Lucasfilm to Strike Back March 7th - Lucasfilm vs Andrew Ainsworth

[firebladejedi]

I dont know why he has a fb page - it must be a full time job to moderate that on its own..

Next he will claim to have invented the internet....

 

[Brian Muir]

Just noticed this thread :unsure

I have been open and honest and given all the details of my involvement in the production.

Now my name is being brought into disrepute because one person who has his own agenda is now sowing the seed of doubt - Gino

I testified under oath which I take very seriously unlike Ainsworth who continues to spread more lies. Just for the record I did NOT say in court that I did not know how the mould were made - I said that the moulds he showed me in court were not originals and the pieces of armour were not original as the form was distorted etc.

There are some very underhanded accusations that are only meant to spread his poison. I am known to be a member on this board and answer any questions that are posed to me.

Who does Gino think was there to help me on the stormtrooper armour and Vader hard pieces? Liz Moore was the only other sculptor on the film who left at the end of January 1976. Arthur Healey was employed for just 2 weeks to sculpt CZ3's chestplate. Does he think that I was incapable of sculpting the pieces on my own? What exactly is his point? Is he sowing the seeds of doubt for the greater good of the fandom ????

I know Gino's answer will be that my word should not be taken as fact but it should be questioned - well the only reason I came forward to get embroiled in all this was that Ainsworth was taking credit for my work. Now it has been restored to me by a court of law the usual suspect is trying to cast doubt :unsure

GINO - Let's not beat about the bush - are you calling me a liar?

Doesn't this constitute baiting/trollling?

 

[Supa troop]

Just for the record I did NOT say in court that I did not know how the mould were made - I said that the moulds he showed me in court were not originals and the pieces of armour were not original as the form was distorted etc.

Hi Brian thanks for clearing that up,

Ive asked AA if he is willing to come and meet the fans and take part in a Q&A, we are putting together the UKs first RPF prop Event later this year.

The question and formal invite has been put to him but as yet no reply, it would be great if you were there too. The Q&A would be done properly. courtesy and professionalism would be paramount throughout.

 

[geordietrooper]

brian it's probably just jealousy you have the skills certain people here don't & may never have

 

[Brian Muir]

Hi Brian thanks for clearing that up,

Ive asked AA if he is willing to come and meet the fans and take part in a Q&A, we are putting together the UKs first RPF prop Event later this year.

The question and formal invite has been put to him but as yet no reply, it would be great if you were there too. The Q&A would be done properly. courtesy and professionalism would be paramount throughout.

It's difficult enough to see the lies he continues to spread without being in his company :thumbsdown

Will you be at Memorabilia 26th/27th March NEC Birmingham - we could have a chat about it there?

 

[Supa troop]

It's difficult enough to see the lies he continues to spread without being in his company :thumbsdown

Will you be at Memorabilia 26th/27th March NEC Birmingham - we could have a chat about it there?

Hi Brian

yes i will be there with the Family on Sunday, il have a little boy with me dressed as all things a Stormtrooper :confused

if your not too busy id love to have 10 minutes of your time

 

[Brian Muir]

brian it's probably just jealousy you have the skills certain people here don't & may never have

Seems to be a case of 'wannabe'.

Really with the ridiculous suggestions he's coming out with now I could produce a video of me doing all the sculpting and he would still say that it could have been edited and someone else helped me :wacko There's video evidence of me sculpting with Vader on the shelf and a photo of me carving C3P0.

I did it - he didn't - he needs to get over it!! He seemed to believe me when we were on civil terms and he wanted information. Let's face it you believe what you want to believe but he just doesn't seem to be able to stomach the fact I did it all on my ownsome at 23.

At 21 I had done work for the Houses of Parliament, Crown Court, Stock Exchange and other very prominent work in London. If he could bring himself to look at my website he would see the work I did before Star Wars. So I was perfectly capable of doing Vader and the Stormtrooper armour by myself and at speed!

Little tiresome feeling I have to justify myself but as this is a public forum it has to be done. Unfortunately if Gino is allowed to spread his poison with no retaliation it becomes a new truth.

 

[Brian Muir]

Hi Brian

yes i will be there with the Family on Sunday, il have a little boy with me dressed as all things a Stormtrooper :confused

if your not too busy id love to have 10 minutes of your time

Great look forward to meeting you - Memorabilia is always such a friendly atmosphere - I'll look out for a little Stormie

 

[Brian Muir]

here is another FB comment added by non other than your truly

SUPA TROOP (aka simon)

Hi Andrew, as you know i have organised a few Movie Prop Related events in the past. This September i am due to organise another... Im sure by now you must be fed up of the whole situation, however i would like to invite you along to maybe take part in a Q&A type situation, Brian Muir who is also on the Convention circuit has also expressed an interest to pop along. You have my personal assurance that the Q&A would be conducted in a Controlled, proffesional and diplomatic manner.
im sure the fans would love to see this happen and to also hear both views on the Subject ..........


il let you know what the outcome is ..............

Did I? I know that many want to be sure of the truth. Well you will never get it from Ainsworth - he does not know the meaning of truth. I would hate to think that he would even think that I had even contemplated being in a Q and A session with him.
Even sskunky, who has ties with Ainsworth, stated that he takes what Ainsworth says with a pinch of salt. When I asked him to qualify whether that meant that he thinks he's a liar he declined to reply.

 

[Brian Muir]

For me it comes down to motivation and character.

