Just saw AVATAR, first time, what the?

I thought Avatar was great. I mean, the whole thought of James Cameron being stuck in a wheelchair and pretending to be a big black Rastafarian out to destroy all the other avatars while Bruce Willis ran around getting beat up by big fat guys... genius.


... no?
 
Have mercy!!!!

I really enjoyed it. So it's another sci-action movie, so what? it's not that bad , and they created such a beautiful world that I'll forgive them all the rest. I've seen worse movies that got better comments, have mercy!
 
But I thought it was interesting to note that certain titles are looked at with rose tinted glasses, even though they are entirely flawed in the same way.

You can't criticise holy cows! Shame on you, you holy-cow-critic! HEY EVERYONE! HERETIC OVER HERE!!!!!!!!! :lol

They used Papyrus as the font for everything.

:lol:lol That was the single most baffling decision on the whole film. Stood out like dog's balls, didn't it? Enough to yank you out of the film.

Avatar ("Avaretard", as I like to call it) is actually ripped off a french comics series, Aquablue...

OMIGAWD, and he used ROGER DEAN imagery too! Who knew?! Next you'll be citing Pocahontas, Dances with Wolves and Fern Gully! I'm just gonna put my fingers in my ears and go 'na na na na na na na na'. :p

Apart from some cool fighting and flying scenes it's not a 'cool' 'boys' movie, but honestly, if you really hate it you have no heart...

This. It is big and dumb and not very original, but it very earnestly wants to please you. Pretty much the same as my dog. Anyone who could hate my dog has no heart. :lol

But Avatar gets special hate because it was touted as being some kind of giant breakthrough. Some great leap for mankind was implied with words like 'gamechanging.'

While this is true, the effect it had on me was to make me hate it in advance. I was the arch-antiAvatard. My expectations could NOT have been any lower.

Saw the film and liked it. So, there you go. I guess perhaps at least a part of it comes down to how you react to common marketing stratagems. For me, 'suspicion and intolerance' works well.

6 weeks ago, i watched it with the Mrs. in 3d on our big telly with oomphing sound...and i really enjoyed it!

It's a film that rewards suspension of cynicism, which is ironic, because it requires letting go of one's disdain for the undoubted cynicism of the thing's creator - who himself let go huge swathes of more intelligent worldbuilding in favour of dumb lines and spectacle. (It's a bit sad that the box office results prove he was right to do so.)

Fortunately for audiences there's still enough to like and care about, buoyed by glorious enough spectacle, that it DOES work, overall. You can see Cameron's flaws as a human being, you can see AVATAR's flaws as a film, and you can still enjoy it. I don't even feel guilty about it. :lol
 
This. It is big and dumb and not very original, but it very earnestly wants to please you. Pretty much the same as my dog. Anyone who could hate my dog has no heart. :lol

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^^ Hates your dog. But really wishes he didn't. Here's hoping the Wizard can help him with all that...




While this is true, the effect it had on me was to make me hate it in advance. I was the arch-antiAvatard. My expectations could NOT have been any lower.

That's not far from where I am. I expect to ho-hum it. Or possibly to enjoy it in a "Well, that was decent action" and then never watch it again except perhaps to demo my 3D setup (when I get one). Much like I did with Attack of the Clones when I'd use the Geonosis battle to demo my surround sound system for folks.
 
OMIGAWD, and he used ROGER DEAN imagery too! Who knew?! Next you'll be citing Pocahontas, Dances with Wolves and Fern Gully! I'm just gonna put my fingers in my ears and go 'na na na na na na na na'. :p

OK, since you can still use your eyes... Try this !

:love

:lol

Fred

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Add me to the "Never seeing Avatar" list.

I've seen enough of it in clips and ads to know it's another Cameron egofest.
He will never get another dollar from me. I'm sure he's upset about it too LOL

oh and one word......."unobtainium"


really Jim thats the best you could do?
 
Jeez talk about egotistical. Can you honestly have a valid opinion without even seeing the film??

As I said I've seen enough for me to have that opinion.
If you think different..cool glad you feel it was worth it. For me it's not.

