Too Much Garlic
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Really? Which kind... have been looking all over for a good filler.
eFX A New Hope Darth Vader Helmet
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vaderdarth
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Bryan, if you are listening, I sure would love to see a pic of the Baker mould of the dome in the area of the brow on vader's left. Again, thank you kindly for sharing with us. We are all truly in your debt for doing so. If you cannot share that part of the mould photo, I for one understand. Peace,
Dave
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Qui-Gonzalez
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Guys, let's try and keep it civil.
Carsten, I do not see the C-Scar on the Baker mold. I can clearly see the bottom scratch. I can see the dings around the cheek edges, but there is simply no scar. Especially not to the depth of what is shown on the TM .gif. I see some very crisp edges and that ding near the corner missing on the TM.
Carsten, I do not see the C-Scar on the Baker mold. I can clearly see the bottom scratch. I can see the dings around the cheek edges, but there is simply no scar. Especially not to the depth of what is shown on the TM .gif. I see some very crisp edges and that ding near the corner missing on the TM.
GINO
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Lambotour,
Here is a pic of the original TM after it's had it's paint removed.
Not only is it missing any kind of c-scar, but it's also missing a bunch of other artifacts that you CAN see on the baker mold.
You say those details were photoshopped out. Lets see the non-photoshopped version.
And while you're at it, why not show some of the other pics from that set so we can see that you're not faking it.
PS, it looks like the TM had the **** sanded out of it.
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Here is a pic of the original TM after it's had it's paint removed.
Not only is it missing any kind of c-scar, but it's also missing a bunch of other artifacts that you CAN see on the baker mold.
You say those details were photoshopped out. Lets see the non-photoshopped version.
And while you're at it, why not show some of the other pics from that set so we can see that you're not faking it.
PS, it looks like the TM had the **** sanded out of it.
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Too Much Garlic
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That large picture of the TM that Gino posted was just one step of the stripping process, which was thoroughly documented on The Den back when the work was done.
And why should the C-scar be that visible in the Baker mold? It's there, but it was molded after repair work was made on the mask for the footprint ceremony and Chronicles Shoot. There are very specific details on that repaint that match Baker mold casts.
All these things have been well documented in the many heated debates with SL regarding his helmet - many of which happened right here on this forum. Pictures are likely missing from those threads now, but I seem to recall seeing you post comments in those threads too.
Maybe someone smarter than me can tell me why the Baker mold has the 2 marks under the c located at the edge of the cheek as does the ANH screenshots yet Lambotours TM's marks aren't even near the edge. Nice try guys, looks like your C was added to me. Good job on the tracing bad job on locatin. Sorry Gino still gets my vote.
ave4uevoli
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One day in the distant future someone will get their hands on a screenused vader helmet that has this scar... strip it down and find it's just a stupid hair that got stuck in the paint.
This pics are absolutely awesome though. Amazing that the efx has already spurred a whole new level of discussion and accuracy
This pics are absolutely awesome though. Amazing that the efx has already spurred a whole new level of discussion and accuracy
A curly C shaped hair .....
ArtisanProps
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Yeah I was just thinking the same thing as I looked at the comparison pic..
I'm also curious why JRX would photshop just that one area and leave
all the other details.. I reallize it's not the best pic in the world, but I can
clearly see a lot of other details in the pic Gino posted.
Why so formal gino? I have your number and we've talked on the phone a few times. Last time was about for 4 hours if I remember correctly. You can call me Pete.
Listen, I realize that you are going by what you know based on what you have seen from the Baker mold. What I'm trying to tell you and anyone else that wants to listen, is there are various molds of the screenused vader helmet at different stages. Some molds have more details than others and some of us have various castings from those molds. You are basing your opinion on the Baker mold, that's cool. I have other castings which show more detail and that's what I tried to do here.
I'm not going to argue with you. Keep with what you believe to be true and keep spreading the information you want to spread. I could care less bro. I realize you want to be educated, but it's not my job. Just do your research and good luck with it.
So were are we now.
Helmet warp- Mythbusted
mold degredation- Mythbusted
Flare warp- Mythbusted
C Scar- Mythbusted.
What else do the experts want to know.
Helmet warp- Mythbusted
mold degredation- Mythbusted
Flare warp- Mythbusted
C Scar- Mythbusted.
What else do the experts want to know.
vaderdarth
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Zombiekiller, now I think you too are smoking dope, they are exactly in the same place as the Screen still. It's pretty obvious.
Qui-Gonzalez
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You are probably right, Carsten, in that I have likely posted there. Not until TODAY has anyone on the "inside" ever shown us the Baker mold that fathered the DJ and SL though. Sorry, but that DOES change things significantly. Gino and Bryan put it out there for the showing likely knowing full well that people would still doubt things about the eFX offering.
I am still shaking my head at saying the TM image had the "scar" photoshopped out.
Edit: Pete, there are things in the TM raw casting that give serious weight to this being molded at various stages. The chin vent being jut scribed is chief amongst them. That said, there are details MISSING from the raw, stripped TM that you have on your casting. Namely, the dings and dents along the cheek lines on the stripped versus the snippet of your TM. No one is that good at photoshop.
I am still shaking my head at saying the TM image had the "scar" photoshopped out.
Edit: Pete, there are things in the TM raw casting that give serious weight to this being molded at various stages. The chin vent being jut scribed is chief amongst them. That said, there are details MISSING from the raw, stripped TM that you have on your casting. Namely, the dings and dents along the cheek lines on the stripped versus the snippet of your TM. No one is that good at photoshop.
Oh come on dude, are you going to say the nick moved around from mold to mold? Gimme a break.
Zombiekiller, now I think you too are smoking dope, they are exactly in the same place as the Screen still. It's pretty obvious.
Well if you can't see the 1/16 gap between the Tm's nicks and that the Baker mold and the ANH screenshots show the nicks at the egde i will not argue my lying eyes.
DARTH CHARLES
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Please...Someone can just contact RICK BAKER to ask him about that mould???? im sure he can remember it....lollol
lollol
GINO
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Hey KILLER (I kinda like that name), the discussion was about the C scar. You wanted proof of what the C scar was. I showed you proof, I gave you a very, very detailed explanation of what it is. I show a very clear pic of it and I do a gif lining up the C scar AND I told you I didn't angle the shot perfectly, but yet you and others continue to try and question my integrity?
If it's not enough for you, then I can't possibly show you anymore, nor will I, but you are more than welcome to get with me here in WPB, FL if you are ever here and I'll gladly show you the TM and maybe some of my other castings. Maybe.
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