What motivation does AA have to gain by perpetuating the lie:

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What motivation does Brian really have to gain personally? Nothing he's ever said, done, or posted allowed me to think it's about credit for him. He's got an impressive imdb page, a professional resume, and plenty of our favorite films for that. Since it ain't money, and it ain't glory, I can only assume it's exactly what it looks like - his character - and that he's not going to stand by and do nothing when words like this are so easily posted online:

Add this to the fact a well respected member of the spfx community, an original member of the Star Wars production team (and yes, to me, that is cool), willingly chooses to come here and participate in our community, well, seems like one of the good guys to me.

It's incredible to see Ainsworth's replies. Of course he hadn't heard of me before because he wasn't on the production. He was in a little workshop at Shepperton while the production was going on at Elstree. If he'd have known about me and Liz he would have made up a different set of lies. It was only me coming to light and giving my evidence that changed it all. He insinuates that I was USED - no I just told the truth. It was only his web of lies that brought me to court
His whole business accumen is built on lies and he'll say anything to make money. I received no financial gain or kudos from giving evidence - actually only aggravation - I would have preferred not to know of his existence. It has made not one iota of difference to my film career - I am still working on my own merit - I've never mentioned my work on Star Wars to get myself a job!

 

[wolf]

Andrew Ainsworth may be able to convince a lot of guys that he sculpted the Stormtrooper helmet and armour etc etc, I am confident the helmet by was Liz Moore, the armour by Brian Muir. The "discussions" on FB will lead nowhere.
It is also a pity that what little facts we have from Brian are now being treated with caution by some because we simply cannot expect Brian to be honest, whether consciously , just forgetting the truth somehow or he has something to gain from lieing. I know there will be some bits lost in time but I suspect Brian remembers making these iconic sculptures fairly well.
It must be pretty horrible for you at this time Brian, having to read all this sh.t.

 

[Supa troop]

Andrew Ainsworth may be able to convince a lot of guys that he sculpted the Stormtrooper helmet and armour etc etc, I am confident the helmet by was Liz Moore, the armour by Brian Muir. The "discussions" on FB will lead nowhere.
It is also a pity that what little facts we have from Brian are now being treated with caution by some because we simply cannot expect Brian to be honest, whether consciously , just forgetting the truth somehow or he has something to gain from lieing. I know there will be some bits lost in time but I suspect Brian remembers making these iconic sculptures fairly well.
It must be pretty horrible for you at this time Brian, having to read all this sh.t.

Agreed, but what are we to do say nothing about AAs comments and let him continue to advertise himself as the Original Maker of this iconic character.

As upsetting as it may be for Brian to read these comments what other support does he have other than from the fans who know the truth and support Brian and Liz for that matter and continue to campaign against AA and his claims.

Its OK for the prop collecting community as we have read both versions of events, but what about those poor unsuspecting members of the general world wide public who unknowing to them are spending their hard earned pennies on what they think is an Original Item puely based on the tales of a guy who claims to be the original maker.

No disrespect to Brian Here but outside the Movie making and prop Making world he relativly un-known, AA has media to advertise his company and therefore sell his crap.......

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

And you believe that outside of Star Wars collectors (Not even fans) anyone has heard of Ainsworth? People are doing what needs to be done about Ainsworth. They are getting the word out there. Hell, your tune has changed since hearing the truth. That is a big deal. This is how you combat that kind of...well...thievery.

 

[Supa troop]

ive sat on the fence partially because and il be honest i didnt understand fully all the arguments, however having done a lot of reading of respected and more knowledgeable people here than me then yes i now know which side of the fence i want to be on ...... is that wrong, honestly is it, i dont know.

by reading comments here and on FB ive seen the contridictions with my own eyes and if i can pass on what ive found out to another person then im happy to do that.

ive seen AA adverts plastered all over UK based magazines anything from Health to collecting magazines, he is in the buisness to make money obviously by any means necessary

 

[wolf]

When AA started making the costumes I believed he was the guy who originally made them, if I had the money I would have bought a suit then. I know a lot more now as do many folks who bought/buy his stuff. We can only tell a different side to the story to the AA believers .
If we are concerned about saving people from wasting their hard earned money on a bad , inaccurate Stormtrooper costume from a thieving liar [WHO DIDNT SCULPT THE ORIGINAL]then this tactic is not working. The FB folks who have bought this stuff seem very, very happy with the kit, I don't see too many people complaining about the kit.We actually don't know if sales would be affected if AA came out and admitted his actual involvement way back when.

 

[defstartrooper]

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[Supa troop]

Simon that's just hilarious i'm sorry but it really is sidesplitting to use AA's name and courtesy and professionalism is the same statement. :lol

lol:lol well i couldnt very well tell him that he could possibly be strung up from nearest lamp-post could i :lol

 

[Patterson]

My first post...

I've followed this series of cases and the litigation over the years. It's a case study of IP issues and how things have evolved in the creative community since the 1970's...

The issues on LFL's side are twofold; protect George's personal property now and into the furure and protect the personal creative efforts of the people who have, do, and will work for him. It's right and it's fair. Why should somebody be able to take food off of my table? What does my personal net worth have to do with that question?

I've worked with LFL and have what I think is an informed perspective.

Regards,

-P

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

Here is what I am going to add on Brian and his contributions, not only to Star Wars, but to here. He is WILLING to put himself to our questions and answer them to the best of his knowledge. Others have "sources", but those "sources" will never come forward, so it is hard to accept their word, second hand. That goes a long way in regards to integrity.

 

[Patterson]

Here is what I am going to add on Brian and his contributions, not only to Star Wars, but to here. He is WILLING to put himself to our questions and answer them to the best of his knowledge. Others have "sources", but those "sources" will never come forward, so it is hard to accept their word, second hand. That goes a long way in regards to integrity.

Every piece of information I've read supports that assessment...