Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

I''m going to see this tomorrow night. I have said before that I think it is going to be ****. I was yelled at for saying it was going to be ****. But I will go in with an open mind and then, if need be I will come back and say if it was **** or not.

I'm the same,.....I just want to see it for the effects etc,.....if it is better than what I am prepared for, then thats a bonus

J
 
I''m going to see this tomorrow night. I have said before that I think it is going to be ****. I was yelled at for saying it was going to be ****. But I will go in with an open mind and then, if need be I will come back and say if it was **** or not.

I'm the same,.....I just want to see it for the effects etc,.....if it is better than what I am prepared for, then thats a bonus

J

You guys must have a boatload of disposable income and time to blow on this kind of thing. Personally, life is too short and I have too many other draws on my time and cash to make it worthwhile to spend a dime on a film that I strongly suspect will be unsatisfying. Once it's on Netflix or something, then I MIGHT check it out. Even then, it'd be a very low priority because, again, I ahve better stuff to do with my time than waste it on a 2.5hr film that will likely leave me unsatisfied.

There's this whole bullspit notion that we have to give movies a chance. What a load of horsepucky. No we don't! I can look at a trailer or read about the buzz surrounding a film and determine, with probably about 95% accuracy, whether I will like that film. In RARE circumstances am I pleasantly surprised. In most instances, the film performs EXACTLY as I expected it to.

If it smells like a turd and looks like a turd, you don't need to taste it just to make sure it isn't actually chocolate.
 
I've spoken to a couple buddies (casual CBM fans) who said this was ASM2 bad, and IM2 was a way better movie. This is the kind of WOM that is making me think twice about even seeing it in the theater, and just waiting for the home video release, no joke. If I can't talk about this movie with my friends during its theatrical run, or if someone spoils it, from what I'm hearing I honestly couldn't care less. And I've actually been looking forward to the trinity on silver screen for a long while.
 
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You guys must have a boatload of disposable income and time to blow on this kind of thing. Personally, life is too short and I have too many other draws on my time and cash to make it worthwhile to spend a dime on a film that I strongly suspect will be unsatisfying. Once it's on Netflix or something, then I MIGHT check it out. Even then, it'd be a very low priority because, again, I ahve better stuff to do with my time than waste it on a 2.5hr film that will likely leave me unsatisfied.

There's this whole bullspit notion that we have to give movies a chance. What a load of horsepucky. No we don't! I can look at a trailer or read about the buzz surrounding a film and determine, with probably about 95% accuracy, whether I will like that film. In RARE circumstances am I pleasantly surprised. In most instances, the film performs EXACTLY as I expected it to.

If it smells like a turd and looks like a turd, you don't need to taste it just to make sure it isn't actually chocolate.

It's not really like that,....I have an old mate who's really,...really keen to see it,....I'm his mate.....I don't want to let HIM down

J
 
There's this whole bullspit notion that we have to give movies a chance. What a load of horsepucky. No we don't! I can look at a trailer or read about the buzz surrounding a film and determine, with probably about 95% accuracy, whether I will like that film. In RARE circumstances am I pleasantly surprised. In most instances, the film performs EXACTLY as I expected it to.

If it smells like a turd and looks like a turd, you don't need to taste it just to make sure it isn't actually chocolate.

I also HATE when people who think you can't pre judge a film based on either - a director and his previous work - actors and their previous work - all the pre release stuff about the film coming out.....

As SOON As I heard Michael Bay was attached to TMNT, I KNEW it was going to suck. Then I heard all the things about him wanting to make them aliens..the leaked early draft script that starred casey and april with guest stars, the ninja turtles....and finally,the nail in the coffin, the early michelangelo kid costume design giving us an idea of what the shrek turtles would look like. After that, I knew this wasn't something I would like. but lots of other people say 'you should give it a chance...' or 'You can't critique unless you see it'

So, in it's fourth week, I DID see it, just to see how bad it was. I almost fell asleep from boredom and groaning at the stupidity.
99% of the time, the vibe I get from a movie is usually spot on from the pre release, to the release..