I don't need to drive a Yugo to know it's a crap car.
 
oh and one word......."unobtainium"


really Jim thats the best you could do?

Unobtanium
Since the late 1950s, aerospace engineers have used the term "unobtainium" when referring to unusual or costly materials, or when theoretically considering a material perfect for their needs in all respects, except that it does not exist. By the 1990s, the term was in wide use, even in formal engineering papers such as "Towards unobtainium [new composite materials for space applications]." The word unobtainium may well have been coined in the aerospace industry to refer to materials capable of withstanding the extreme temperatures expected in reentry Aerospace engineers are frequently tempted to design aircraft which require parts with strength or resilience beyond that of currently available materials.

Later, unobtainium became an engineering term for practical materials that really exist, but are difficult to get. For example, during the development of the SR-71 Blackbird spy plane, Lockheed engineers at the Skunk Works" under Clarence "Kelly" Johnson used unobtainium as a dysphemism for titanium. Titanium allowed a higher strength-to-weight ratio at the high temperatures the Blackbird would reach, but the Soviet Union controlled its supply and was trying to deprive the US armed forces of this valuable resource.[ Eventually, through a European front company, a large quantity of titanium found its way to the United States.

In the 1970's, bicycle magazines, such as Bike World, sometimes referred to exotic lightweight bicycle parts as being made of unobtanium, although they were commercially obtainable but expensive.
 
Unobtanium
Since the late 1950s, aerospace engineers have used the term "unobtainium" when referring to unusual or costly materials, or when theoretically considering a material perfect for their needs in all respects, except that it does not exist. By the 1990s, the term was in wide use, even in formal engineering papers such as "Towards unobtainium [new composite materials for space applications]." The word unobtainium may well have been coined in the aerospace industry to refer to materials capable of withstanding the extreme temperatures expected in reentry Aerospace engineers are frequently tempted to design aircraft which require parts with strength or resilience beyond that of currently available materials.

Later, unobtainium became an engineering term for practical materials that really exist, but are difficult to get. For example, during the development of the SR-71 Blackbird spy plane, Lockheed engineers at the Skunk Works" under Clarence "Kelly" Johnson used unobtainium as a dysphemism for titanium. Titanium allowed a higher strength-to-weight ratio at the high temperatures the Blackbird would reach, but the Soviet Union controlled its supply and was trying to deprive the US armed forces of this valuable resource.[ Eventually, through a European front company, a large quantity of titanium found its way to the United States.

In the 1970's, bicycle magazines, such as Bike World, sometimes referred to exotic lightweight bicycle parts as being made of unobtanium, although they were commercially obtainable but expensive.

:cheers:cheers:cheers Thanks you for that! Too many nay-sayers around here......

Rich
 
I place Avatar firmly into the category of "movies i can throw into the dvd player and listen to while i paint" which isn't really a bad thing in my book. But you know what Avatar needed to be a truly epic film? a zany a$$ bat played by Robin Williams and an ancient demon made of black goo that feeds on toxic fumes...and a portable cassette player....coz portable cassette players are cool....
 
I had to see the movie before I could have an opinion, I'm a stickler for things like that.
After falling asleep 4 times trying to watch it, which to this point only the cinematic equivalent to Ambien - Romasanta: The Werewolf Hunt was able to do, I made it through it.

I think it looks terrible. The whole thing is so firmly lodged in a creepy Cool World "Implied Sexuality" wrapped in The Uncanny Valley, stuffed in Corny Writing to the point where it might be the perfect Big Hollywood Turd-ducken.

They used Papyrus as the font for everything. It's like looking at a flyer for Taco Day at the Office in 1991. (Which funnily enough, I think was Cameron's last quality work)

Laffo.

'It looks terrible'. 'Corny writing.' Sure seems this way to me from trailers and clips. But do I still really have to go and see the whole darn thing before I can actually cocnclude it looks terrible and has corny writing? If a film's any use to me it'll pull me on trailers and clips.
 
I'm just glad in the future that we still think that money is made of paper. Cripes, even Fringe got it wrong.
 
You have to admit that the movie is visually stunning in IMAX 3D @ $20 a ticket! I have refused to watch it again since it would destroy my awesome memory of that movie!
 
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