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He went on about missions too much when talking to Skye, makes me think its a Nick Fury plan to infiltrate and find out their plans at all costs(and that he has known about Hydra for a long time.), even if it does cost a few people their lives.

I look forward to Maria though.

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Oooh, maybe he works for someone completely different and they're letting Hydra do all the heavy work :D
 
A few? Level 8 agent (Hand) 2 guards, an entire base (The Fridge) including letting loose all the prisoners, ALL the secret technologies, including the gravitonium that only Grant knew about...but decided to hand over to HYDRA anyway, AND potentially let HYDRA know about a fully furnished, secret base?

Even from a spectator's point of view, this is REALLY hard to accept when he says "Kidding! Fury's orders."
 
I think they are doing the same thing Stargate Atlantis did with Lt. Ford and Ronan. Take a character that is unpopular with the audience (Ward), turn him evil, but have him die in an act of redemption. In the meantime his replacement is already on the team (Agent Triplett).
 
Ward might not be Ward. He might have one of those bullcrap Scarlett Johansson old lady face disguises from Winter Soldier on, and Ward is prisoner somewhere. I hope not though.
 
I was really impressed with Skye's ability to recover from her realization, and bluff Ward. (Not to mention Ward's ability to pick up someone Oswalt's size and hide him in the ceiling, with a couple of broken ribs.)
 
It occurred to me as well that it was odd to shove him in something overhead. I think he'd of just dragged him into the storage room and left him in there covered up.
 
Considering Ward's profession is killing it's hard to believe that he would hide a body so obviously (in relative terms). I mean, there's no small side vent or an incinerator or random other storage locker that he could have stashed him in? I know there was a limited time frame for him to do it, but...
 
So, you think after Coulson would be so paranoid that he would let Ward escort the Hydra agent that trained him without any thought.... ;) If it fools other here, it fools Hydra. :lol

Dont' worry, I'm sure this last episode has been a COMPLETE distraction and red herring!!! I'm sure he'll turn out to be a double-double-double-double agent and he'll turn out okay in the end!!!!

:lol
 
Hello Kerr Avon

You know after taking out the Shield folks on the plane (as a start) as well as other things along the way and "finally" taking out the "new" guy with a Garrote me thinks he is REALLY a bad guy!!! However to me the guy being an Agent of Hydra is still up in the air. I think there is a THIRD player in the game and I also think that third player may be connected to statement made by a certain old school Marvel Universe Bad Guy seen at the end of CAWS; it went something like "Hydra Shield two sides of a coin" (someone correct me please if I am wrong) so is there someone FLIPPING THAT COIN!!! Time will tell!!!

darkev2
 
OK, Ward has gone bad. Can't deny it afte this episode. Which makes me wonder why Coulson put that amount of trust in him given his past.
 
Damn, was sad to see Eric bite it. Not liking the whole "just following orders" schtick they're throwing around with Ward, like they're trying to create a loophole where it's okay for him to turn good again. He's murdered at least six agents at this point, no amount of doe eyes from Skye excuses "just following orders." Interesting way to get around the lie detector, but I think Eric bought his story a little two easily after all the "he's lying" readings. And with 96 different things it monitors there's no way that pain should be giving "false negatives." It doesn't even work that way on real lie detectors.

Not to mention that if it were as sophisticated as they made it out to be it should have been able to tell that Ward was only partially telling the truth about being there because of/for Skye. Considering that you could tell that he had to sort of scramble to come up with that answer the lie detector should have detected something while he was trying to come up with a believable answer and then once he answered it should have been able to detect that while the answer was true there was more to it than what he said. There should have been a follow up question along the lines of, "Is Skye the only reason you're here? Do you have another reason for being here aside from Skye?".

I think in the end that Ward is going to betray Hydra because of Skye, whether it's because she convinces him to switch sides or they order him to kill her or something like that I think that he will turn in the end. He almost certainly won't be a part of the team and may not survive his turn for the good but I really do think that he will redeem himself in the end. I can actually envision a scenario where he gets captured and imprisoned but later on gets released because Coulson is in need of his expertise so he gets Ward let out to perform a special mission for him but will be locked up again after the mission is complete. Either that or Ward ends up really becoming a double agent for SHIELD within Hydra which redeems the character, keeps him alive but out of the way so they can bring him back for the occasional guest star role.
 
A few? Level 8 agent (Hand) 2 guards, an entire base (The Fridge) including letting loose all the prisoners, ALL the secret technologies, including the gravitonium that only Grant knew about...but decided to hand over to HYDRA anyway, AND potentially let HYDRA know about a fully furnished, secret base?

Even from a spectator's point of view, this is REALLY hard to accept when he says "Kidding! Fury's orders."

Well, he is like a crappy Soap Opera actor. Maybe, it will turn out to be his evil twin.
 
Damn, was sad to see Eric bite it. Not liking the whole "just following orders" schtick they're throwing around with Ward, like they're trying to create a loophole where it's okay for him to turn good again. He's murdered at least six agents at this point, no amount of doe eyes from Skye excuses "just following orders." Interesting way to get around the lie detector, but I think Eric bought his story a little two easily after all the "he's lying" readings. And with 96 different things it monitors there's no way that pain should be giving "false negatives." It doesn't even work that way on real lie detectors.

I just watched it tonight (forgot to DVR Tues...) and I totally agree. That was sloppy writing (like letting Ward come right to the "secret base"). In reality Ward wouldn't have been given any time to elaborate on his answer, they would say answer period.

I'm glad they had Skye go along with Ward like she was clueless. Usually they would have had her cower in that room until she was found. I liked her answer about her name too. :lol
 
I just figured it out: Ward really is a SHIELD agent. He has not been killing anyone, those are all life model decoys.
 
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