Hellraiser

[TomVDJ]

I thought I'd share something I made, but needs a little finishing: I created the panels of the puzzle cube based on some files I still had on my PC, but now with gold / wood / black textures, so you can create your own paper cube from it. I wanted to put them in a cut-fold-glue template, but I don't know the exact orientation of the panels in the first Hellraiser movie. Also, It wouldn't fit on one A4 page, I think.

So here are the panels. If someone wants to make a template out of them (on two A4 papers or somethin): be my guest! But please use the correct orientation! If someone knows this orientation, could he post this than please?

Click the thumbnails for the full-size image.

 

[jasonw2112]

Looks good! However it should measure out to 3" x 3" x 3" square. It looks like the first configeration is a little off though, cause the center should be a perfect circle. It looks like it might have a little bit of an oval shape.

I have a file that was put out by the hellraiser conmic that fits on 1 sheet of paper, and lays everything out. I'll try to post here within the next few days, when I get a chance.

 

[TomVDJ]

It looks like the first configeration is a little off though, cause the center should be a perfect circle.

Maybe it looks like an oval, but it is a perfect circle. If you draw a circle over it in any drawing program, you'll notice that it's a circle and not an oval.

 

[jasonw2112]

Well here is a papercraft Hellraiser box, put out by the comic book. It should give you an idea on how to lay the panels out as 1 piece.


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For some reason when I was looking at the first configuration, it looked oval ( at work anyways ). However looking at it now, it is a circle!

 

[Amish Trooper]

Awesome now just use what Jason provided on how to lay it out and then it's perfect. look forward to an update on this.

 

[TomVDJ]

Well here is a papercraft Hellraiser box, put out by the comic book. It should give you an idea on how to lay the panels out as 1 piece.


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For some reason when I was looking at the first configuration, it looked oval ( at work anyways ). However looking at it now, it is a circle!

Mmm, this schema is not screen accurate. All 6 panels are unique, but in the schema, you have three times 2 panels that are identical. I think the comic book went for "good enough" instead of "as screen accurate as possible".

 

[jasonw2112]

The layout is accurate, but they may have just used the same pattern twice. Alot of the kits that are availble are going to be the same way. There may be slight differences, but they should'nt be too bad.

Anyways's If you line up your patterns the way it is in the diagram, you will get the correct placement, while using your configuations in paper prop form.

I have an early ( Horizon I believe? ) kit that was put out, and the configuratins are the same. I also have the schematics as well, and they only have 3 different configurations, which they use twice to make up all 6 sides of the box. I can't say I have seen a origional Hellraiser box from the movie to confirm it's accuracy. That and there is alot of people making their own interprataion of the boxes, so the differences could be fan made. Unless someone has a origional box from the movie to show any differences, how will we really know?

 

[TomVDJ]

The layout is accurate, but they may have just used the same pattern twice. Alot of the kits that are availble are going to be the same way. There may be slight differences, but they should'nt be too bad.

Anyways's If you line up your patterns the way it is in the diagram, you will get the correct placement, while using your configuations in paper prop form.

:unsure How can you have the correct placement, if not all panels are in that diagram??? Panel 2 and panel 5 are not in there, so how can you know what the correct location is? On top of that, it's not only the position of the panel in the schema, but also the orientation. It's possible that panels have to be rotated 90° or 180° clockwise or counterclockwise.

No, the layout you posted is not screen accurate at all. It's good for people who want a paper prop that looks more or less like the box in the movie, but not for people who want 100% screen accuracy.

 

[jasonw2112]

:unsure How can you have the correct placement, if not all panels are in that diagram??? Panel 2 and panel 5 are not in there, so how can you know what the correct location is? On top of that, it's not only the position of the panel in the schema, but also the orientation. It's possible that panels have to be rotated 90° or 180° clockwise or counterclockwise.

No, the layout you posted is not screen accurate at all. It's good for people who want a paper prop that looks more or less like the box in the movie, but not for people who want 100% screen accuracy.

Oooo.K... Well I like screen accuracy as well, but like I said, unless someone here has actually held one of the screen accurate ones in there own hands, Who knows! I mean are you really wanting to summon the minnions of hell? However I'm sure the answer to your concern can be found.

So, that leaves some other options. Screen grabs. Also where did you get the configurations that are different ( panel 2 and 5 ). Whoever obtained those configerations is the key to finding out how they are positioned. I agree they are different, but were they from a box made by the first movie, 2nd, 3rd, etc.. They could have made different varitions, for other movies in the series.
I'll see if I can post some pics from my Hellraiser box ( Based from the first Hellraiser movie ) and you can see it has the same layout as the paper prop, and there was only one way for it to go together. That and I have some schematics as well.

 

[Patron Zero]

I have the resin kit that came out ages ago, it came with excellent images of the panels, if such would be of assistance I'm happy to scan-upload such.

 

[TomVDJ]

So, that leaves some other options. Screen grabs. Also where did you get the configurations that are different ( panel 2 and 5 ). Whoever obtained those configerations is the key to finding out how they are positioned. I agree they are different, but were they from a box made by the first movie, 2nd, 3rd, etc.. They could have made different varitions, for other movies in the series.

Those panels are well-known to the real fans. The boxes used in the movies, all have six different panels. The only thing that is different in the movies, is the placement and orientation of these panels. But the 6 panels are a constant throughout the movies.

If you take a look at the site of the best box-maker at this moment (in my humble opinion): Hellraiserbox.net Unique Versions of the Lament Configuration movable working puzzle boxes for sale., you'll see he has the configurations of all movies. I'thinking of buying a static box with the configuration of the first movie. If I have this one, I can place the correct orientation on this forum, but it could take a time, since I now don't have the budget for an extra prop.

