Honest Dragon Doctor Who Coat
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ratchetrex
Active Member
I have one of the coats personally I love it, only things that I noticed diffrent on it then on the show is: The tail isn't split and the buttons are a weird brownish color.
Hope that was of some help.
Rex
Hope that was of some help.
Rex
Thanks for the reply! How is the colour match to the real thing? The pictures on ebay make it look a little yellowish rather than a muddy brown, which I believe is what Tennants' is really like (from the photos anyway). Guess the tail could be cut and altered??
Is it heavy? The real thing tends to 'flow' if you know what I mean (it is a faux suede I believe?)
Morton
Is it heavy? The real thing tends to 'flow' if you know what I mean (it is a faux suede I believe?)
Morton
ratchetrex
Active Member
The coat is made of some type of wool but it still flows nicely in the breeze (which it would flow better in my opinion with the split tail) anywho as for the color it is a muddy brownish instead of the suede yellow.
Rex
Rex
Risu
Master Member
I had one of these, it's in pieces in a bag now. It was a decent coat, but I'm allergic to wool and a stickler for SA. If you take it apart and make some modifications it can become a pretty good pattern for a good coat, that's what I did.Please excuse the terrible lighting in the first shot and the lack of full costume in the second, I just took that one.
A quick list of details that are inaccurate about the Honest Dragon coat:
The spot where the collar and lapels meet is the wrong angle
No decorative topstitch on those pieces
The button placement is slightly too far apart
The buttons are too brown/small
Wrong material
BIG ONE: No split in the back and the pleat is only an inch deep. I had to make the back of my new coat from two pieces sewn together in the middle and each one had about 8 inches of material added for the pleat and a decent seam allowance for where it splits at the bottom.
My coat isn't perfect either, I got the material at a discount upholstery fabric place for $22 and as a result it is one shade lighter than the most accurate stuff you can get at Jo-Ann's for about $170, I'm OK with this. My buttons are too black and not positioned quite straight, but not bad for my first time sewing anything. I didn't add buttons down the back split. My pockets aren't angled properly. And a big one, the side seams of the main coat body should actually be about 6 inches farther back on the coat than the honest dragon pattern.
Anyways, I hope this helps you in your search for a coat.
A quick list of details that are inaccurate about the Honest Dragon coat:
The spot where the collar and lapels meet is the wrong angle
No decorative topstitch on those pieces
The button placement is slightly too far apart
The buttons are too brown/small
Wrong material
BIG ONE: No split in the back and the pleat is only an inch deep. I had to make the back of my new coat from two pieces sewn together in the middle and each one had about 8 inches of material added for the pleat and a decent seam allowance for where it splits at the bottom.
My coat isn't perfect either, I got the material at a discount upholstery fabric place for $22 and as a result it is one shade lighter than the most accurate stuff you can get at Jo-Ann's for about $170, I'm OK with this. My buttons are too black and not positioned quite straight, but not bad for my first time sewing anything. I didn't add buttons down the back split. My pockets aren't angled properly. And a big one, the side seams of the main coat body should actually be about 6 inches farther back on the coat than the honest dragon pattern.
Anyways, I hope this helps you in your search for a coat.
I have done a LOT of research into the coat, and can honestly say the Honest Dragon coat is one of the worst replicas out there.
Take a look at my comparisons here:
Coat Comparisons
I was not happy with any of the coats available, so made my own.
You can see the finished result here:
My Tennant Coat
Let me know what you think.
Take a look at my comparisons here:
Coat Comparisons
I was not happy with any of the coats available, so made my own.
You can see the finished result here:
My Tennant Coat
Let me know what you think.
lonerthx
Well-Known Member
I'm really impressed with the work you did on your coat, and I'm following your progress on the suit right now.
You've got the cut and pattern spot on. If you don't mind me saying, my only recommendation would be to beat the coat a little to soften it up, I did it with my Wested Raiders jacket and it drapes a lot better.
