyone else care to post a picture or link, as you can never have enough reference material before you start a project.
     
  5. BRIARS ARMOR

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    if you have a hastings book store near by they carry a book called the art of halo which is a good reference

    or the book to walk you through the game is also good


    Briar
     
  6. pfcGentry

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    I too am trying my go at a full set of armor, I have a lot of Refrence Pics, that I would be willing to share.. They already include Briars Images, as well as alot of the Nightmare Armor Studios Images ( I live right down the street from them.) and some random images I have as well..


    They can be Accessed Here


    Hope this helps, and if you come across anything I don't have please send them this way.

    pfcGentry@Gmail.com
     
  7. Rebo

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    Some nice shots in there pFc, thankyou and please post any prgress you make.

    A picture I have just found Here is excellent, just wish I could find a back view of it. There might have been one, but the site is not in English and I was rushed for time, might bable it once I get the chance.
    [​IMG]

    Anyone know the makers of the model?.

    Is Hastings book store in the Uk?.

    I thought there might have been a little more input on this topic. :unsure
    I'll post pictures of any progress I make then it might gain a little more interest.

    What I might do is attempt to prototype the Cod-piece over the weekend if work permits, Should be fun.:)

    Also, If I can work it out as I go along i'll try and make templates of the different pieces. Might get people building along with me that way.
     
  8. slave1driver

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    If you still don't have all you need, you might try googling up some xbox hacks to get the actual 3d mesh file. I was reading on a halo pistol thread here (http://www.rpf.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=84998&st=50#) that it is possible to get the actual 3d model from the a halo disk. 'Doesn't get much more accurate than that. Might be more trouble than its worth if you don't know how to use the output in a cad tool, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
     
  9. Rebo

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    Thanks for the idea Slave I might look into it, but on saying that look at what I just found Here..

    This is what I'm going to aim for...
    Lol, and I thought it was a desktop model. :confused

    Some really really nice models on the rest of the site that might interest others.

    * nightshift, I want to get started now. :p
     
  10. slave1driver

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    Dayam thats big. Should be a good ref.
     
  11. pfcGentry

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    Glad I can help I will also post pics on what I have as I get time to work on it, I am always busy, but so far I have started the gloves.

    That pic of the model is great thanks I did not have that one...
     
  12. clonesix

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    Speaking of that very thing, here is a link to a guy who did just that. This guy extracted the 3D mesh file and unfolded it to run it through his color printer.

    http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jmandmc/costume1.html

    Do we have anybody here capable of this?
     
  13. Rebo

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    Lol, that is so cool.. :thumbsup

    slave1, looks like your idea wasn't so far out there after all, fairplay mate.. :confused

    A little searching and I found this little app that is able to unfold various 3d file types....

    Software Extension Content to Load
    Wavefront obj * Shape Data
    * UV coordinate for texture
    AutoCAD dxf * Shape Data
    * layer
    Metasequoia mqo * Shape Data
    * UV coordinate for texture
    * material
    * object list
    3D Studio 3ds * Shape Data
    * UV coordinate for texture
    * material
    Lightwave lwo * Shape Data
    * UV coordinate for texture
    * material

    Means diddly squit, to me anyone fancy doing a little unfolding?.
     
  14. TK648

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    That is very cool
    Thank you for sharing that


     
  15. TK648

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    It is a desk top model 12.6 inches
    there was one on ebay going for about $300.00

    It looks just like the full size Muckle mannequin.
     
  16. Rebo

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    Are you sure, the site says it's 190cm tall.
    How bigs your desk then.. :p
     
  17. TK648

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    My desk is L shaped and big enough for two computers and alot of
    paper work, most of which is crap :lol

    I am sure about the size
    Muckle Mannequins made two statues
    the full size display mannequin
    and the one that is made for a desk or shelf display
    and I belive both were sculpted by the same studio

    check these links
    Muckle Mannequins
    there is a quick menu button on the bottom right of the page
    Note: The entire site is in German

    And this one shows the assembly instructions for the Halo MC mannequin

    MC assembly instructions

    Enjoy
     
  18. TK648

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    Any body have any up dates on their halo projects

    TK648
     
  19. Rebo

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    Well I made the rough shape for the front of the cod-piece, which looked pretty good, but screwed up on fiberglassing it. Now im in the process of picking and chipping all the resin and matt off it :angry .