 

[jasonw2112]

Well if your such a "real fan" then how come you don't know?

I'm tring to offer help, which is what this forum is about, not be condescending.
That being said you can go to the Hellraiser Puzzle Box.com and it shows a complete 360 view of the puzzle box ( whom I believe is a member here as well ) and makes nice boxes as well. I never said that laminations 2 and 5 did'nt exsist, I just said that they were not on the schmatics I have.

The puzzle box that I have was also a liscened item put out it the late 80's, which led me to be "screen accurate", and does'nt have these configerations.

Why would you be so concerened about the layout of the origional box that your making out of paper, only to buy a reproduction one?

It just so happens that I have alot of information, books, and documentries, on the Hellraiser series. Which is why I responded to this thread. I planed on looking up the info you provided, and get more information, because I don't have it right off the top of my head. If your still interested in that info, then just ask politely, otherwise your just going to burn alot of bridges with people on the this forum.

 

[TomVDJ]

Well if your such a "real fan" then how come you don't know?

I didn't say I'm a "real fan".

I'm tring to offer help, which is what this forum is about, not be condescending.

I'm just pointing out that your image is not correct. I'm sorry if this hurts your feelings, but it simply is not correct.

That being said you can go to the Hellraiser Puzzle Box.com and it shows a complete 360 view of the puzzle box ( whom I believe is a member here as well ) and makes nice boxes as well. I never said that laminations 2 and 5 did'nt exsist, I just said that they were not on the schmatics I have.

The puzzle box that I have was also a liscened item put out it the late 80's, which led me to be "screen accurate", and does'nt have these configerations.

The best way to see if something is screen accurate is simply by looking at the movie . I know that there is a lot of "licensed" Hellraiser stuff (and other movies) that's of bad quality or not screen accurate at all. Look at the NECA puzzle boxes. They are just falling apart after a while. And these are also official licensed boxes.

Why would you be so concerened about the layout of the origional box that your making out of paper, only to buy a reproduction one?

I posted the images for people who wanted to make a paper one. I never claimed I want to make one myself. I already have some replica's of the box, but I'm not sure of the configuration of the panels. You can find a review of my boxes here:

hellraiserbox.net - The Hellbound Web

It just so happens that I have alot of information, books, and documentries, on the Hellraiser series. Which is why I responded to this thread. I planed on looking up the info you provided, and get more information, because I don't have it right off the top of my head. If your still interested in that info, then just ask politely, otherwise your just going to burn alot of bridges with people on the this forum.

I'm sorry Jason, but It seems I just did hurt your feelings by pointing out that what you posted was not screen accurate. I also just tried to help to point out to people not take that schema as a reference if they want a screen accurate box. I appreciate it that you want to help, but accept that people evaluate what you post, and tell you when it is not correct.

So now I'd like to get back on track: the panels I posted are free to be used by anyone who want's to make a paper cube. Once I have the info about the correct orientation and configuration of the 6 different panels, I'll let it now right here.

I can post the configuration of my coromandel box, but I don't know exactly of wich movie this is the configuration of.

 

[jasonw2112]

Well I'm sorry for juming the gun to your comments as being condenseding. So that being said when I get a chance I will look and see how the patterns are layed out to the movie.

It's weird that Neca, along with Screamin ( the manufacturer of my box ) go through the trouble of making the boxes, inaccurate...saving money I guess!

The site I mentioned hellraiser box .com claims to be layed out to the movie specs, from movie info. After watching the video on his site of the boxes he makes, it looks like this could be a good reference for figuring out the layout. He also has the 2 panels, missing from the licensed boxes.

I've found the idea of other boxes fascinating, along with the storyline of Phillip lermanchand. Ive wanted to make some boxes of my own design, but I have yet to find the 3" boxes in the U.S.

So on with the search!

 

[JediTrainer]

Thanks for the uploaded pic's TomVDJ. The correct order would be nice to know, but I don't think most of the people would be able to point out a mistake in the pattern anyway. They look great! I just watched most of the movies for the first time recently, and thought it would be nice to make one of these. Now I need to find out how to resize them and put them on a 3'' x 3'' x 3'' cube

 

[JediTrainer]

I'm sure you guys have see this already...but I thought it couldn't hurt to say something anyway. I was watching the intro to HR6 and it shows some close ups of the cube spinning.

 

[TomVDJ]

Hey JediTrainer, I know that the "configuration" (= orientation and placement) of the panels is different in each movie. I prefer the configuration of the first movie. If I have some more time, I'll post the correct configuration here.

 

[williamtaylor]

I thought I'd share something I made, but needs a little finishing: I created the panels of the puzzle cube based on some files I still had on my PC, but now with gold / wood / black textures, so you can create your own paper cube from it. I wanted to put them in a cut-fold-glue template, but I don't know the exact orientation of the panels in the first Hellraiser movie. Also, It wouldn't fit on one A4 page, I think.

So here are the panels. If someone wants to make a template out of them (on two A4 papers or somethin): be my guest! But please use the correct orientation! If someone knows this orientation, could he post this than please?

Click the thumbnails for the full-size image.

Impressive work! Those were done in a computer, I assume?

Bill

 

[JediTrainer]

Ok. Thanks again for posting them.

 

[TomVDJ]

Impressive work! Those were done in a computer, I assume?

Bill

Yep, I had the patterns on my PC, but don't remember where I got them. They were just black and white. I than looked up a brass and wood texture image on the internet, and in Photoshop replaced the black of the pattern with the brass, and the white with the wood (or black for the star panels).