Mandate prices in the JY!
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ItsThatGuy
Sr Member
Agreed! I hate when someone says "Make an offer"
I mean I don't want to offend someone by going too low and I don't want to shoot myself in the foot for going too high...
defstartrooper
Sr Member
I don't mind people saying PM an offer personally, it does bug me they're labeled as FS threads though because yes they are closed auctions really.
If i see one of these threads and i'm not sure exactly what a good price to offer is i'll do a search for similar items sold previously or just offer what the piece is worth to me, i won't get into bidding wars in situations like this though especially as i have no idea what others are really offering.
Anything labeled as a FS thread though i think you're right should have a price listed.
If it doesn't then the the thread is just labeled wrong.
If i see one of these threads and i'm not sure exactly what a good price to offer is i'll do a search for similar items sold previously or just offer what the piece is worth to me, i won't get into bidding wars in situations like this though especially as i have no idea what others are really offering.
Anything labeled as a FS thread though i think you're right should have a price listed.
If it doesn't then the the thread is just labeled wrong.
Gigatron
Sr Member
And pictures - I know this comes up preiodically, but I hate the "PM me for pictures" thing. You obviously have pictures. You can host pictures for free with either wackychimp or any of the numerous online sites, so just post them.
What if everyone was like this - you get a weekly flyer from from the local grocery store and all it has is printed words, like "ice cream - 3 for $6" and "cans of vegetables - 10 for $10", but there are no pictures. And at the bottom, it says "Come into store to see actual product" - would you? Of course not.
-Fred
What if everyone was like this - you get a weekly flyer from from the local grocery store and all it has is printed words, like "ice cream - 3 for $6" and "cans of vegetables - 10 for $10", but there are no pictures. And at the bottom, it says "Come into store to see actual product" - would you? Of course not.
-Fred
motman241
Well-Known Member
A personal gripe - I hate to see Ebay auction advertisements in the Junkyard bumped. The thread is there, if people want to see it, they will. No need to bump something that has its own time schedule.
And on that same topic - I detest seeing Ebay auctions in the Junkyard. Yeah, thanks a pant-load for cutting an RPF member the same deal that Average Joe Ebay Shmuck gets. I'm gonna be bidding against some 12 year old doofus. Great. No thanks. If you have a quality product at a fair price, there is no reason to not offer them as-is, here.
And on that same topic - I detest seeing Ebay auctions in the Junkyard. Yeah, thanks a pant-load for cutting an RPF member the same deal that Average Joe Ebay Shmuck gets. I'm gonna be bidding against some 12 year old doofus. Great. No thanks. If you have a quality product at a fair price, there is no reason to not offer them as-is, here.
Agreed.
I'd be in favor of NO ebay auction threads unless the item has been offered here first. This is supposed to be a community, not just a place to advertise your auctions.
The Ghost That Walks
New Member
That wouldn't work in reality.
People inclined to post an ebay auction first would simply post it at an artificially inflated price in the JY and then "when it didn't sell" would post the ebay link.
Nice idea though.
Rabittooth
Well-Known Member
Agreed. Whenever I've had stuff up on Ebay, it's because I want to get as much money as possible for a particular item, and I never post the link here.
It just feel wrong somehow.
-Rabittooth
It just feel wrong somehow.
-Rabittooth
The Ghost That Walks
New Member
Yes sir, Mr Tooth.
Suggesting otherwise is silly. People want top dollar. The whole community idea is nice, but kind of goofy.
No one offers half-price robots because they like the community.
Tranh
The Ghost That Walks
New Member
What problem does it solve?
What's wrong about informing members that there is an item of interest available that can be gained by simple free market economics?
I no see any problem.
Tranh
The Ghost That Walks
New Member
Huh?
Isn't the greatest power the power not to click on someone's post?
Why should someone not become aware of an auction because you don't like it?
You make a big deal of nothing. No?
KnightAsylum
Sr Member
I think prices in the JY would be nice, but to each there own.
I don't agree with the eBay part. I think the fact that it is a community is why you do it. I know we have a lot of eBay haters here, but by posting the auction you are letting them know it is someone else in the community, not some random person. And if they want what you are selling and there other ones available on eBay (which most times there are) they may be more comfortable buying it from a fellow RPF person then a stranger.
A bigger question is what does it hurt? If you don't like it then why not just not click on the threads with FA in the title?
