Too Much Garlic
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To satisfy my own curiosity, hopefully eFX will show off these primed prototype pictures in a larger format. Would love to see them better.
eFX A New Hope Darth Vader Helmet
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vaderdarth
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Love to see those myself TMG! 
voice in the crowd
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I know it will never happen but Dave Prowse as well. LFL may not like him but honestly he was the man in the suit in ANH and the fans would love it.
Chris
That reminded me to go back and look at the first photo shown of what might be their master which I had enlarged to study a bit when the thread started since it was the first look, but wanted to wait for better pictures. I noticed the curvature of the right side of the dome flaring being off a bit. Although we don't know if this is the master or one of the copies (or masters?) that were finished and appeared at CC. So it would be good if that could be clarified. And if someone has a better image of the front view that would also be helpful since I just expanded the view to make it easier to interpret, but I can tell from the 3/4 view that the right flaring is turned inward a bit.
I agree, but since LFL would have to approve it, I doubt it will ever happen either. Which is too bad, it would be nice.
clancampbell
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Sith forgive me guys, but i've repainted my ANH helmet in this new scheme and i love it!
Rich
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defstartrooper
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I'd much prefer the tab fittings and the answer why is obvious thats how the original was made i don't want rings or other stuff added i want authentic fittings.
The question of how secure it is to me is of no consequence, this isn't a toy or a costume piece it's a display piece, just how secure do you need it to be to sit in a cabinet or on a shelf or even on a static mannequin ?
The question of how secure it is to me is of no consequence, this isn't a toy or a costume piece it's a display piece, just how secure do you need it to be to sit in a cabinet or on a shelf or even on a static mannequin ?
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Qui-Gonzalez
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Apparently the tabs are not secure at all. You are looking at this all wrong. As Dave said above, as soon as the first "tabbed" helmet gets bumped and breaks the dome, tusks, or any other part of the helmet, the deluge of "FOUL" cries will be overwhelming.
We are not getting tabs. That is pretty much a done deal. Now, as others will likely mod the helmet, I am sure people who WANT those things can do the legwork in finding the accurate tabs (Lotsa luck there fellas) and mod their helmet with those tabs. You would have to have the tooling to make those silly tabs en masse, and frankly, I don't see them doing it. You would need to make thousands of those damned things.
Again, these are NOT designed for the Vader uber geek in as much as they are designed for every person who wants an "As near to perfect as we will EVER get!" Vader.
clancampbell
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I thought Brian Muir had said that the tabs were to connect the front and (rejected) rear halves of the mask???? I didn't think they were anything to do with the dome mount?
Rich
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defstartrooper
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You asked why people wanted the tabs i'm just telling you why i want them. I dont expect them to be on it but thats why i would want them on it.
I also don't expect that whatever system they use will be seperate and easily removed i expect the final production molds to have the mounting system as part of the cast it just makes more logistical sense to have an integral system rather than one that has to be fitted seperately and adds further cost to production.
So i doubt it will be as simple as pulling off whatever mounting system is used and replacing it with tabs for those that want a more authentic piece.
I worked in injection moulding for 10 years i can tell you even with a single impression tool the numbers required for these helmets could be produced in no time at all and very cheaply.
The costs would be in producing the tool and the cost of labour of fitting the tabs and thats probably why they would choose not to go that route i believe a different mounting system will be used for one reason only and thats cost..
I don't buy the idea at all that people will cry foul if they broke their helmet again this is a premium display item it's not a toy it's not for playing with.
The original mounting system used on the original helmet is more than secure enough to stand up for display purposes if it were truly that fragile that if you breath on it it'll fall apart then it wouldn't have been used in the production at all it would have been changed prior to production.
Qui-Gonzalez
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You are likely wrong in your assumption that they are using the tab system on any of LFL's display helmets. It's a display item for some of us, a costumer topper for the rest. You don't have to buy that they would want a secure mounting system to prevent things falling and breaking. Just look at most of the Vaders with lineage. Most of them have the tusk tube ends broken off from some fall or other. One of the Vader domes had the widow's peak chipped on it as well. It happens.
darthjones
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Just reading is all - the only advantage to a tab system perhaps is that you could slightly adjust the "sit" of dome on face from time to time for different looks but it truly does suck. Matter of fact, if I got this and it did have a tab system exactly like ANH I'd be pissed. The rings are great.
I just want to know when these will be available.
(I'm pretending I have disposable income but I don't - I just had the last of a four day old taco plate combo from the fridge. Baja Fresh chicken Americano Taco Combo - held up pretty good.)
I just want to know when these will be available.
(I'm pretending I have disposable income but I don't - I just had the last of a four day old taco plate combo from the fridge. Baja Fresh chicken Americano Taco Combo - held up pretty good.)
defstartrooper
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Really you think costumers are likely to wear this ? even if that were the case thats not what it's sold and produced as it's not a costume piece, it's not designed with costumers in mind at all thats not the market.
And as you said if the diehards want to then they can change whatever system is used for the final piece to tabs then surely the reverse is true and anyone wanting to use it for costuming can add a mounting ring or other mechanism.
And really you're going to attribute every bit of damage to Vader helmets as a direct result of the tab system ?
Stuff gets dropped even if it's just one solid mass thats life people drop stuff you have absolutely no idea or way of knowing what damage occured under what circumstances you're just projecting you're own assumptions.
vaderdarth
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I'm sure the helmet will have to be wearable whether they sell it for that purpose or not. Else half your customer base would disappear. Just my opinioni. In other words, it needs to be both stable and somewhat functional in design.
Qui-Gonzalez
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Yes Gary, stuff DOES get dropped. I am NOT saying every break is thanks to the tabs. I am saying tabs lead to a higher likelihood of breakages in this piece. So again, it makes far more business sense to offer a product with a little less likelihood of being dropped, or breaking, right?
I can GUARANTEE you that costumers will wear this. It is just as assured as Phil recasting it. The market not only goes for prop collectors, but also costumers. To think otherwise is the height of naivete. Hell, for me, it would be the tip top of a display piece. You need it to function as a costume piece to set it on a mannequin.
This Vader helmet is a replica of a costume piece. Not a statue.
I can GUARANTEE you that costumers will wear this. It is just as assured as Phil recasting it. The market not only goes for prop collectors, but also costumers. To think otherwise is the height of naivete. Hell, for me, it would be the tip top of a display piece. You need it to function as a costume piece to set it on a mannequin.
This Vader helmet is a replica of a costume piece. Not a statue.
vaderdarth
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I don't care what you think, I'm poppin that bad boy on my head and tying a towel around my neck for a cape, gonna grab a big long red spoon from the kitchen and stand in the mirror, swinging that spoon around and making that wheezy sound he makes.........LOL because $900 takes a while to collect and I'm getting my money's worth.
Qui-Gonzalez
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A-friggin'-men!
oujala
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Qui-Gonzalez
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SPFX, yes...and a myriad of other eBay names.
Too Much Garlic
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Actually. The tabs are quite secure. It's the popping the dome on and off that's the issue. It is very hard to get them to line up and have the dome sit accurately each time. It is a cause of frustration and I really wouldn't think a licensed company would sell something they know will cause irritation with the buyers.
It is an impractical system.
Until I saw how the tabs actually work and how strongly they bond together I wanted them because hell... it was accurate to the real prop... after experiencing that however... well... let's just say that no way in hell would I use that as a mounting system.
It is an impractical system.
Until I saw how the tabs actually work and how strongly they bond together I wanted them because hell... it was accurate to the real prop... after experiencing that however... well... let's just say that no way in hell would I use that as a mounting system.
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