Halo Reach Deliver Hope Trailer-I don't know WHY they withhold an actual movie!!

CTF said:
It's about as deep as the Mario brothers (and I'm saying that as a guy who was hired to work on that movie).
Click to expand...

I really don't think that's completely fair. Have you read Eric Nyland's The Fall of Reach? All of Eric Nyland's novels in the Halo series are actually quite good, particularly the Fall of Reach which explains the origin of Master Chief and the creation and deaths of most of the Spartan 2s (the Spartan "1" would of course refer to the original historical Spartans so Masterchief and his group were the "2" series.

Unfortunately William C. Dietz was the author of Halo: The Flood which recounts the story from the first Halo game and if you were to judge by that one, I'd agree with you. It's not nearly as well written... But a good author (or screenwriter) can breathe life into a story as is the case with Eric Nyland in Halo: the Fall of Reach, Halo: Ghosts of Onyx and to a lesser degree in Halo: First Strike.

I've read tons of scifi and Eric Nyland's stuff is as good as most anybody's. It may not be on the level of Starship Troopers, Dune or Snow Crash but it's still good stuff IMHO.

If you want to say the franchise has no depth, that's fine, you're certainly entitled to your opinion but have you at least read ANY of the novels that actually delve into the story as opposed to the games which barely touch on it?

Heck, look at what they did with 300 and tell me even something as shallow as that couldn't work for Halo and work just as well.

Master Chief doesn't have to be the only character in the movie so in that respect I'd also wholeheartedly disagree with Contec. You never even have to see Master Chief's face - exactly like Darth Vader. Other characters are how you link in to the story, not ONLY through Master Chief. Heck, you could tell a story about an ODST squad who's faces you do see and names you know plus Cortana, Dr. Halsey and the other various characters. That's just one possibility out of a million... so I don't think anybody should be saying they CAN'T come up with a way to do it.
 
Halo has a lot of potential.. A lot of the Older crowd that isnt involved with this great realm really doesnt understand it.. Halo to this generation of people growing up really is similar to Star Wars when it came out in 1977.. There will be a movie eventually of Halo. It will take some doing but i am sure something will come out and it will be a great success.

as for someone comparing halo to super mario bros it is sad that someone is that narrow minded to think that those 2 could even compare yes mario paved the way into this craze over video games but the halo realm is so much more than just a game..

All in time....(y)thumbsup
 
desolate said:
Halo has a lot of potential.. A lot of the Older crowd that isnt involved with this great realm really doesnt understand it.. Halo to this generation of people growing up really is similar to Star Wars when it came out in 1977.. There will be a movie eventually of Halo. It will take some doing but i am sure something will come out and it will be a great success.

as for someone comparing halo to super mario bros it is sad that someone is that narrow minded to think that those 2 could even compare yes mario paved the way into this craze over video games but the halo realm is so much more than just a game..

All in time....(y)thumbsup
Click to expand...

How can you compare Halo to Star wars ? and then have a pop at someone comparing it to Mario Bros ?
You just said yourself to people growing up now Halo is like SW was in 1977 and that older people don't get it, when actually SW was quite the opposite it appealed to young and old thats why it became as huge as it did.

No doubt there will be a movie though and it probably will be a success in terms of money but making money doesn't make a movie good, i could name dozens of successsful movies that are complete garbage.
 
defstartrooper said:
How can you compare Halo to Star wars ? and then have a pop at someone comparing it to Mario Bros ?
You just said yourself to people growing up now Halo is like SW was in 1977 and that older people don't get it, when actually SW was quite the opposite it appealed to young and old thats why it became as huge as it did.

No doubt there will be a movie though and it probably will be a success in terms of money but making money doesn't make a movie good, i could name dozens of successsful movies that are complete garbage.
Click to expand...

Actually, I'm 40. Saw Star Wars at 7 years old. Heck, Nathan Fillion is arguably one of Halo's biggest fans and he's no spring chicken himself. There are tons of folks "our" age that love Halo and not just because of the games. Check out the Halo costuming forums... I'd say that qualifies as "appealing to all ages."

And, yet again, in response to CTF, what are you familiar with beyond the video game? If you're gonna criticize it as having no depth or no soul, back it up with what you've read or played in the Halo franchise. There have been quite a few novels and comics in addition to the anime short films that were recently released. Do you know anything about ANY of them?
 
dualedge said:
Actually, I'm 40. Saw Star Wars at 7 years old. Heck, Nathan Fillion is arguably one of Halo's biggest fans and he's no spring chicken himself. There are tons of folks "our" age that love Halo and not just because of the games. Check out the Halo costuming forums... I'd say that qualifies as "appealing to all ages."

