Die Cast Lighted 1/350th TOS Enterprise (TOMY crowd funded)

Email reply from my Contact Us request:

"Your order has been cancelled"

Terse, but I'll take it. No mention of refund, though. I'll be checking my CC status frequently....
 
I'm just thinking that the production pieces probably left the factory in China all at the same time, and we here in Australia just got it first just because we're geographically closer.

I can imagine that the slow boat from China is still in transit to the US west coast.
Funny, the Ernterprise warping out on a slow booat from China.
 
They'd have to refund to another card for me as my previous got compromised.

I have 2 on order, not sure if I want them or to cancel. I'll decide next few days but I'm leaning to cancel.
 
It’s all about what one wants and what it’s worth to them. I enjoy the process of making a thing. Once I get a 3D printer I may never buy another thing as I am a professional 3D modeler and can’t wait to leave a movie or show and only have to wait for me! I am a perfectionist on my models. I don’t get them perfect,lol, I do my best, and seams are something I work very hard on. Some folks don’t bother,glue paint decal done. Fine,if that’s what they want. I see in this thread all the types! Those wh are happy with the final product and on the shelf it goes,those that are already formulating fixes, and those that are canceling. Every action is valid. No persons decision is wrong or right, only right for them. I think that a lot of the pics they used to sell, were the polar lights kit, the seam lines as well as the grid lines on the saucer are some tells, and made me curious, if not suspicious of the final product. Regardless everyone is happy. Except those that cancel,they probably are bummed. To them I say build the kit!
 
Well at least they finally acknowledged it. Should not have taken a month. The designers should have been upfront about it right off the bat and answered emails. Merely stating in that August Update... "a highlight is the plug holes" as if they were well done and trying to backtrack a bit. BUT at least they came through in the end so I will definitely give them credit for that.

Well glad that that's over....:p
 
I now wonder if it weren't for the photos provided by a couple of Australian collectors, would Tomy ever have put out that statement.

Did it force them to put out a statement or was it already planned, but we preempted them?

In either case, I doubt they're happy that units delivered outside of the US got delivered first. As I've got a feeling that without them there would've been a lot less cancellations/returns.

As by the time US collectors received it in hand, there may have been some who may not have otherwise gone through with their orders but decided to keep it rather than go through the effort to box it back up and ship it back.
 
I now wonder if it weren't for the photos provided by a couple of Australian collectors, would Tomy ever have put out that statement.

Did it force them to put out a statement or was it already planned, but we preempted them?

In either case, I doubt they're happy that units delivered outside of the US got delivered first. As I've got a feeling that without them there would've been a lot less cancellations/returns.

As by the time US collectors received it in hand, there may have been some who may not have otherwise gone through with their orders but decided to keep it rather than go through the effort to box it back up and ship it back.
Well the September update was supposed to be more pictures and a look at the shuttles. I'm guessing you are right and the pics here and at the other two sites you guys posted them on altered their plans for the September update and they decided to provide a cancellation option.
 
Well the September update was supposed to be more pictures and a look at the shuttles. I'm guessing you are right and the pics here and at the other two sites you guys posted them on altered their plans for the September update and they decided to provide a cancellation option.

And I only decided to join this forum on the day I received it, as the other two forums I posted to, didn't have that much traffic for this piece.
 
I think that a lot of the pics they used to sell, were the polar lights kit, the seam lines as well as the grid lines on the saucer are some tells, and made me curious, if not suspicious of the final product. Regardless everyone is happy. Except those that cancel,they probably are bummed. To them I say build the kit!

Yeah, I've had both this and the refit kit sitting here for several years now.
At my skill level, I doubt I will get anywhere close to the fit and finish of even this compromised example.

A big concern with the kits has also been nacelle droop, which was one of the appeals here. However I forget that kits for me are more about the journey than the destination.
If they droop after several years, well at least I got the enjoyment of building it and a few years to enjoy it afterward (assuming I can't get them supported properly during the build).
 
Yeah, I've had both this and the refit kit sitting here for several years now.
At my skill level, I doubt I will get anywhere close to the fit and finish of even this compromised example.

A big concern with the kits has also been nacelle droop, which was one of the appeals here. However I forget that kits for me are more about the journey than the destination.
If they droop after several years, well at least I got the enjoyment of building it and a few years to enjoy it afterward (assuming I can't get them supported properly during the build).
These kits aren’t gonna droop and some brass rod can go in to help if you want. Take it slow and anyone can do it.
 
Yeah, I've had both this and the refit kit sitting here for several years now.
At my skill level, I doubt I will get anywhere close to the fit and finish of even this compromised example.

A big concern with the kits has also been nacelle droop, which was one of the appeals here. However I forget that kits for me are more about the journey than the destination.
If they droop after several years, well at least I got the enjoyment of building it and a few years to enjoy it afterward (assuming I can't get them supported properly during the build).