    You lot make it sound easy..lol swines... :p

    I think I need to invest in some better materials as I was using auto-repair resin and glass-matt which cured before I had a chance to layup properly. It set within in 3minutes with tufts of glass bridging contours and not bedded. I think it was more down to me than anything else being to generous with the hardener.. :unsure you live and learn.

    What brand and so on do you lot use to fiberglass with?.
    Any tips?.
     
  20. TK648

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    I don't mess with the polyester resin,
    I slush cast or brush in some polyurethane resin for the detail coat
    when it gels enough, it gets a second coat, when that gels then I lay in the fiber glass cloth
    with more urethane resin,
    I use smooth on resin's and silicones mostly


    TK648
     
  21. RICHIES ARMOR

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    try using BONDO car body filler then sanding it down

    Briar
     
  22. Jedidentist

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    My battle rifle is about 70% complete...and it's a real PITA.

    Derek
     
  23. RICHIES ARMOR

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  24. JediCarl

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    :eek That is just AWESOME. No other way to put it.

    And there is no doubt that Briar is the envy of all of his friends.
     
  25. TK648

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  26. synasp

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  27. pfcGentry

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    That is Nightmarearmor... they no longer make the armor, microsoft paid them off to stop making them, and bought like 50 suits( probally for the Halo movie coming out). But they wont even respond to any one that mails them about the armor. I have tried numerous times with no luck.

    www.nightmarearmorstudios.com
     
  28. synasp

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    eh... that's what I figured, but wasn't sure. I don't understand what that undersuit with the yellow trim is for--is that how it's suppose to be?

    It's nice looking armor, but I've heard so many bad things about Nightmare.
     
  29. pfcGentry

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    The under armor is paintball/hockey padding depend on who made the armor, the armor was good quility but towards the end it got worse b/c of all the hype from Microsoft and G4Tech Tv, they were unable to keep up with the demand and got sloppy, plus all therer molds were breaking down so lines were not as crisp as they began with. you can only do so many pulls from the mold before you have to re sculpt.
     
  30. synasp

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    Where are the files? I could take them to Kinkos to get printed. Are the proportions correct? Even on the Muckle statue, the proportions look a bit off.

    Richie and Briar, fantastic work--the both of you. :thumbsup
     
  31. TK648

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    So they were
    Unable to keep up with demand and got sloppy, I guess that explains why I got this the way I did. (see link to pics below)

    One of the other reasons I heard right from the sculpters own mouth in a G4Tech Tv interview.

    G4 How long did it take you to sculpt the armor
    NA It took three months :confused

    Wow a whole three months,

    I would like to hear from one of our own Talented sculptors here on the board,
    How long would it take to sculpt a suit of Masterchief armor from head to toe

    I beleive I got one of the last suits that they made.

    Link to pics below

    I can barely sculpt to save my life, but I know good sculpting when I see it, I don't see it here

    My Armor Nightmare Kit

    I would like to re-work the helmet and make it look more like the helmet on the figure
    However I do not have the patience to do that :(

    TK648
     
  32. synasp

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    yikes............ if you wouldn't mind, how much did that kit set you back?

    I can't believe they'd sacrifice quality like that. terrible.
     
  33. TK648

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    PM sent

    TK648
     
  34. RICHIES ARMOR

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    It took me right at 10 months to sculpt our set thats with Steves help doing the thighs and helmet. Really you can do it pretty quickly..its just getting it right thats a lot of work.

    Richie
     
  35. TK648

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  36. TK648

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    I found that G4 interview
    however I have no clue on how to host a vid

    can any body help

    TK648
     
  37. synasp

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    interesting article. I thought Microsoft and NA were buddy-buddy.

    So Halo 1 and 2 armor is different, correct? Which do people prefer?
     
  38. TK648

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    Yes the Halo 1 and Halo 2 armor is different

    I prefer Halo2

    TK648
     
  39. synasp

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    So then "Art of Halo" wouldn't help with Halo 2 armor.... dang......... Does anyone have specs for the H2 suit? Reference pics?
     
  40. pfcGentry

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    Wow TK648 I cant believe they sent you that I have seen some of their armor in person because I live right down the street from them but I cant believe it got that bad, plus the materials look different then what i seen....