And, yet again, in response to CTF, what are you familiar with beyond the video game? If you're gonna criticize it as having no depth or no soul, back it up with what you've read or played in the Halo franchise. There have been quite a few novels and comics in addition to the anime short films that were recently released. Do you know anything about ANY of them?
Click to expand...

I never made the statement that older folks don't like Halo he did, that was the reason he gave that people are against a Halo movie.

And really why the arguments about soul and depth it's totally irrelevant we all know if Hollywood makes a Halo movie it will be just an explosions and gunfight crappy action flick nothing more.
 
The story of halo, in my best way of putting it, is comparable to an Epic. Not saying it should be comparable, to like the "Odessey" or others written of that time, but the way CTF compared it to Super Mario Bros., well, that game, although paved the way at the time for video game history, has no real-world story that can be seen as successful for a motion picture.

Yea, the overall story is nothing new, however, the style and world created, characters, etc. built around it is what really makes it great. While other games suggest the close "extinction of mankind," you can actually FEEL it from the stories written for the halo universe.

One part of a book comes to mind when you really feel for the characters and people in the stories, such as in Contact: Harvest, when it discusses Sgt. Johnson coming back from an operation to visit his grandmother in her nursing home, only to find that she has been diceased for 3 days prior, with the nurses knowing about it and leaving her corpse in the room where she died. The majority of the novel discusses how he deals emotionally not only from the unexpected death of his last family member, but as well as a previous operation in which he and his squad were fighting insurgents that took a gas stop/resturant hostage. He could have saved everyone by one shot from his rifle, but hesitated too long, long enough for a hostage to leap at the insurgent, setting off the bomb that was planted in the resturant, killing everyone in his squad.

Never mind the part towards the end, in which several thousands of Harvest's civilians evacuating from the surface via cargo containers on the orbital elevators, were killed when the covenant destroyed the elevator's cables, hurdling those believing to survive the onslaught, were now drifting into space, unable to be rescued or survive.
 
Last edited:
Even a diehard Halo fan agreed with me that it doesn't have any soul.

Sure, it is epic in scope, but that doesn't mean ****.
 
CTF said:
Even a diehard Halo fan agreed with me that it doesn't have any soul.

Sure, it is epic in scope, but that doesn't mean ****.
Click to expand...

I think you've established your opinion CTF. Now if you could manage something more than 'it has no depth' and 'it has no soul' maybe we could actually have a real discussion.
 
defstartrooper said:
I never made the statement that older folks don't like Halo he did, that was the reason he gave that people are against a Halo movie.

And really why the arguments about soul and depth it's totally irrelevant we all know if Hollywood makes a Halo movie it will be just an explosions and gunfight crappy action flick nothing more.
Click to expand...

Yeah, sorry... I worded my response poorly. I don't think tubachris really meant the way that post read on the surface. Halo is sort of like Star Wars for a lot of younger kids but of course, as you said, it's obviously not just for kids.

I think it sort of depends on who handles Halo as to how good it could be. I had high hopes for it when it was in Peter Jackson and Blomkamp's hands and I think they proved that they COULD have done it and pulled it off well by what they did with District 9... Giant spaceship, armored battle suit, bug-like aliens PLUS a well crafted story.
 
CTF said:
Even a diehard Halo fan agreed with me that it doesn't have any soul.

Sure, it is epic in scope, but that doesn't mean ****.
Click to expand...

Your opinion at this point is irrelevant to the discussion until you post a substantial basis for your argument
 
I too have read a few of the Halo books and followed some of the Expanded Universe and there is plenty of depth and substance to make a film (or 3).

Anyone who says otherwise hasn't presented any opinion or argument to make me change or reconsider my opinion.

God sometimes reading posts on this forum is like being back at school in a playground.

Thanks to the original poster, who linked the video. May have missed it otherwise.
 
Exactly, I can't even remember if the marine guy that you played from the very first game even had a name.

At the end of the day, if you are comparing Halo to Doom, then you haven't played or taken in the whole Halo story. Theres so much more to it. When I play the game I find it hard not to be drawn into the story.

Well I enjoyed it anyway.
 
I really think all the nay-saying comes more from ignorance of the story and the Halo universe more than anything else. I don't fault people for not being interested enough to actively seek out the novels or story but don't assume it's not there and knock it just because you're not interested in it.

Besides, if 300 can work as a film, Halo can work as a film.

Heck, for that matter, I think Doom COULD have worked... It wasn't good IMHO but it also wasn't the most horrible movie I've ever seen.
 
Oh boy! If you have Waypoint on Live, they released the extended version of this trailer. I gotta say that this version has much more of an emotional impact. They have a longer pause showing the noble 6 suit which absolutly looks phenominal!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top