Indiana Jones may meet his end in next film?
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I certainly think CS had its problems, but I have seen a few movies with LaBouf and he isn't so bad when he isn't talking jive, daddy-o.
I think THAT is what did it. It was hard to relate, hard to like him, hard to do anything but count the seconds until the next scene hit. Don't get me started on the swinging with monkeys gag.
If we fast forward 5-8 years in the story and he actually is himself, and can make himself an interesting counterpart, than one last adventure to pull dad out of retirement could be appealling.
They need to take their time with the script, and pass it around a bunch. Finally, I don't think the public would stand for an Indy death.
P.S. Mark my words. THERE WILL BE A SEQUEL WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
It takes a little knowledge into Speilberg's psychology. I remember reading the man HATES criticsm and everytime a movie of his failed to garner support, he translates it into a comeback. I have read similar stories about how upset he was about Temple of Doom, which in its time, was not exactly loved. He made it its mission to make the Last Crusade awesome and he succeeded.
I think THAT is what did it. It was hard to relate, hard to like him, hard to do anything but count the seconds until the next scene hit. Don't get me started on the swinging with monkeys gag.
If we fast forward 5-8 years in the story and he actually is himself, and can make himself an interesting counterpart, than one last adventure to pull dad out of retirement could be appealling.
They need to take their time with the script, and pass it around a bunch. Finally, I don't think the public would stand for an Indy death.
P.S. Mark my words. THERE WILL BE A SEQUEL WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
It takes a little knowledge into Speilberg's psychology. I remember reading the man HATES criticsm and everytime a movie of his failed to garner support, he translates it into a comeback. I have read similar stories about how upset he was about Temple of Doom, which in its time, was not exactly loved. He made it its mission to make the Last Crusade awesome and he succeeded.
Solo4114
Master Member
Right, I get the whole "Why? Because there's money to be made" part. From the producers/directors/actors' views, it makes perfect sense to keep putting out product until people stop paying for it.
But from the fan's perspective, my point is that more doesn't necessarily equal better. Need I mention Highlander 3? Alien3? Spiderman 3? The Matrix sequels? ST: Insurrection and Nemesis? Hell, some would even say Ghostbusters 2. And that's not even addressing any additional Lucas products. Sure, some sequels are great, sometimes even better than the original films that launched them (although, rarely). But I tend to find that most sequels are somewhat weaker than the original, UNLESS the entire story was planned as a whole (IE: a true trilogy, not a "make it up as we go" trilogy).
Ultimately, I'm saying in response to "Well, how else can we get new fans without putting out new product that's hip and with it for the kids?" that the real question is "Well, how else can we get MORE MONEY?" And that's not anything I personally give a crap about as a fan. I care about quality entertainment, not lining the producers' pockets. Far too often, sequels are greenlit not because there's more story to tell but because there's more money to be made, and while yes, it's a business, and yes, sometimes it works out that everyone wins by getting a GOOD sequel, I'm of the mindset now that LESS is usually better than more.
Ask yourself this: what would a sequel to Inception POSSIBLY add?
But from the fan's perspective, my point is that more doesn't necessarily equal better. Need I mention Highlander 3? Alien3? Spiderman 3? The Matrix sequels? ST: Insurrection and Nemesis? Hell, some would even say Ghostbusters 2. And that's not even addressing any additional Lucas products. Sure, some sequels are great, sometimes even better than the original films that launched them (although, rarely). But I tend to find that most sequels are somewhat weaker than the original, UNLESS the entire story was planned as a whole (IE: a true trilogy, not a "make it up as we go" trilogy).
Ultimately, I'm saying in response to "Well, how else can we get new fans without putting out new product that's hip and with it for the kids?" that the real question is "Well, how else can we get MORE MONEY?" And that's not anything I personally give a crap about as a fan. I care about quality entertainment, not lining the producers' pockets. Far too often, sequels are greenlit not because there's more story to tell but because there's more money to be made, and while yes, it's a business, and yes, sometimes it works out that everyone wins by getting a GOOD sequel, I'm of the mindset now that LESS is usually better than more.
