eFX A New Hope Darth Vader Helmet

[skynet]

Im sorry, but cant get any more pretentious than this.
You guys just crack me up, you should call yourselves the priory of Sion.

George Lucas should reclute all of you because you guard the holy secrets of the Vader.
I try to follow the line of thought and some how it all becomes an ego thing, or something that is so small and taken out of context and you make it a huge deal.

That screen used Vader is damaged due to use on the film, theres no intelligence behind those cracks or dents or whatever, who on their senses would spend hours actually recreating those flaws one by one??.

What for?, what are you claiming to have by doing that.
You do not own the screen used helmet!, whatever cast you have, its not as good, so dont pretend to be know it all because ,DVD or High Def, you are still screen capturing.


Ive only heard about a supposed flare on the Dome, the C scar is painted or surface, the Ridge doesnt allign to the eyebrow, the divot doesnt appear on the EFX, the paint scheme is not ok, so far you have proved nothing, under the excuse that "you cannot show your helmet".

Why you do this?, whats your need for all this?. I want to hear news and info from Gino and EFX but they spend their time explaining things to you over and over.

Honestly, who do you think you are? Dont answer me, you are the ones that need to know.

There's some logic in that but for an example:

Do you want to pay nearly 1000 Dollars for a Vader helmet because you like it (and because the helmet is seen as something rare/special) only to find out it is a cleaned up recast of something you get for 250 Dollars?

Thanks to the people who can track down various helmets/castings to their source, many people don't have to spend hundreds of dollars for these dubious helmets.

Take the Elstree ROTJ: NOTHING to do with Elstree, just a heavily cleaned up recast of a 20th Century.

If I knew that before - and I owned both helmets so I was able to proof that - I wouldn't have spend so much on this Elstree but instead would have bought a DS 20th Century and finish it myself. At least the DS doesn't have that dome warpage on the flange.

So to sum it up, I can follow your point but you have to make a difference between tracking down things or research and detail fanatism.

 

[vaderdarth]

That's exactly it, my idea of "ideal" and gino's idea of "ideal" are obviously not the same as we each place a higher value on separate details relating to this casting. That doesn't make either one of us more right or more wrong, it's just a difference of opinion. Some of us who aren't independently wealthy and can't afford every single pedigree helmet on the market, have to glean as much information from these discussions as is humanly possible so we can make the right decision on whether purchasing this beautiful helmet is right for our own collection or not. A grand is a lot of money for me personally. I never shell it out without the research first. People tend to expect everyone else to think like they do, yet most people have distinct differences in opinions about what seems like the most mundane details. What is trash to one may be treasure to another. It is okay to have a difference of opinion.

Dave

 

[frosty]

i must say its a bit headache inducing reading through this, the helmets certainly look the part though, congrats to those who got them.

 

[vaderdarth]

I agree frosty, in the end, it looks like Darth Vader.

 

[Dark-Side]

Ok, I'd like to know where a normal guy like me can buy a ANH vader helmet with all these details!?!?!

SL? no, impossible
DJ? no, impossible
TM? no, impossible
VP? no, impossible

well, for $579,00 there is an SPFX...............

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

For all that $579, just send me the money, I will claim to have sent you a Vader helmet and vanish from the face of the Earth, too.

 

[vaderdarth]

One could always combine parts from different helmets. Biggest problem is the availability of the domes for some helmets. I guess the answer is that we just keep striving for it all and accepting what we can get. Availability is the key.

 

[Darth Niob]

Ok, I'd like to know where a normal guy like me can buy a ANH vader helmet with all these details!?!?!

SL? no, impossible
DJ? no, impossible
TM? no, impossible
VP? no, impossible

well, for $579,00 there is an SPFX...............

You could go with one of Darth Stones 20th Century lids. Its a very nice and authentic cast if you would like to go for ESB/ROTH and it certainly has it details, although not as much as the helmet you named. Or try to spend some dollars more for an eFX limited edition.

 

[Wes]

How about someone send me pics of the cheek of all the fanmade helmets from a bogus email account. I'll post them up here for all to judge.

Nice and anonymous and I could care less what "vendors" think of me posting the pics.

 

[GINO]

Wes I think that is a fantastic idea.

 

[vaderdarth]

It's also a fantastic idea to see the inside of the Baker mould. I'm all for both ideas!!!!

 

[GINO]

Ok.
I've just gotten permission from Bryan to post a couple photos showing some key details of the Baker mold. Please do not repost these photos on any other sites.
This is an RPF exclusive. :thumbsup

This molding material is called ad-rub which is a urethane based molding material used in the 70's/80's and was what Baker is known for using on his projects.

This mold surface actually touched the one and only screen used ANH Vader helmet.
Wicked cool.

There are two photos shown:

Top photo:
On the original ANH facemask, 3 plastic mounting tabs were used to secure the dome to the facemask. Originally 5 of these tabs were in place (side by side touching).
For whatever reason, two of the middle tabs were removed leaving the three we've seen in all the pics on set as well as found in the UK style castings.
I believe the two center tabs were removed because they made it two difficult to press the dome tabs into the facemask tabs.

Regardless, the holes for the screws which secured all 5 of them are still clearly visible as they were removed from the original helmet before being molded.


Bottom photo:
Here you can see Vader's right cheek (because you are looking into a negative mold, it is flip flopped).
You can clearly see many of the little artifacts and air bubbles in the mold and surrounding the position of the c-scar.

But no c-scar.

There was no dimensional c-scar on the original helmet, nor is there in the mold.
For those who would argue that it was cleaned up or worn away over time, that is simply not true.
Not to mention that all the other delicate subtle artifacts that immediately surround the c-scar area have survived very prominently.

Ok, now we've showed ours, let see yours. Time to man up.






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[OldKen]

Oooooooooh SNAPS!

Were gonna need a LOT more popcorn!!!

 

[Trooper_trent]

And there it is.

Thanks Gino

 

[teecrooz]

:thumbsup

I want this mask to come to my house faster.

 

[vaderdarth]

Thanks you kindly gino and thank you Bryan. I'm delighted to finally see it. I see what you are saying about the C-scar and it does correspond to the other Baker derived helmets from what I can see in the photo. I see the landmarks right there.

I'd love to see the UK helmets, though they are presumably from a mould pre-dating the Baker mould made at the time of the Chronicles shoot.

Well done!!!! The two extra tabs shot is a nice bonus

Any pic of the mould of the brow of the dome itself?

 

[Hedjii72]

Woweeee!

Awesome! That's pretty damn convincing.

 

[GromitFan]

Thanks to Gino and Bryan for these images of the mold being posted.
Because we're talking about folks' religion here, I doubt this will end the debate,
though, IMHO, it probably should.

I did not think I could get any more amped about my Limited and Legend purchases,
but now I really feel like I am getting some quite special...

 

[Zombie Killer]

Can you say chocolate puddin'? Yum!!!! Thanks Bryan and Gino. I'm with teecrooz, "come to papa" !!!!!

 

[Hedjii72]

Ok.
This mold surface actually touched the one and only screen used ANH Vader helmet.
Wicked cool.

This just needed to be quoted again. :love