DS TWOK Phaser-new seperated pic #8

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Cool. It looks like they are doing the ugly box communicator from WOK as well.
 
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I pre-ordered mine from my local comic shop months ago, still anxiously awaiting it! :cool

Some things I'm noticing from the new pics:
  1. No sticker down the side. Since that was part of the original prop, I imagine we'll be seeing it on the final production model, but I guess we'll all have to wait and see. :unsure
  2. Looks like it has a REMOVABLE TYPE 1 phaser! :eek :D:thumbsup
This needs to hurry up and get to my LCS NOW! I've waited long enough already!
 
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Yes, this is the first time the type 1 will be removeable on any TMP/TWOK phaser prop I believe. Just hope they get it to fit a little better.:)
 
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Do we know for sure that the phaser 1 was removeable or is this something they just did for the toy?
 
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Funky Jedi said:
Do we know for sure that the phaser 1 was removeable or is this something they just did for the toy?
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All the various technical manuals over the years have said that it WAS removable, but the props made for the first 2 movies never had a removable Phaser 1/3*, and a separated Phaser 1/3 was never shown on screen. This toy, when it's released, will be THE FIRST replica/prop of this phaser to ever be made with an actual, removable Phaser 1/3. :cool:thumbsup




*I have this vague memory of a technical manual referring to the first movie phaser design as being "Phaser 4" with a removable "Phaser 3", the implication being that the aging phasers 1 & 2 were replaced with these updated models with new numbers. The only flaw in this logic is that the original phaser rifle should have been designated as "Phaser 3". ;)
 
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All the various technical manuals over the years have said that it WAS removable, but the props made for the first 2 movies never had a removable Phaser 1/3*, and a separated Phaser 1 was never shown on screen. This toy, when it's released, will be THE FIRST replica/prop of this phaser to ever be made with an actual, removable Phaser 1/3.
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Note the separation in the center of the phaser body. It corresponds to that found on the DST version. I believe it was always the intention that there be a P1/P2 arrangement.

TWOK
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TMP
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The little card in front says "In stores March '09" $30". Any comments on the color so far? I'm no expert but it looks nice. No screw holes on the right side, nice as well. Is the round buttun on the trigger accurate?
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As you can see in my post above the color is incorrect (it should be a light metallic blue) and the screw holes are all on the left side. :rolleyes As for the trigger, yes, it is accurate to the TWOK phaser.
 
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Zodou said:
Note the separation in the center of the phaser body. It corresponds to that found on the DST version. I believe it was always the intention that there be a P1/P2 arrangement.

TWOK
twokphaserseattle00.jpg
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Oh yes, I know! That's why I mentioned it! The whole idea of the front half being the removable, smaller "hand phaser" is old news. I've known about it for ages now! ;)

But did you see what else you did there? By posting that picture of what appears to be an authentic Wrath of Khan phaser prop, you've just pointed out the inaccuracies in the sculpt of the Art Asylum/Diamond Select Toys version. Compare your pic above to this:
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You can clearly see that the sculpt around the separation point is all wrong. And the handgrip sculpt might be inaccurate, as well. :unsure
 
I just hope the actual run of the toy gets the color closer - all that trouble to engineer a removable P1 for a WOK Phaser, using the correct control graphics, etc., and then use the color of the TMP version.

Does not make sense to me.
 
yes, I know! That's why I mentioned it! The whole idea of the front half being the removable, smaller "hand phaser" is old news. I've known about it for ages now!
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I was just responding to this:

but the props made for the first 2 movies never had a removable Phaser 1/3*,
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If you knew that then why post just the opposite as a statement of fact?

I just hope the actual run of the toy gets the color closer - all that trouble to engineer a removable P1 for a WOK Phaser, using the correct control graphics, etc., and then use the color of the TMP version.

Does not make sense to me.
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I agree. A fact I brought up on another board and I was chastized for being overly critical. Go figure....:rolleyes
 
I hope they do the right color as well. But, I can do a repaint if needed. Did they ever get the colors on the TOS phaser right after all the re-releases?
 
Zodou said:
I was just responding to this:



If you knew that then why post just the opposite as a statement of fact?
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You've obviously misunderstood my earlier post, so I will attempt to explain what I was saying as simply as I possibly can:
  1. The "in universe" answer, i.e. the answer seen in the "Starfleet Technical Manual" that was published in the 1980s, is that IN THE STAR TREK UNIVERSE, the Phaser 1 unit is detachable, just as in the Original Series.
  2. The REAL WORLD answer is that here, IN THE REAL WORLD, none of the props that were produced for the movies had a removable Phaser 1.
That's what I was saying the first time, and I can't make it any clearer than that.
Kevin/Collector said:
I just hope the actual run of the toy gets the color closer - all that trouble to engineer a removable P1 for a WOK Phaser, using the correct control graphics, etc., and then use the color of the TMP version.

Does not make sense to me.
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In regards to the color, comparing the picture posted of the actual movie prop to the picture of the toy prototype, it's very hard for me to make a judgment as to whether or not the toy is accurate in terms of color. The reason? The 2 pictures were taken with 2 completely different cameras (with the original prop having been photographed with an older, lower quality camera) AND under different lighting conditions. The toy may be spot on in terms of color, and the apparent color difference may just be due to the difference in lighting and cameras used.
 
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You've obviously misunderstood my earlier post, so I will attempt to explain what I was saying as simply as I possibly can:
The "in universe" answer, i.e. the answer seen in the "Starfleet Technical Manual" that was published in the 1980s, is that IN THE STAR TREK UNIVERSE, the Phaser 1 unit is detachable, just as in the Original Series.
The REAL WORLD answer is that here, IN THE REAL WORLD, none of the props that were produced for the movies had a removable Phaser 1.
That's what I was saying the first time, and I can't make it any clearer than that.
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Apparently you have misunderstood my post. Look at the pictures. On the TMP version you will see a thin line used to denote a separation plane. It would seem they intended that to be where the two separated. Although it would appear that the TMP prop shown does not separate, that does not prove that none of them could. Now look at the TWOK phaser pic. Notice the separation line in the middle of the phaser, just in front of the clear crystal. It's much deeper and seems to go straight through the phaser. That is where, in the REAL WORLD, they intended the P1 to separate from the P2. Put simply, they made the phaser 1 removable on the REAL WORLD TWOK prop. I have shown visual evidence to support my statements. Where is your evidence supporting your assertion that the (in this case meaning all) phaser props did not separate?
 
Here is the original design for the TMP phaser (the first drawing if from Brick Price the second from Andy Probert)... it was felt that the phaser was "20% too big" so the smaller pistol was designed later.

Both of these designs mention removable Phaser ones.

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