Jurassic Park: Stan Winston 1:1 Raptor

[Bigturc]

Let's say that you wanted to make a prop that requires multiples of an item - for example a Han in carbonite. It requires 8 volvo panels to complete it properly, so according to the logic of some of you here, I should just buy ONE panel from someone like @Bigturc and make myself a mold to cast the other 7 rather than purchase all 8 from him?

Well now I'm getting famous! For my own offense, I did recast a Volvo panel and never asked Volvo about it! Well, when someone wants 1 copy of my panel, I just sell it at a little higher price then buying 8 .. and seriously, if anybody wants to take over the Volvo panel business, PELLLLEEEEAAASE go ahead .. they're such a pain to cast right .. I'd be more than happy to not have to do them anymore Plus they cost tons of dollar in time to do the mold and in rubber material.

OP, before thinking about molding this, don't ask yourself if you're a recaster, ask yourself if you really want to invest time and money in molds that could NOT be used for someone else's then you. TRUST ME, you'll end up SAVING money by buying a 2nd cast from the original maker ...

 

[Rylo]

Let's face it, people do that. I'm not condoning it, but it happens. Most stop there though.

What would be frowned upon by the community and more widely regarded as recasting would be to take one of Bigturc's pulls, replicate it and start selling them. The simple reason for doing so...it's easier than tracking down a clean original right? I mean he's already done the work! That's an example of recasting an otherwise found object.

If someone wants to sell panels, that's all well and fine, but in this scenario, they would need to cast their own master from an original that they tracked down.

The simple rule here. Honor among thieves.

Let's say that you wanted to make a prop that requires multiples of an item - for example a Han in carbonite. It requires 8 volvo panels to complete it properly, so according to the logic of some of you here, I should just buy ONE panel from someone like @Bigturc and make myself a mold to cast the other 7 rather than purchase all 8 from him?

 

[ARKM]

The OP has already stated that he will never sell them in his second post in this thread (which is the fourth post in this thread). If a person continues to infer otherwise, that means that this person is calling the OP a liar. Is there any particular reason to automatically assume the OP is a liar?

 

[The Portugeek]

Lets face it.... you see people selling their "prized possessions" in the JY all the time. So you recast this head to make 2 more for yourself.... down the road whether it be 1 year or 5 years are these going to be put in a garbage bag and tossed to the curb when theres no room for them anymore? Nope! They will get sold, so the I'm making them for myself wont work unless you are planning on putting it in your will to bury them right next

 

[ARKM]

That's an awful strong and negative assumption. You may be right, you may be wrong. Only time will tell. However to automatically just up and assume the worst of this guy seems a bit harsh and" witch huntish" to me. If he's a good person, when the time comes, the raptors will be thrown in the trash.

 

[Moongazer]

Discussing re-casting aside, that's wicked that you managed to snag a raptor head. Was it up on ebay or was it through connections that you managed to buy it?

 

[Turdbol]

Well - I had no idea that this conversation would turn out this way. I just wanted to share my raptor..... I will certainly not share it when it's complete though.

 

[dbalschi]

Well - I had no idea that this conversation would turn out this way. I just wanted to share my raptor..... I will certainly not share it when it's complete though.

I'm pretty sure nobody had a problem with you casting one to preserve the original, the problem I see was when you said you were going to cast two. If you wanted two, you should have bought two.

 

[Turdbol]

I'm pretty sure nobody had a problem with you casting one to preserve the original, the problem I see was when you said you were going to cast two. If you wanted two, you should have bought two.

So let me get this straight, if I want to take the time to make a mold to preserve the original, I am only allowed to cast one? So making a mold is fine.....making a copy is fine.....as long as it's only one. And let me also point out, that there was only one for sale.

 

[Moviefreak]

Looks like this was by Howard S Studios (Chewie15!) on eBay
http://m.ebay.com/itm/261935683312?nav=SEARCH

Isn't he a member here?

 

[Turdbol]

Looks like this was by Howard S Studios (Chewie15!) on eBay
http://m.ebay.com/itm/261935683312?nav=SEARCH

Isn't he a member here?

That's exactly the one!

 

[CynicalMormon]

Ugh... so much drama. Turdbol, it's your property do what you want... sorry it turned out like this. Good luck with whatever you decide to do and PM me if you get some pics.

 

[OzJames]

Without getting involved in the recasting debate I just wanted to say that the head looks awesome. I dont blame you for snapping it up straight away, I know I would if I had the spare cash

 

[JD]

I'm pretty sure nobody had a problem with you casting one to preserve the original, the problem I see was when you said you were going to cast two. If you wanted two, you should have bought two.

This.

End of story.

The Community Guidelines of this forum are clear: "Deliberately recasting another member’s creation without consent is not supported by our communities.
Deliberately recasting an active licensee’s product is not supported by our communities."

 

[azuretek]

This.

End of story.

The Community Guidelines of this forum are clear: "Deliberately recasting another member’s creation without consent is not supported by our communities.
Deliberately recasting an active licensee’s product is not supported by our communities."

So why is he allowed to make one copy but not two? The rule says no recasting at all... I just want to be sure I understand.

 

[dbalschi]

So why is he allowed to make one copy but not two? The rule says no recasting at all... I just want to be sure I understand.

Technically I don't really think he should even make one but I was giving the OP the benefit of the doubt.

 

[JD]

So why is he allowed to make one copy but not two? The rule says no recasting at all... I just want to be sure I understand.

I didn't say he should make any.

 

[azuretek]

I didn't say he should make any.

When you said "this" it seemed like you were agreeing with the quote, which indicated it was ok to make one copy but not two, that's why I was confused.

Anyway, I hope to see the raptor painted.

 

[JD]

When you said "this" it seemed like you were agreeing with the quote, which indicated it was ok to make one copy but not two, that's why I was confused.

Anyway, I hope to see the raptor painted.

I apologize, my intent was to agree that if he wanted two - he should've bought two.

If you're going to do something like this, just keep your mouth shut about it and don't post about it on a board. I'm not endorsing that or implying that this might make it right.

 

[Moviefreak]

My concern does lie in the future. So he makes a mold.... Will it be destroyed immediately or tossed into a closet somewhere? Sooner or later, either he will pass it on or someone will happen upon the mold and it will find new life. Not saying the OP will do this, but by making that mold, it is in his hands to know exactly where it lands one day. I am betting he won't have it in him to destroy the mold since the material for the mold will cost him a lot, so he will sit on it. Then one day he will be gone, but that mold will be discovered and most likely used.