Indiana Jones may meet his end in next film?

[bleyd]

Just a quick note. We DO get to see a very old Indy in the TV series. He's old and grey and wears a patch over one eye.

 

[Egon Spengler]

There are 3 Indiana Jones films.

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

I'm glad Lucas isn't' in charge of American history or George Washington would have had a missile launcher or something. I think if Shia lasucks were to take over there would be be a backlash of old fans. It wouldn't surprise me if they'd at least talked about getting rid of Indy. I remember seeing the old Indy stuff on Chronicles and thought that was a good way to have him end up.

Don't you watch TV? George Washington drove a Dodge Challenger, he didn't carry a missile launcher. Sheesh. :lol


I actually thought the idea that Indy would have a daughter would be a lot better. He wouldn't really know how to react to her. It would have been 100 times better than watching Shia swing around with monkeys.

 

[Tony]

Many of us consider him dead after the last one.

Rimshot! LOL

 

[Wes R]

Don't you watch TV? George Washington drove a Dodge Challenger, he didn't carry a missile launcher. Sheesh. :lol


I actually thought the idea that Indy would have a daughter would be a lot better. He wouldn't really know how to react to her. It would have been 100 times better than watching Shia swing around with monkeys.

I think Shia is a monkey someone shaved and gave a stupid name to. Michael bay already has him trained lol. It would have been nice to see a female adventurer take over where Indy leaves off because basically you have Tombraider and that one show Tia Carrera had in the mid 90s that was basically a Tombraider knockoff.

 

[CTF]

I would like to see one more with an ending for Indy, worthy of the first film.

We got that: Indy riding off into the sunset in The Last Crusade.

Then again, why do we have to have an "ending" for characters we love? I mean, what's next, attending funerals for 'em?

 

[Wes R]

I'd be happy to just see Indy simply retire to teaching and become more like Henry Sr.

 

[CTF]

Maybe you could write some fan fiction?

Indy, now in his sixties, strokes the beard he's grown since his retirement; he picks up a pen, ready to grade the essays on his desk, when he notices an apple left by some student hoping for an extra mark. Indy, now hungry, takes a bite. "Mmm," he says, "That's a tasty apple!" He takes a few more bites, before turning an essay over to write the final mark. "Joe's getting a B+, 'cause that's all he deserves, really."

Then again, maybe not?

 

[Wes R]

Maybe you could write some fan fiction?



Then again, maybe not?

I could see him torturing his students like Sr was said to have done. At least now he's old enough the girls in class won't be after him anymore. Now their grandmothers will be :lol

 

[morrris99]

How about Indy retires because Shia gets harpooned, drug into Pirhanna infested waters around Atlantis, loses his legs and arms to the fish, and magically recovers and regrows all his limbs from the magic crystal of Atlantis. Then, Indy stands up, and says "F-you, George and Steven. I'm done with this sh**". But, Shia ends up with unending explosive diarrhea the rest of his life. I'd buy that for a dollar!

 

[ajiuo]

They should start the movie off by killing of Mud Williams

 

[CutThumb]

Its hard to watch your heroes grow old, they kind of get to look a bit worn out . Harrison did a creditable job with the character in the Crystal Skull (when 67 I reach, look as good I will not !!!) and there were bits in that movie that did stand out for me (The Atomic bomb, the hat shadow on the car ) but they were just brief whispers in comparison to the original film and trilogy. And the VERY bad bits just kill it dead ( the flying fridge, the tarzan /monkeys bit, the stupid fencing whilst caught between two cars). I actually fell asleep watching it the other night. The others still kept me mostly riveted ,and I've watched them dozens of times each . It doesn't say much for the Crystal Skull when I think that was just the third time I've seen it again.
Raiders always felt "realer" because there is so much less "unreal" in it by comparison. It was a kind of Jason Bourne of its day. Unfortunately the trilogy became more "James Bondish" as it went along as the stunts and stories tried to top themselves, though ironically Crusade was just about saved from that by Shaun Connery as Indies Dad.
I'd say a reboot is inevitable at some point but I hope to the Ark it isn't Shia. He's a decent kid but he ain't "The Man".
Personally I would go a different route. Given the number of romantic indiscressions old Indie has had there are bound to be a few more Juniour Jonies kicking around. Shia is not our last hope and remember "There is always another".

 

[Solo4114]

Or we could take Henry, Sr.'s advice and just "Let it go" and stop trying to recapture lightning in a bottle. Why did we need another film after #3?