I managed to track down THE fabric used for the original coat - but it had been long discontinued, so had to find left over rolls across Europe.
Sadly the material I did find had a bonded backing which had to be removed before use.
It left a residue of the glue, which I ironed off as much as I could, but it did remain a little, hence the slight stiffness in places, but I assure you it is the softest fabric - a cross between suede and velvet !
Sadly the material I did find had a bonded backing which had to be removed before use.
It left a residue of the glue, which I ironed off as much as I could, but it did remain a little, hence the slight stiffness in places, but I assure you it is the softest fabric - a cross between suede and velvet !
Really nice coat!
Have read with interest all the comparisons. Am going to investigate tssy2005, and see if medina are still making the coats too.
Any definite suggestions as to what to ask tssy2005 to change/modify on the coat (if she will) to make it more screen accurate??
Thanks,
Morton
Have read with interest all the comparisons. Am going to investigate tssy2005, and see if medina are still making the coats too.
Any definite suggestions as to what to ask tssy2005 to change/modify on the coat (if she will) to make it more screen accurate??
Thanks,
Morton
protokev DMD
Sr Member
i have a tssy, i like it, but i cant seem to accuratley capture the color of it.
gunnerk19
Master Member
I'm far from an expert, but to me the biggest things that stand out are the color of the buttons, and the actual color of the coat itself, and the hip pocket flaps on the screen used ones appear to meet almost dead on at the front with the last bottom buttons, to within say 4 inches...
Kinda hard to tell really, as in almost every picture of Tennant with the coat on he has his hands in his pockets, effectively screwing up any good refernece photos regarding button/pocket placement/size, etc...
Kinda hard to tell really, as in almost every picture of Tennant with the coat on he has his hands in his pockets, effectively screwing up any good refernece photos regarding button/pocket placement/size, etc...
protokev DMD
Sr Member
there are buttons in the back, but i made sure to ask for them. I also asked for inside pockets but wires got crossed and they didnt include them.
The buttons are indeed inaccurate, and the color may not be super perfect, but its close enough for me.
The buttons are indeed inaccurate, and the color may not be super perfect, but its close enough for me.
SamandJanetFan
New Member
I've been following this thread closely, as I am considering both the Captain Jack Harkness and Doctor Who coats offered by tssy on eBay. For those of you out there (and you know who you are) who have purchased either coat from tssy, I have three general questions:
1. tssy offers the coats in both wool and faux suede. I would prefer the suede/moleskin, but am unsure about how it will look. Any thoughts/feedback?
2. When providing the measurements required for making the coat, is it best to be very accurate, go a bit bigger or even go a bit smaller on the measurements?
3. What special adjustments have you found need to be requested at the time of ordering (e.g., split tail in back, button placement, inside pockets, etc)?
Thanks in advance for all your help and hard work in researching these questions.
- Kris
1. tssy offers the coats in both wool and faux suede. I would prefer the suede/moleskin, but am unsure about how it will look. Any thoughts/feedback?
2. When providing the measurements required for making the coat, is it best to be very accurate, go a bit bigger or even go a bit smaller on the measurements?
3. What special adjustments have you found need to be requested at the time of ordering (e.g., split tail in back, button placement, inside pockets, etc)?
Thanks in advance for all your help and hard work in researching these questions.
- Kris
Thanks for the info, the coat does look good, but is a little expensive for me at the moment, which is why I was looking at getting the other one (see above). Do you know what needs altering on this one to make it 'right'?
Also, any news on when your brown tennant suit fabric run will be ready to go? Could you put me down for 5 yards please (I am 5 foot 8, and slim build, so guess that 5 yards will be plenty?)
Hope you can help.
Thanks,
Morton
Also, any news on when your brown tennant suit fabric run will be ready to go? Could you put me down for 5 yards please (I am 5 foot 8, and slim build, so guess that 5 yards will be plenty?)
Hope you can help.
Thanks,
Morton
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