Solo4114
Master Member
And dude, I DID START A THREAD FOR JUST THAT PURPOSE! It was brought up 10 times that it was locked in THIS thread the instant it was put up. I EVEN PUT IN THE DESCRIPTION, PLEASE DO NOT BASH ME OR OTHERS FOR THE WAY WE DO THINGS, THIS IS TO KEEP THE PEACE!
What happened? it got locked! Within minutes!
I don't know why the thread was locked. Maybe the staff felt it was duplicative and they didn't need two threads on GB16 floating around. Or maybe they felt that such a black hole of negativity wasn't something they wanted on the forum.
You could ask them directly, though, and find out.
If this thread devolves into simply me and golden hawk trashing it constantly, i'm happy with that. if others aren't, I just don't know what to say at this point.
Do you realize how self-centered that sounds? You may not, actually, but your comment basically comes across as simply not giving a damn that the fact that you and goldhawk SO NEEDED a place to vent your negativity that you were perfectly happy to drive all other discussion and commenters away.
Dude. That is not how a community works. It's not all about you and your needs.
We can't trash talk it elsewhere due to censorship. We can't trash talk it in a thread designed to trash talk it...what other recourse is there for those who feel the need to vent about how sorry a franchise they once like has become? and if we like doing it, why walk away?
Because the way in which you're doing it is basically driving everyone else away from a discussion that ostensibly ought to be welcoming and open to them. You ask what other recourse you have. Here are a few options:
- Start your own thread (if the mods will let you).
- Do so over PM with likeminded individuals. Protip: you can include multiple people on a PM, I think, so you could have like a little discussion group if you wanted.
- Just stop complaining about the film and go find stuff to be happy about instead.
Alternatively, if none of those work for you, you can bitch in this thread in a way that doesn't basically shut down all other discussion. I think you may not realize that it's not simply that you have negative things to say about the film, but that it's the way in which you engage in that discussion that is driving people away. You aren't content to just let a post go that says something like "Check out this cool prop photo from the new film!" Instead, you have to chime in with "Ugh. Such garbage. And by the way, the film was such garbage, too." Hell, Goldhawk LITERALLY called posting something about props -- ON A PROP BOARD -- trying to distract from what he seems to believe is the central purpose of this thread: bitching about the film.
Quite simply, you are not allowing other discussion to occur without needing to at least jump in and say "IT SUCKED IT SUCKED IT SUCKED." And when people say "Dude, chill out. We're just trying to have a discussion here," you complain about how you've been silenced and censored and whatnot.
There are other ways to complain. Each "positive" (or, I suppose, non-negative) comment does not require an individual reply from you about how much you hate the film, how Paul Feig is the devil, how the props were ugly, the pro-GB16 folks are so mean, etc. It's not a contest, and you don't "lose" if there's non-negative stuff in this thread that goes unopposed. You can just let other people have a pleasant discussion about stuff that isn't bitching about the film.
But if you can't? If you're at a point where you simply have to interject and tell people how awful the film is and what a personal tragedy it's been for you that it exists at all in the universe? If you can't allow opinions contrary to your own to go unchallenged, even when they aren't being directed at you? Then it's time to either walk away, or at least expect people to call you on it.
All the opinions are one sided now on both sides.
Actually, that's not true. Not even remotely. D_osborn has been pretty clear that the thought the film was, eh, you know, fine-ish. Nothing special, nothing awful. He's also talking about some of the fun going on in the GB fan realms. That's not simply "THIS FILM IS GOOD AND ALL WHO DISAGREE ARE STUPID HATERS."