"I present to you, the ballistic missile submarine, RED OCTOBER

Rhett J Martin

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Hey gang. I know we've been dropping subtle hints about this kit coming, and now I 've finally sat down and had the energy to post all the pics of her big Bashing, as well as give you some history of this unique model.

I've always loved this movie, and it's my favorite Clancey novel/film. Great cast, great acting, great story, and even better effects(ILM). For those of you who don't know, the movie effects were done rather cleverly. All of the large models hung from complicated wiring, and were, in short, marionetted through a smoke filled warehouse. This was also used in "Batteries not Included" and "Always." For some of the better "October" scenes, tall pillars of rock, etc were placed on the floor and the model was literally driven through. The largest model, was obviously, the October. Their were two or three of her, but the big one was 11 feet long and weighed around 350 lbs. Say it with me . . . "Big sonuva bitch."

No model company has ever actually tackeld the Red October, except for a repackaged Typhoon from Revell in '89. You could also get the Alpha, the Dallas/Marine Helicotper, and even F-14's and carrier kits were repackaged with the movie release in '89 (ah, what a year for film.). What really sucked was no one was in scale with any on else (big damn surprise). A simple Typhoon model simply won't cut it, as the "October" was longer and had many different configurations from a standard Typhoon.

We started with a Revell Germany typhoon, which is the same one from the repackage, cast a section of top deck, and started the build. First, I lopped of her nose and extended her hull to make her the proper "footage." Then, did some hard sanding to get her nose the right shape, the blocked, blocked, blocked. I also noticed, that although longer, she still had twenty missle tubes, so I subtracted one in the rear, and three nearest to the conning tower. Conveiantly, this matched the studios model perfect. Nice happy mistake. However . . .

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As I took a break, I was going over the photos, and caught that the back prop shafts were WAYYY different than a standard Typhoon. So I chucked up my dremel and got to work. I then matched the shape, and filled it in.
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After this was all set, I sanded her up, and started more filling, and sanding, and . . . ugh, scribing. While most Typhoons have brick patterns, the studios model is smooth, with very few scribe lines. Most of the detailing is done with paint. You can see the paint job she has in te film when the small SRV sub shines her lights on it. So I bondoed the rest of the body and let her sit over night. But what should she sit on? "Why not Thor's Twins?" This awesome suggestion came from my girlfreind, who upon our first date, picked this movie out to watch. Turns out, it's her favorite. So I grabbed an old base (Seaquest anyone?) from my parts box and some clay, and sculpted up a nice base for her.
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Then I went back to my usual building habits (Ghostbusters) and waited for some silcone and bondo to cure.

Here's the results so far, with the correct prop shafts, props, and lower tail. A few more things have to be done, but she should be ready to paint and test build by next week. Oh, and the real kicker is that Dragon has a Los Angelas class and Alpha class set in 1/400.
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As the week begins, I'll be giving the main body some more details and a once over, and casting her. Then it's off to finsih the front planes, the top tail, and the catapiller drive doors. I'm willing to bet, if anyon'es interested, we'll have castings ready in two weeks. The kits price hasn't been figured yet, but if I had to guess, I'd say between 60-90 bucks. Hope you guys likey.
 
Looks great. Have any pics of the Impeller vents?

Doh missed that last paragraph.... nevermind... hehehe
 
Very nice. That looks like the little one. Am I correct? The 11 footer was held along by large pylons on the port side.
 
This was at the Costa Mesa, CA Planet Hollywood, years ago before it closed. Guessing, I'd say it was close to 11 feet. It was BIG. What was the size of "the litle one"?
 
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Small note on the sub they used in the film. If you live near the Portland Oregon area there is a Museum called the OMSI which has the sub used in the movie. They give tours and talk about the movie and how they shot the seens on it. It is one of my favorite movies I watch all the time. The prop master who did the show is a good friend of mine and we've done a few shows together. He told me that Sean was great to work with and a real gentlemen. My two bits worth.

Nice model.

rick
 
Awesome. Well, it guess it is the 11 footer, which is what we're trying to interpret. Gald to see some of the details here and there. Loks like I gotta redo the missle launchers..

If you can get any other photos of her, we'd owe you one.

Thanks for the positive repsonse too.
 
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Small note on the sub they used in the film. If you live near the Portland Oregon area there is a Museum called the OMSI which has the sub used in the movie. They give tours and talk about the movie and how they shot the seens on it. It is one of my favorite movies I watch all the time. The prop master who did the show is a good friend of mine and we've done a few shows together. He told me that Sean was great to work with and a real gentlemen. My two bits worth.

Nice model.

rick
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Rick, if you have the chance, can you possibly check into the pics I posted? In other words, perhaps this is the same model that is now in Oregon?

When the Planet Hollywood stores began closing, they sold off, returned, or otherwise disbursed much of the collection, so I suppose it is possible.

On the other hand, Planet Hollywood was notorious for displaying copies (i.e. the TIE fighters and X-Wings). Though I'd find it hard to believe someone would reproduce a copy of an eleven-foot submarine model just for the restaraunt.
 
" You arrogant ass... You've killed US. "

I love that movie ( I was an Active Duty USN Sailor when it was released, Carriers, though... " The Russians don't take a crap without a plan, son. " )

And nice job... looking more and more ready to lie off our largest city and conduct missile drills.
 
I'll see if I can't grab you some DVD caps this weekend.

"Some things in here don't react well to bullets. Yeah, like me. I don't react well to bullets."


-Mike
 
Ok, here are 2.5 Mb of zipped caps. Most of these have been tweaked in some way to impove visibility.

http://rapidshare.com/files/16990998/Red_October.zip.html

These are only caps of the model — let me know if you want some of the full-size boat top.

Looks like the missile doors are glossy, unlike the rest of the hull. Also, the base of the sail appears to be a nearly straight 45 degree angle, unlike the domed base of the sail on a real Typhoon. The top of the deck also lacks the flat 'walk around' area at the base of the sail. There's some code on the side of the sail I can't make out. Clearly CCCP 436 are the last two lines, but the top's too small for me to read.

Good luck.


-Mike
 
Small update. Thanks to these great photos, I've completly redone the body and have started on the Hyrdo drive. The body's all smooth, and I've flattened the top. Tonight I'll add the hatch covers and various other details around the ship. It's just about ready for production.
 
Hotshot, what's the overall length of the stock model? I have a 1:350 kit and am curious how it compares to 1:400.
 
She's just over 18 inches long. I added about an inch and a half to the front. The sides are only marginally thicker.

Pics tommorow. The missle hatches are insanely hard...
 
I wish I had known about this sooner. I worked on the filming miniatures way back when at Boss Film. I have a alot of pics during construction. Would any of these help you at this point?



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Here is what I have found so far. Hope it helps.
One important fact to note. These pics were taken at Boss film before the show was pulled and sent to ILM (politics) The RO was repainted by the model shop up there but the models were all built by the crew at boss. By the way we had allready shot some 300 elements when they yanked it.


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Wow. Excellent pictures... This forum never ceases to amaze from the projects to the people who are here... very cool..
 
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