Gun laws in MA and the Denix broomhandle mauser

[IronFist]

I've been wanting to buy a Denix broomhandle replica for awhile to make the obvious Han ANH replica. But I notice that a lot of places won't ship to Massachusetts because it's a modern firearm replica and apparently, those are verbotten here.

But this leads me to wonder: Just how bad is it to have one? Are they going to cart me off if they ever discover that I have one? Do I need to renew my pistol permit?

 

[superjedi]

I had always thought the Broomhandle was classed as an antique.

 

[IronFist]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(superjedi @ Jan 2 2007, 01:00 PM) [snapback]1388938[/snapback]</div>

I had always thought the Broomhandle was classed as an antique.
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According to Grendel's Cave (the eBay seller from whose auctions I have gleaned what little info I have), a modern firearm replica, at least as far as Massachusetts law is concerned, is anything manufactured after 1898.

 

[137th Gebirg]

The Broomhandle is an odd bird. There are variants out there with detachable high-cap mags, extended barrels, detachable stocks and, yes, even fully automatic variants - which classify this weapon and all in its family as an "assault weapon". It was actually included in the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 (which thankfully died in 2004) for these reasons, and I suspect several states jumped on that particular bandwagon locally while the AWB was still in effect, even though it should have fallen under the "Relics and Curios" laws. The SKS has the same weirdness attached to it. It's ok to have a Russian SKS with bayonet lug and bayonet, but NOT a Chinese SKS with the same. The Chinese variant came later and wasn't considered a relic, even though they are identically designed. The only visible difference at 10 feet is the Chinese bayonet is a tri-point, whereas the Russian one is a blade.

You should be glad you don't live in New Jersey. I could fill an entire page on their retarded gun laws.

 

[Chingon]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(IronFist @ Jan 2 2007, 09:50 AM) [snapback]1388925[/snapback]</div>

I've been wanting to buy a Denix broomhandle replica for awhile to make the obvious Han ANH replica. But I notice that a lot of places won't ship to Massachusetts because it's a modern firearm replica and apparently, those are verbotten here.

But this leads me to wonder: Just how bad is it to have one? Are they going to cart me off if they ever discover that I have one? Do I need to renew my pistol permit?
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We have similar laws about realistic looking firearm replicas in CA and I still own my share of Broomhandle based blasters and even a Sterling. Not trying to advocate you breaking any laws, but as long as you keep the thing in your home and safe, I don't see how you could ever get in trouble for owning it.

 

[137th Gebirg]

If it is a "non firing replica", chances are no permits are needed and no laws are broken, so long as a live round cannot be chambered - or even a blank round for that matter.

Additionally, many states also have "brandishing" laws, which apply if the device in question resembles a firearm in any way and is being held or wielded by the owner, even in jest. These laws came about following the fatal shooting of kids by police when they were waving around realistic-looking squirt guns, BB guns, airsoft guns, or some-such. I don't think paintball guns apply, as they are clearly different-looking than all other firearms.

Also, even if you have a fake pistol in a holster on your hip, or in plain sight, and some little old lady freaks out and starts screaming, the police may arrest and convict you for disturbing the peace. Your prop will subsequently be confiscated.

 

[Chingon]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(137th Gebirg @ Jan 2 2007, 10:54 AM) [snapback]1388990[/snapback]</div>

If it is a "non firing replica", chances are no permits are needed and no laws are broken[/b]

Definitely not the case in CA. Realistic looking, non firing replicas are illegal. Period. End of story. The only people who are exempt from this are people in the film industry and they do have permits for owning such things.

 

[WilberWisdom]

MA pretty much restricts everything they can with guns. New Hampshire on the otherhand is just the opposite. The only restriction I know of is a permit is needed to carry a concealed weapon. Other than that, it's pretty open for gun sales, etc. No income tax, no sales tax there either. I guess that's why they call it "The Live Free Or Die" state.

 

[adamata]

Damn right. I love living in NH.

All the guns and ammo I want, muhahahahaha.

oh, um.....sorry.

Anyway, that is right. The only permit you need in NH is a concealed permit. Other than that, its all good. But there is one small caveat IIRC. You cannot take a firearm into a government building even with a concealed permit. IE courthouse, post office, etc.

 

[Uber Fett]

Anyone hastles you about it...just remember:

US Bill of Rights©
Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. [/b]

In so much as MA doesn't want to be part of the union, until they secede, they still can't pick and choose which rights they want to violate...although it's done every day. So, the question is, how much do you wish to stand upon your principals to have a prop.

Shawn

 

[Robot Monster]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(adamata @ Jan 2 2007, 08:20 PM) [snapback]1389038[/snapback]</div>

Damn right. I love living in NH.

All the guns and ammo I want, muhahahahaha.

oh, um.....sorry.

Anyway, that is right. The only permit you need in NH is a concealed permit. Other than that, its all good. But there is one small caveat IIRC. You cannot take a firearm into a government building even with a concealed permit. IE courthouse, post office, etc.
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Yup I love being in NH. When I moved out of the parents home so many years ago I moved right up to NH.

Tek

 

[pennausamike]

Pennsylvania is pretty good about firearms ownership also.
Both real and imaginary.

The amazing part is that the "orange plug in realistic weapons" rule is Federally mandated by the BATF.

Mike

 

[yodakiller1138]

I live in MA and the laws never stopped me. I own several replica prop guns. The thing is to be low key about it and not to brandish it in public in a threatening manner. What are police going to do? Use gestapo tactics and break down doors to get us "DANGEROUS REPLICA GUN" owners.

 

[Robot Monster]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(yodakiller1138 @ Jan 3 2007, 02:16 PM) [snapback]1389538[/snapback]</div>

I live in MA and the laws never stopped me. I own several replica prop guns. The thing is to be low key about it and not to brandish it in public in a threatening manner. What are police going to do? Use gestapo tactics and break down doors to get us "DANGEROUS REPLICA GUN" owners.
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Ah yes. You live in Mass... :lol

Seriously, I remember police going to the Ren Fairs and measuring the metal studs on armor to make sure they were not too long. Some Con's even have a no weapons policy due to trouble from the police.

 

[137th Gebirg]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pennausamike @ Jan 3 2007, 06:20 AM) [snapback]1389498[/snapback]</div>

Pennsylvania is pretty good about firearms ownership also.
Both real and imaginary.

The amazing part is that the "orange plug in realistic weapons" rule is Federally mandated by the BATF.

Mike
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The odd thing I noticed in Pennsylvania is a recent ban on wood-tip blanks. As a WWII reenactor, there are some weapons that can ONLY fire wood-tip blanks, as crimped blanks don't feed properly. This makes absolutely no sense, as all such weapons have shredders in the muzzle, and the wood tips are all made of a very light balsa, 99% of which incinerates on discharge anyway. That bizarre law only seems to directly impact the reenacting community, as I can think of no other groups that would use them.

Honestly don't get it. :confused

 

[Uber Fett]

Honestly don't get it.[/b]

Well, you just don't get it do you...geez. Afterall, you might, just possibly, if ever there was a slim chance...and IF IT JUST SAVES ONE CHILD....from the slightest sliver...it will all be worth it. :confused

Shawn

 

[propgangsta]

Guns are fun. It's fun to shoot. At the range. In the woods. Hell, even in the backyard. Restrictions are retarded. Mankind has a right to carry guns for protection as well as entertainment. Guns are manly and real men know that guns do not kill. The finger pulling the trigger does. Thank God for people like Charlton Heston.