    What it it they used for your kit?

    is it resin or vacuform? I cant tell (still learning)...

    any ways sorry to hear and see they sent you such a horrible set there.


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  41. TK648

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    It's slush cast resin resin,
    When I emailed them about one of the shoulder bells weighing in at two pounds and being at least a quarter inch thick, I was told that a dremel and a half hour would fix the problem
    the other shoulder bell weighed one pound, and of course they nested the heavy one inside the
    lighter one for shipping, which warped and cracked the lighter one


    tk648
     
  42. pfcGentry

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    what resources do you have on Slush resin ? I cant seem to find any where that sells it.

    EDIT: I alos found this is this a decent tutorial or an idea on how it works? giver take a few things...

    Slush Casting

    or TK648 if you have a great tutorial and a few ideas could you PM me with them.

    Thanks in advance.


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  43. TK648

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    The ideal slush casting resin should be like paint so it clings to your mold walls
    and does not kick to quickly. I seen that tutorial you posted I never care for aluminumlite
    resin. PolyTek makes a resin called Polygel below is the discription
    I have not tried this yet so I cannot give an opinion on this product
    I am not crazy about the three min gel time 5 to 7 min would be better
    POLYGEL® FEATURES:

    * Tough, with high strength
    * Good grease and oil resistance
    * Fast - one day parts
    * Easy 1:1 mix, by weight or volume
    * Good adhesion between coats
    * Good dimensional stability
    * Long mold and shell storage life
    * Color coded mix indication


    Polygel® Plastic-75 thickens to a paste with a 3 minute working time. As the liquid components of Polygel® are stirred together, the mix changes color and thickens to a buttery, non-sag paste. A shell can be built up in two or three coats, each applied about ten minutes apart, so a strong, lightweight mold shell can be made in less than an hour and demolded in about 4 hours.
     
  44. pfcGentry

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    Well what slush resin do you use?

    And is therer any tutorials on here that i can read, bc I want to try to scult the armor in clay first then make a RTV Silicone mold of it from that them use the Slush resin?


    is that the correct way to do it?
     
  45. TK648

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    You will want to use a sulfur free clay, to do your sculpts
    if there is sulfur in the clay it will not allow the silicone rubber
    to cure at the surface where it is in contact with the clay
    and you will end up with a big gummy mess.
    goto this site
    Smooth-On Mold making tutorials
    There is alot of good info here on mold making.
    smooth on has a good mold making video or dvd for $19.95

    I have been trying to make my own slush casting resin using
    polyfiber (from polytek) and different resins from smooth-on
    One other way to go for slush casting is using fiberglass gelcoat
    you can find it here
    Fiberglast
    I seen a demo at a convention with this material being cast into a fiberglass mold
    it seemed to coat the mold very nice, I do not use it because i cannot stand the smell of
    fiberglass resin or the catalyst.

    If you want to stick with urethane resins for sluch casting remember that you cannot
    let the first coat of resin set up fully because the next coat will not stick to it.
    the first coat of resin has to still be tacky to the touch but set up enough that it will not
    run off the mold walls when the second coat is added.

    I found this site on a google search, there seems to be alot of good info here
    it is a forum board and one guy has a huge list of links for tutorials
    Talk about shop

    Hope this helps

    TK648
     
  46. synasp

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    Any speculation on what the Halo 3 armor will look like?

    If possible, can someone point me to Halo 2 armor references? (I tried the "guide books" and they were of no help) ...even just background on the story of Halo. Anyone read the books? :p
     
  47. pfcGentry

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    Did you look at my Refrence Guide zip file, the Nightmarearmor pictures are all for Halo 2.


    EDIT: Halo Refrence File
     
  48. TK648

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    Yea...check out PFC's halo zip file he had a few that I did not have.

    TK648
     
  49. JP05

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    Wow...that kit is pretty bad. Nightmare used pics of another groups armor at one time on thier website....claiming it was their own. They are a bunch of hacks if you ask me. Sloppy work. But that's my .02 Up close thier armor looks like it was sculpted from playdoh.
     
  50. synasp

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    Does anyone have the 3D model of Master Chief used in the game? I need the Halo 2 version. Thanks.


    David
     

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