I thought that was the point of having FA and FS so that if folks are not into auctions they don't click.
I have sold things on ebay and linker here before and it has never been an issue. and if I know (or they tell me) that the winner is an RPF member then I either throw in a free item, or try and cut some money off the shipping for them. Either way it is still about looking out for the community.
2 cents
I don't agree with the eBay part. I think the fact that it is a community is why you do it. I know we have a lot of eBay haters here, but by posting the auction you are letting them know it is someone else in the community, not some random person. And if they want what you are selling and there other ones available on eBay (which most times there are) they may be more comfortable buying it from a fellow RPF person then a stranger.
A bigger question is what does it hurt? If you don't like it then why not just not click on the threads with FA in the title?
I thought that was the point of having FA and FS so that if folks are not into auctions they don't click.
I have sold things on ebay and linker here before and it has never been an issue. and if I know (or they tell me) that the winner is an RPF member then I either throw in a free item, or try and cut some money off the shipping for them. Either way it is still about looking out for the community.
2 cents
motman241
Well-Known Member
Ebay is about trying to squeeze the most amount of money out of people for something. This is how auctions work - getting people to fight over something, thus driving up the price. Many on here can not grasp that that is how auctions work. In the end, the person who wins was willing to pay the most amount of money. (before the time runs out, in Ebay's case) Having a link to an Ebay auction is merely an invitation to another community, to join in on the bidding.
If the seller were truly "looking out" for this RPF community, they would offer a fair product at a fair price in the Junkyard. Nofighting, no bidding, no problems.
....so they know who they are squeezing the money from in the end? Yeah, way to look out for a community friend. :unsure If they didn't want to offer it to a random person, why in the world did they offer it to a random community of people like Ebay in the first place?!?
Bandwidth, space, it bumps out legitimate RPF-only sales, undermines any "community" we might have here, you end up paying all of Ebay's fees.... but it sure doesn't hurt the seller's pocket book.
Cut money off the shipping? That means it was inflated to begin with. That's a nice "community" gesture - "I just screw the other guy on shipping, not you." :unsure Besides, however many nickles can be shaven off of shipping can't compare to the inflated price of the item. Again, if you offer a fair item at a fair price...
If you can't offer your item fairly to a comminty of thousands like this, maybe there is a problem.
If you truly want to be Ebay-involved, just let the RPF members tell you what their Ebay name is, and you can watch their auctions. Ebay does have a search feature - for members or items.
If you honestly believe in the good community here, keep the business here.
defstartrooper
Sr Member
Well yeah they kind of work like that, the keyword in the first sentence is trying, of course auctions don't always end in an inflated price though. You need people bidding so in some cases you can actually end up winning an item under it's true value.
I would imagine the majority of the people here who have an interest in an item are pretty well aware of an items worth and are wise enough to stop hitting that bid button when it gets too high.
Don't get me wrong i don't believe that people post their auctions here for the benefit of the community of course they don't, but then i'm under no illusion that for sale threads are either.
Bandwidth ? come on it's not 1990
they do bump regular for sale threads further down the list though i agree and sale threads should have some kind of priority because afterall they are advertising to a limited market where auctions are there for the whole world to see.
KnightAsylum
Sr Member
Selling something for what someone is willing to pay...hmmm what a concept. No one is getting screwed - you only bid what you want to pay. Whatever reason you are bidder does not have anything to do with me.
This whole paragraph deserves a ...:wacko
Ahhhh..you try to put words in my mouth by using quotes, but that doesn't really work unless I say what you quoted :confused. Just because you are paranoid and thing everyone is out to screw you does not mean everyone is. I cut the shipping price in half and pay for the other so IT IS looking out for them.
I think it IS fair to offer something that sells at true market value - somethings I sell just here, some also on eBay.
Why? Just put a link that works just as easy.
You are obviously an eBay hater, Mot - which is fine, just stay away from auctions - I respect your right to do that, but I will keep on posting them - as is my right. You might try instead on insisting everyone has to be like you just accept the fact that your bitter view of auctions is not shared by everyone.
Do you have to be SO obvious? Pathetic.
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GATORBAIT9696
Well-Known Member
I do I offer plaques here cheaper to the forum than on ebay.. so you can't say that is not true. I like Rebelscum's set-up with prices and no auctions. it all comes down to preference, on the way the JY rules are.
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