Ask yourself this: what would a sequel to Inception POSSIBLY add?
morrris99
Well-Known Member
Well, you could go inside of someone's dream while they were dreaming, while going inside that dream, while going inside that dream, while going inside that dream, while going inside that dream, while at the same time going inside that dream. I mean, no one's ever done THAT.
I did not like the Father/son angle in the last movie. I would have much rather seen Indy meet his long lost brother played by none other than.....Tom Selleck 
Would have been a relationship you don't see very often in a movie instead of the normal Father/son routine and also had Tom Selleck play Indy's brother since he was unable to portray Indy in the first place.
Would have been a relationship you don't see very often in a movie instead of the normal Father/son routine and also had Tom Selleck play Indy's brother since he was unable to portray Indy in the first place.
rickrickrick
Sr Member
Well, the whole father/son thing is Lucas' obsession.
Can you say Anakin/Luke?
Can you say Anakin/Luke?
AND Spielberg. Remember Hook, War of the Worlds, Last Crusade, Lost World (WHOA! A daughter?!), Catch me if you can? These two guys are dangerous to the female members of the family.
Organic Mechanic
Sr Member
So will I. And THAT is why I wish they wouldn't make it. It's Indiana Jones (or whatever other iconic film they end up choosing to crap out a sequel to), so I can't HELP but to watch it. But if they aren't going to put AT LEAST as much effort into making it a good movie as they did with the originals, I wished they'd just make NEW crap that didn't damage the legacy of great films.
I understand they want to make money, and to do that they need to sell to our kids, but can't they come up with something NEW to do that?
Solo4114
Master Member
That we know of. It's important to bear that in mind. Far too often you end up thinking that actors can't act when the real problem is that their agents can't get them decent parts. I mean, say what you will, but there's only so much you can do with a role in Transformers.
I mean, if all you ever saw of their work was Wild Wild West, you'd think that Kenneth Branagh, Kevin Kline, Will Smith, and Salma Hayek all were HORRIBLE actors, and nothing could be further from the truth. If Shia gets some decent roles and good direction, he MIGHT surprise us. Maybe. Of course, he could just be as bad has he seems, but if he ended up surprising me, it wouldn't be the first time that an actor I'd written off as "abject crap" turned out to be more impressive than I thought.
I mean, if all you ever saw of their work was Wild Wild West, you'd think that Kenneth Branagh, Kevin Kline, Will Smith, and Salma Hayek all were HORRIBLE actors, and nothing could be further from the truth. If Shia gets some decent roles and good direction, he MIGHT surprise us. Maybe. Of course, he could just be as bad has he seems, but if he ended up surprising me, it wouldn't be the first time that an actor I'd written off as "abject crap" turned out to be more impressive than I thought.
Mola Rob
Sr Member
Strangely enough I didn't mind him in KOTCS either. I liked the scenes with him and Ford. I thought the rest of the movie was complete crap unfortunately.
Qui-Gonzalez
Master Member
There was a fourth movie. It was not totally horrid. Suck it, haters!
Where in the hell is Mic for a thread like this, dammit?!
Where in the hell is Mic for a thread like this, dammit?!
Organic Mechanic
Sr Member
Myself, I don't hate KOTCS, but it certainly wasn't as good as the first three films. What I do hate is the concept of the franchise carrying on without Indiana Jones.
(I'm a Prequel lover too. I'll be only be miffed when they make Star Wars w/o Skywalkers.)
Organic Mechanic
Sr Member
They did already. It's called the X-wing novels.
P.S. Han Solo, Lando Calrissian, Chewbacca, and Wedge were in Star Wars, too, you know.
For me, SW is films, so let 'em write what they like in the books.
And yeah, all films have supporting cast, and...wait...Wedge? :lol
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