There was a metal skeleton piece offered for the refit, but it was no longer offered by the time I got my refit model. Sucks cause it looked like it would make the model last forever.
 
Haha. Yeah. I'm sure customer emails steered them here...lol

Yeah, I don’t know how I feel about all this. That my photos and posts may have helped cause a significant amount of collectors to cancel their orders. As an Aussie, I‘m rarely ever amongst the first to receive collectables. It‘s either individuals from China or the US who get first crack at pieces. And it’s us here in Australia who sometimes have months of lead time to decide if we want to cancel or not.

Now the shoes on the other foot, and now I’ve got it in hand first (maybe literally). While I’m happy to have it, and have no intention to return it (which I’m not sure is even an option for me); if I had months to decide, I can’t guarantee I would’ve kept my order. If nothing else, just to save the display space, as currently I have the piece sitting on top of an unfinished IKEA cabinet that’s sitting in front of other displays.
 
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Yeah, I don’t know how I feel about all this. That my photos and posts may have caused a significant amount of collectors to cancel their orders. As an Aussie, I‘m rarely ever amongst the first to receive collectables. It‘s either individuals from China or the US who get first crack at pieces. And it’s us here in Australia who sometimes have months of lead time to decide if we want to cancel or not.

Now the shoes on the other foot, and now I’ve got it in hand first (maybe literally). While I’m happy to have it, and have no intention to return it (which I’m not sure is even an option for me); if I had months to decide, I can’t guarantee I would’ve kept my order. If nothing else, just to save the display space, as currently I have the piece sitting on top of an unfinished IKEA cabinet that’s sitting in front of other displays.

Quick question . . . is the saucer section pole absolutely necessary or can it support itself without it?
 
Geez, the pictures are making me rethink keeping mine on order. The paint job just looks - bad. And the stand is kind of killing me too. I don't have a huge problem with the screw covers. Since I have the Master Replicas this one will just not compare. Yeah, I know it's diecast metal and all that but I feel like too many sacrifices were made.
 
Email reply from my Contact Us request:

"Your order has been cancelled"

Terse, but I'll take it. No mention of refund, though. I'll be checking my CC status frequently....
I mean they need to refund you. That's a given. Please let us know if they charge any type of cancellation fee.
 
I bought more than one of these, but I'm concerned about trying to sell one. If all I get back in selling it is what I bought it for, I'd be better off canceling. Also, I don't know the best way to go about selling one if I did. Had Tomy delivered on their promises, I'm sure I would have had no problem reselling. But as the project turned out, it now seems like a giant PITA to me. Who really wants to pay more than $600 for an Enterprise that doesn't represent the filming side of the model? Suggestions anyone?
 
Nice of them to formally give buyers options considering they did not meet their promises or communicate their challenges effectively. A lot of this could have been avoided if they planned their seams logically and communicated it with buyers early rather than keeping it to themselves as long as possible.

Still keeping my order as I'm not going to get any better for 600 bucks but good of them to finally acknowledge it.

also from Steve D. (yeah that guy):
"Oy.
I have been commenting (and warning) about this subject for the last 6 months...
As a product engineer,
I mentioned to everyone that it is almost impossible to fill seams and screw plugs in die-cast zamac, as the differential material joints will just crack over time.
There is no really good filler for zamac that will bond permanently, long-term.
So, if you're thinking you'll get the model and you'll just putty it and repaint it...
You can certainly do that, but, shortly thereafter, all of the seams will magically appear again.
Because of the very large size of the parts, the zamac joints will constantly move under loading and will crack any seams that you fill. And the filler material will eventually start to spall.
This is a very tough model to do in large-scale.
Gary Kerr did a fantastic job with the geometry, layout, and deco, but he is not a product design engineer.
That's why at MR, we engineers designed the model with an ABS shell with a metal reinforcing skeleton. Only the struts were zamac.
Anything else simply doesn't work for this design.
Making it in all die-cast metal is just crazy.
It is extremely difficult (if not impossible) to get a completely even finish on the large, smooth areas, because the hot metal will have a notable shrinkage rate when cast in large sections and first demolded.
And the weight is just ridiculously high. That's a whole 'nother story...
Bad.
Design.
We have 21st century production technology and 100+ years of manufacturing history.
No.
Excuse."
I said the same thing about the seams and so suggested early on that they should have been placed on the opposite side of the ship from the start, regardless of them being filled or not. And I aint even an engineer so I dont know what their excuse is, it's just common sense, different materials experience temperature flexing at different rates. I thought everybody learned that at a young age just from putting water bottles in the freezer and stuff like that!

screw holes on the "display" side was always a mistake, even while they still planned to fill them
 
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