Defined Green Lantern Comic Rings

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Gregatron

Sr Member
Killing time waiting for the test prints to arrive. I’m currently working through the GUY GARDNER series as part of my mega-read-through, and I have a nagging feeling that maybe the Gardner ring shouldn’t be so close in design to the EMERALD DAWN. From an internal logic view, it makes a certain sense—EMERALD DAWN retconned Mark Bright’s ring design into Hal Jordan’s origin and early days, and so the Malvolio/GL Vol. 3 ring became the Post-Crisis iteration of the original Gil Kane design. And, since Sinestro’s ring was supposed to be a yellow knockoff of a GL ring, a design similarity makes sense.

In my most recent design work, I made the Gardner ring identical in size and shape to the GL ring, with the minor differences of that extra setting lip on top of the disc (surrounding the gem), and the Gardner “G” symbol.

...however, as noted, Joe Staton was pretty loose with the size and shape of the ring, and only occasionally drew the disc to look as big as the GL ring’s disc.

So, in anticipation of possible disappointment with the test print, I’m working on a backup, just-in-case alternate version with a smaller disc.

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As I work through GL Vol. 3, I’m being mindful of the occasional (but inconsistent) tweaks Bright made to his GL ring design, such as a flat ring/edge on the convex symbol-disc, surrounding the symbol itself (which simulates the circle/ring surrounding the official versions of the symbol). I tend to skew toward the simpler EMERALD DAWN version, but we’ll see. Maybe I’ll tweak it.

Also, it should be noted that I finally caught up to the issue and panel which made me fall for that design, many years ago—from GREEN LANTERN Vol. 3 # 39. This was early during my initial time with the character, when I was seeking back issues, and that one panel became my “definitive” version of the GL ring, before I came to know all the other versions.

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...and for anyone wondering, my very first issue of GREEN LANTERN was Vol. 3 # 50. Yep, I came in literally when the entire mythos was torn down, and ended up backtracking and exploring everything which came before while also enjoying the new adventures of Kyle Rayner.
 

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Gregatron

Sr Member
Test prints came in. Photos to come soon. I just gave the green rings a shot of emerald paint (since I’ve forgone having them dyed as a cost-saving measure), and they’re still curing.

I haven’t examined them in detail, yet, but I’m very pleased with what I see, at first glance. And my doubts about the Gardner ring appear unfounded. Looks to be about 90% where I want it. I think the tapering of the band might just need a bit of tweaking to make it wider at the bottom and thinner at the top. Maybe not. We’ll see.

More to come.
 

Gregatron

Sr Member
Okay, here we go. Paint’s dry.

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Notes on the designs in order, from left to right:

* The Abin Sur ring and its revised symbol design turned out well. Needs more tweaking. The straight-band V1 also looks good. Both might need new bands, since I went with a pretty basic, flat-sided design.

* I need to spend some time with the 24/25/26mm V1 variants (rings 2-4 in the top image) to get a feel for them. The outer ring surrounding the symbol might need a bit of tweaking to make it a little thicker. In fact, due to the symbol shrinking proportionately a bit as a result of the thicker outer rings on these prints, the 26mm V1 doesn’t look as freakishly big as I’d feared it might be, and it totally eclipses the band in top view, Gil Kane-style.

* Very happy with the Alex Ross design. It works very nicely as a sort of idealized Silver Age ring. Maybe needs a SLIGHTLY thinner symbol-disc. Tempted to get this one printed in silver or something (with my green resin insert) for casual wear, without any green coloration.

* Very happy with the V3, although I still wonder about the thickness between the finger-hole and the upper face of the ring, the amount of curvature on the sides (...should they be a little more vertical and less curvy?), and I’m still debating whether to have the telescoping sidebars slightly taper as they travel down to the bottom of the band (as on this print), or to keep them consistently thick.

* The smaller and sleeker V2 looks great. I need to compare it with the previous iteration as well as the reference material to see if the symbol-section isn’t TOO small. As is stands, the proportions and the tapering of the band are excellent.

* As with the Gardner ring, I do indeed seem to have cracked the code on the EMERALD DAWN ring. This one only needs some slight tweaks in terms of band taper/width and the curvature/height of the symbol-disc. But, the overall design is probably about 80-90% there.

* The REBIRTH ring is virtually perfect. About the only changes needed are a slight tweak to the band curvature in profile, and making a more distinctive separation line between the disc and the band (...which I successfully did on the Alex Ross version in order to compare it with the REBIRTH and see which looked better). As previously noted, the REBIRTH and the Ross are fairly close to identical, but I gave the Ross a beefier look and a bigger symbol-disc to distinguish it from the smaller and sleeker REBIRTH.

* And, finally, the Gardner ring is close to perfect, as noted.

I also need to check the tolerances on the resin insert master pieces. I deliberately went with a very tight tolerance this time (a mere 0.15mm offset between the symbols and their resin-insert negative space) to try and minimize looseness/gaps. I think I may wait to cast them in rubber until I have the actual ring designs locked down, hopefully after the next set of revisions.
 