 

[teecrooz]

I know a lot of people are not fans of the Crystal Skull (or the SW prequels for that matter), but what they are doing is getting a new generation of people interested. They don't need to win over the 30-50 year old people who watched the originals. They need new people to continue the series.

I'll be the first to admit that Crystal Skull was somewhat lacking, but it did fit in with the Indiana Jones style of movie (except for too much CGI and the stupid monkey swinging). It picked up a new story line that could help ensure the continuity of a story line without having to recast and do a reboot. I'm sure a reboot would go over even worse. Watch the special features on the bluray. Steven and George both explain their thought process. That part of the disk is actually very interesting.

 

[Solo4114]

I know a lot of people are not fans of the Crystal Skull (or the SW prequels for that matter), but what they are doing is getting a new generation of people interested. They don't need to win over the 30-50 year old people who watched the originals. They need new people to continue the series.

I'll be the first to admit that Crystal Skull was somewhat lacking, but it did fit in with the Indiana Jones style of movie (except for too much CGI and the stupid monkey swinging). It picked up a new story line that could help ensure the continuity of a story line without having to recast and do a reboot. I'm sure a reboot would go over even worse. Watch the special features on the bluray. Steven and George both explain their thought process. That part of the disk is actually very interesting.

Why do you even need a reboot, recast, or continuations at all? What's wrong with the old movies? Are they not good enough to entertain kids today? If so, then screw it. Do something else. Make a new franchise, but don't **** all over the old one by pumping out crap product.

 

[teecrooz]

No one is forcing you to watch the new ones. It doesn't mean that other people can't enjoy them. Making new movies in no way takes away from the originals.

 

[teecrooz]

Why make a sequel at all then? With this thinking you wouldn't have had Temple of Doom or Last Crusade.

 

[Solo4114]

No one is forcing you to watch the new ones. It doesn't mean that other people can't enjoy them. Making new movies in no way takes away from the originals.

No, no one's forcing me to watch them, which is why I don't. But my point is, you're arguing that the film series should be continued to attract a new crop of fans. That's a different argument entirely from "I want more stories about these character."

Why make a sequel at all then? With this thinking you wouldn't have had Temple of Doom or Last Crusade.

My point is that you do not need to make new films in order to attract new fans. New fans could, oh, I don't know, discover the old films and enjoy them for what they are. I know, novel concept, right? You don't' need a new film to get them to do that, either. If the Indy series had stopped at Raiders...honestly, I'd be perfectly fine with that. Raiders is such a good movie on its own that I don't particularly NEED the other two films even though I enjoy them.


See, here's the issue. There's this underlying assumption that more = better. It doesn't. More stories doesn't mean that each successive story will be better. If anything, more usually means worse. Sometimes it means better, sure, but it often means worse. Do you think that Temple and Crusade are as good as Raiders? I don't. Even though I enjoy them, I don't think they're up to the level of Raiders. "More" in that case, did not equal "better."

Likewise, "more fans" is not necessarily a good thing. It's not a bad thing, it's just...a thing. From the perspective of a fan...I honestly don't give a damn if there are more fans added every year. I especially don't give a damn if the means of adding those new fans is to crank out inferior product.

Now, if you happen to be a movie producer or the owner of the rights to the Indy franchise, hey, more IS better. More fans, more money, more merchandising opportunities, etc. But as a fan? More is not better.

 

[teecrooz]

The reality of it is that movies are usually made as business decisions. You need to continue to grow your fan base to make the money.

I completely agree that it's not always the best idea to continue the story just to continue it, but they have found that people were willing to go out and pay to see more of these. Of course they will make more if they can get everyone on board. It's not all about the money though. Check out the Crystal Skull special features and you'll see Harrison, Steven, and George all talk about it. There was demand for it and they all wanted to do it.

I also agree that nothing holds a flame to Raiders (although I did particularly enjoy Crusade).

Either way, it's a matter of opinion and is not our decision, right?

No point in arguing about it.

 

[MooCriket]

How about Indy retires because Shia gets harpooned, drug into Pirhanna infested waters around Atlantis, loses his legs and arms to the fish, and magically recovers and regrows all his limbs from the magic crystal of Atlantis. Then, Indy stands up, and says "F-you, George and Steven. I'm done with this sh**". But, Shia ends up with unending explosive diarrhea the rest of his life. I'd buy that for a dollar!

I'd pay to see that as welllol