M-16's on the Moon! Help ID this "For All Mankind" Weapon (pics)

[Echo4890]

Looks interesting! Odd combination of an A2 lower and an A1 upper, but still looks neat.

 

[BrianM]

Those are my suits and if I remember, for the shot above, they where using some type of "air-soft" replica firearm. I'll ask the propmaster when we start back up.

That would be excellent. Did you go with smaller gloves so you would not need extra large triggers?

BrianM

 

[Riceball]

The M16 round is designed to tumble on impact for greater wounding. One of the problems in a jungle, lots of vegetation to mess up the flight of the bullet.

David.

It wasn't so much the 5.56 round used when the first M16s were fielded so much as the design of the rifle itself. The barrels of the M16/M16A1 had relatively low twist rate in the rifling of the barrel in order to cause the tumbling effect. However, as time went on, the twisting of the rifling got tighter and tighter in order to make the rounds more accurate.

 

[lmgill]

That would be excellent. Did you go with smaller gloves so you would not need extra large triggers?

BrianM

Yes. They went with Gemini gloves. They did this not only for the firearms, but also some of the smaller props.

 

[Zombie Killer]

Looks like the stock and handguards...,and the grip

R GUNS M4 MIL-SPEC STOCK WHITE AR15/M16 – RGuns

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R GUNS AR15 HAND GUARD A2 WHITE - RGuns

R GUNS AR15 HAND GUARD A2 WHITE

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R GUNS AR15 GRIP A2 WHITE - RGuns

R GUNS AR15 GRIP A2 WHITE

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[BrianM]

Looks like the stock and handguards...,and the grip

R GUNS M4 MIL-SPEC STOCK WHITE AR15/M16 – RGuns

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R GUNS AR15 HAND GUARD A2 WHITE - RGuns

R GUNS AR15 HAND GUARD A2 WHITE

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R GUNS AR15 GRIP A2 WHITE - RGuns

R GUNS AR15 GRIP A2 WHITE

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WOW! Nailed it.
Now who knows where to get a silver finish Airsoft M-16?

BrianM

 

[Zombie_61]

WOW! Nailed it.
Now who knows where to get a silver finish Airsoft M-16?

BrianM

Pick one.

 

[lmgill]

Talked with props today. Airsoft for scenes not firing, real weapons when firing.

 

[BrianM]

Thanks any word on the make of the airsoft they use?

 

[BrianM]

Can't find an airsoft with a long barrel and a collapsible stock.

 

[Echo4890]

From the pictures it looks like an WE M16A1 upper atleast (the cut underneath the rear sight is distinguishable, not positive though.) I think they may have changed some parts out, ie grips, buffer, stock. I just realized the lower is an A1 as well with A2 parts. (Profile of support underneath the buffer)

 

[lmgill]

My guess is these came from a prop shop, possibly ISS (independent Studio Services) and they are an older in stock rental gun they had that was customized. Or, the prop person used the term "Airsoft" as a generic term for a non-real gun.

 

[GrenadeKing]

From the pictures it looks like an WE M16A1 upper atleast (the cut underneath the rear sight is distinguishable, not positive though.) I think they may have changed some parts out, ie grips, buffer, stock. I just realized the lower is an A1 as well with A2 parts. (Profile of support underneath the buffer)

Yes! It's an A1 lower as well, I was just about to point that out.

A1 Upper and Lower, A2 handguard, A2 ejection port cover, no trigger guard, M4 stock, can't tell on the pistol grip, and a Colt style scope.

The barrels look like they might be A2 but, I can't really tell from the screen grab. They just look a bit to meaty to be A1 barrels.

 

[Echo4890]

I think there is a little bit of a chamfer from the pencil profile to go up to the birdcage, but I can't tell from the quality of the pictures.

 

[BrianM]

OK, thanks for your help guys. Here is my attempt. May still need some dull spray. Had to make a bunch of mod's to get the carbine butt-stock on the long version of the airsoft. I hope it's in more than one scene in the show...

 

[Kokanee]

Good progress! I would remove the trigger guard though as it's missing in the screen grabs. Which makes sense, a gloved hand (bulky gloves) can be challenging to operate this rifle with the guard present.

 

[BrianM]

Good progress! I would remove the trigger guard though as it's missing in the screen grabs. Which makes sense, a gloved hand (bulky gloves) can be challenging to operate this rifle with the guard present.

Hey, I did not even notice that!

 

[lmgill]

Here is a nice clip from season 2 of the M-16's as well as Global Effects' EMU spacesuits and LM interior.

 

[joberg]

OK, thanks for your help guys. Here is my attempt. May still need some dull spray. Had to make a bunch of mod's to get the carbine butt-stock on the long version of the airsoft. I hope it's in more than one scene in the show...

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Love the Matt Mason poster Had a whole collection during my childhood!

 

[Trebor]

A bullet does not travel fast enough to "melt". This is a myth. Take a look at high speed photography of rounds fired into targets, the bullet is not "melted". Deformation only comes from impacting another object.
There is gravity on the moon, but no air. So virtually no resistance to the bullet's speed. Because of gravity on the moon, if the round was fired parallel to the surface, in theory, the round could circle the moon, and hit you in the back. (Highly unlikely though)

Those are my suits and if I remember, for the shot above, they where using some type of "air-soft" replica firearm. I'll ask the propmaster when we start back up.

Necro thread I know.

Are those your suits from "From the Earth to the Moon" or did you build up new ones? Just curious.

Also, thinking of building up a live fire replica. Seems pretty straightforward