NakedMoleRat
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General Doctor Whoniverse Discussion
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The fourth said that it had been prepared for so the assumption is that he did something special with his essence in order to create his "stalker".
8 almost didn't make it so let's say residue from the Vortex.
DuneMuadDib
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Ah, fair point. I'm still assuming for the time being that Susan is dead since the Doctor has alluded to his family being dead. The new series also doesn't seem to be drawing a distinction between Time Lords and Gallifreyans so I'm inferring that all Time Lords being gone includes all Gallifreyans.
Not that I like the idea, I'd just as soon the Doctor not be completely alone in the universe.
greatwazoo42
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There is also the argument that the 1st Doctor refereed to having only one heart multiple times to some cannon authorities tossed down some retcon that the second heart shows up at the first regeneration. Personally I just think he was "dumbing it down not to scare the primitives" that he had a better CV system than they did.
That's the explanation I tend to go with as well. :thumbsup
greatwazoo42
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Me too. Afterall - the Doctor lies.
greatwazoo42
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I love that!
DuneMuadDib
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According to an interview with McCoy neither he nor his predecessors have been contacted about involvement in the 50th anniversary episode.
greatwazoo42
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Either he's lying (damn those non-disclosure agreements) or there are people in the BBC Management who will be made to pay...dearly.
NakedMoleRat
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All the press (and non-press) from the previous Doctors is extremely interesting. If you read it straight on paper - no previous doctors are involved with the televised 50th anniversary special at all. End of story.
However, given that Moffat has completely pulled the wool over all of Whodom twice recently - it would not shock me at all if he's going for the trifecta. He seems like to sort to do that.
And then you have weird things like Barrowman saying, "yay! they called me for the 50th!" and almost immediately dialing it back and saying "well, I may be involved in some way...everyone chill" as if he were instructed to do so. and other docs have made similar "I may be involved in some way...or not" comments.
So my guess is...other docs are involved in the televised special and they are trying for Super Duper Secret Time Part 3. It just seems silly with the ENTIRE fanbase wanting at least one of their precious previous doctors involved - why would you disappoint everyone?
Does anyone remember last year with the debacle where Peter Davison was listed for an episode on IMDB - and then he was taken off the cast list? I can't remember what ep that was.
I don't really care either way. Any day with DW is better than a day without, imo. I just have a feeling they are going for obfuscation and misdirection.
Either way, the die is cast. It started filming this week. As does the next season of Sherlock.
However, given that Moffat has completely pulled the wool over all of Whodom twice recently - it would not shock me at all if he's going for the trifecta. He seems like to sort to do that.
And then you have weird things like Barrowman saying, "yay! they called me for the 50th!" and almost immediately dialing it back and saying "well, I may be involved in some way...everyone chill" as if he were instructed to do so. and other docs have made similar "I may be involved in some way...or not" comments.
So my guess is...other docs are involved in the televised special and they are trying for Super Duper Secret Time Part 3. It just seems silly with the ENTIRE fanbase wanting at least one of their precious previous doctors involved - why would you disappoint everyone?
Does anyone remember last year with the debacle where Peter Davison was listed for an episode on IMDB - and then he was taken off the cast list? I can't remember what ep that was.
I don't really care either way. Any day with DW is better than a day without, imo. I just have a feeling they are going for obfuscation and misdirection.
Either way, the die is cast. It started filming this week. As does the next season of Sherlock.
cboath
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There's also the story that said Tom Baker contacted them. So, sure, they haven't contacted him - but contact's been made nonetheless.
Frankly, you can't expect them to admit it. They're trying to keep it a secret. I think that's a good thing - whether or not it happens is another story. The difference in the last 2 secrets is that no one knew there was a secret to be kept. Now they know to be looking for it.
Which two times would that be?
NakedMoleRat
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No one knew that Jenna Louise Coleman was going to be in the season premiere (Asylum), let alone playing a Dalek.
No one knew that she was playing the same character in The Snowmen. (they actually said she wasn't)
And right now, no one really even knows what her deal is.
I'd say that's pretty damn good secret keeping.
Okay, this actually made me laugh! :lol
Playing Devil's Advocate here, but that's not a hard secret to keep. She's already been announced as the next companion so her being around the set doesn't arouse suspicion. Having a bunch of vintage Doctors coming by is MUCH harder to hide.
Several folks in this very thread (or maybe the "New series" one) called it before the show aired.
I won't deny that he's good at keeping a lid on things but hiding scripts and plot points isn't huge. Hiding Tom Baker walking on to the set is near impossible I would imagine.
As I said though, Devil's Advocate here.
Love Ian... But I don't think anyone particularly cared either. :lol
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