Gregatron

Sr Member
Beginning revisions.

Tweaking the Gardner and EMERALD DAWN rings to make the symbol-discs a bit thicker/taller and give them some more definition/curviness, as well as giving the rings slightly more robust bands.

Modified designs in gray.

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Gregatron

Sr Member
More tweaks. A lesson of this project is that things may seem great on a computer screen, but it isn’t until you have a physical model in (or on) your hand that the flaws become apparent.

Subtle changes here. The thicker band, the rounder-edged disc with smaller symbol, etc.

Old on left, new on right.

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Gregatron

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Continuing to tweak various designs based on the data from the new prints. Several of them are definitely in the home stretch, I think. Others need some rethinking.

Coming back to the V1, I find myself thinking more and more that the disc eclipsing the band in top view is perhaps not the way to go. Yes, a lot of Gil Kane art features that honkin’ big disc...

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...then again, a lot of art doesn’t.

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As noted, it’s a balancing act in terms of respecting what appears to be Kane’s intent for the design (which was often shifting from issue to issue) and designing a real-world item which is both well-proportioned and aesthetically-pleasing.

More and more, I’m thinking that 24mm might be the magic number for the disc. Also, the height of the disc has been nagging me on the test prints. The discs on the prints just seem to stand a little too tall. The only design where that height really works is the REBIRTH, I think (but not to the ridiculously tall extent of the BLACKEST NIGHT promo rings). I began this project with a consistent height of 5mm for the symbol-discs and the V2 symbol-pieces. That number has slowly been shrinking, over time. Recently, it’s been hovering around 4mm, and closer to 3mm in some cases. I already slimmed down the Alex Ross symbol-disc’s height by about 1/3 after looking at the test print.

Now, I’ve been experimenting with how low the discs can go. 2mm seems too short, at least on my screen. 3D reality might tell a different story. The latest iteration is at 3.25. Here it is compared with the 4mm version (on the left) that I just had printed.

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Smaller and sleeker really does seem to be the name of the game, here, although it can be a fine line between sleek and dainty. That all said, I do want these designs to have SOME substance and chunkiness to them, and to not look like Cracker Jack rings.
 

Gregatron

Sr Member
Continuing to tweak. Playing with symbol-disc diameter/thickness, and ring-band width/shape (now with a curved/“D” cross-section) for the straight-band V1 and Abin Sur.

Here we have the Abin Sur, straight-band V1, curved-band V1 (this variant with a 24.5mm disc, so as to split the difference) and the Alex Ross.

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It’s all just a matter of locking down that ideal symbol-disc diameter/thickness, I think. I’ve tried to keep the disc’s dimensions consistent for the three Gil Kane V1 designs (Abin Sur, straight-band, curved-band), but Kane noticably drew the ring with a smaller disc in the early SHOWCASE and GREEN LANTERN stories. So, I’m wondering if I should keep the dimensions the same across the various iterations, or play fast and loose with them, as he did.

Also, while it doesn’t reflect the current iteration’s tweaks, I must say that I’m rather enamored with my Alex Ross test print. It really does work nicely as an idealized version of Kane’s design. Just the right combination of elegance and chunkiness, as well as the addition of the lighter-green crystal inlay surrounding the symbol (a detail that only rarely appeared in the Kane-drawn comics, which usually just colored the entire ring one shade of emerald green).
 

Gregatron

Sr Member
...as usual, I continue to endlessly vacillate between different design theories for the curved-band V1.

The straight-band version is relatively easy—it’s just a matter of nailing down the disc size, and determining whether or not the disc should sit on top of the band, or be lowered so that it intersects with the finger-hole.

And then there’s my nemesis, the curved-band V1. A proper signet ring (albeit with the separate disc/cap on top of the face (middle), the big disc sitting atop the signet band (left), or the lowered disc intersecting the finger-hole (right), and the band becoming a “U” (with the open ends attached to the bottom of the disc), instead of an “O” shape?


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Gregatron

Sr Member
Picked up a new type of epoxy resin, today, which is supposed to be bubble-free and high-gloss.

And, since my latest revisions to the REBIRTH ring have only marginally affected the diameter of the outer collar of the symbol-disc, I’m proceeding to smooth the resin-insert master from the most recent test print and prepare it for molding.

Once I get to casting, I think I’m gonna start with fluorescent yellow dye, and then slightly tint it with fluorescent green, for more of a lime-green look than I’ve been getting, so far. I’m also wondering if I should mix in glow powder, or just back the clear resin piece with it, so as to not affect the color of the resin. We’ll see.
 
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Gregatron

Sr Member
Experimenting with the new resin, which is much easier to work with than the previous brand.

I mixed up a batch, with the color skewing more toward fluorescent yellow, with some green added (for that lime-green look), and added some glow powder. I poured some of the resin into the new REBIRTH mold I made, and also injected some via syringe directly into the Alex Ross ring’s symbol disc.

I have the feeling that my initial plan— molded and cast masters being glued into the rings—is still the way to go, but direct injection is still a possibility.
 
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