I knew NOTHING about Guardians of the Galaxy. I didn't even know the property existed. But from the first trailer I Saw, I said...I HAVE to see this! and I wasn't dissapointed.

The first reaction I got from Suicide Squad, and BVS was 'What the.....'
And that's a shame, because I LOVE the characters. far more than any marvel verse character....and the stuff I see WB churning out....
Hell, Brave and the Bold was my favorite animated series since young justice. because you could tell the people putting the series together got the characters and understood what made them tick...either in their own universe, or outside of it.


And young justice had great little throw away jokes. there is one shot that always gets al augh. mrs.martian cooking in the kitchen, conner with egg on his face just sitting watching the TV. Red Tornado walks in, spies the odd scene...and quietly walks out. THAT'S more of what I'd like to see. not grim and gritty and batman shooting guns of all things.

I'll probably go see it late next week when crowds have died down a little..I have a feeling rifftax will have fun with this one referencing Birdemic if one of the oddest lines I've ever heard quoted in a super hero movie proves to be true.
 
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actually this bull**** notion about giving movies a chance can also be reversed. Trailers can be superb yet the movie itself can be less (avengers aou, iron man 3). Has the negative reviews put me of into seeing this? not a chance and ill be happy to "waste" 2.5 hours of my life on this.
 
It's not really like that,....I have an old mate who's really,...really keen to see it,....I'm his mate.....I don't want to let HIM down

J

You may need better friends ;)

Seriously though, he's paying for your ticket right? If not, will he be willing to reimburse you after seeing the film for him?
 
It's not really like that,....I have an old mate who's really,...really keen to see it,....I'm his mate.....I don't want to let HIM down

J

That's fair, I suppose. I'm more just talking about the whole "You can't judge the movie until you see it" attitude. Yes, yes I can judge the movie, because I'm a discerning consumer.
 
actually this bull**** notion about giving movies a chance can also be reversed. Trailers can be superb yet the movie itself can be less (avengers aou, iron man 3). Has the negative reviews put me of into seeing this? not a chance and ill be happy to "waste" 2.5 hours of my life on this.

That's fine, and that's your choice. I mean, it's your 2.5 hrs, and your nickel. My point is more along the lines of when someone says "Wow. this looks like crap" and someone else responds "Oh, well, you can't judge it based on [the trailers/prerelease hype/the creative team behind the movie/etc.]" Sure I can. I can, and I just did.

In my opinion, a big part of why Hollywood cranks out these exercises in expensive mediocrity is because people "give it a chance" at the theater. See, the truth of the matter is that Hollywood doesn't care what you think of the film, once you've paid your $14.50 for tickets or whatever. Once they have your money, it's not like they have any incentive to do better. And whenever you give them money for a ticket to a film that you think looks stupid and turns out to be stupid -- all on the "give it a chance" theory -- all Hollywood sees is "Keep up the good work!" They can make the same thing again, and they know you'll pay for it. The only way that changes is if more people pass on seeing films where they're on the fence.
 
This movie made me question who the hell is in charge to put Zack Snyder at the helm of this movie.

That was the same question I asked when I saw the Dawn of the Dead remake, followed by my swearing to never waste my money at the theater to see any of his films on the big screen again.
 
Watchmen and 300 were SUPER cool movies, and Watchmen was an AWESOME comic book adaption (I know there are a lot of people who will disagree), but that is one of the few movies where I felt like I was actually watching a comic book in moving pictures. I really enjoyed Suckerpunch as well. I've never understood the animosity for Zack Snyder.

I will give MoS to the Snyder haters I suppose. I didn't think it was a terrible movie, but it didn't really blow me away either. It was an ok popcorn film.

All that said, I'm fully expecting this movie to be a big let down.

AND THAT SAID, I don't entirely think that is Zack Snyder's fault. I think DC is putting a HUGE weight on his shoulders trying to make the cash grab to get in on what Marvel has done, without the understanding of how Marvel has done it.
 
Solo4114 horsepucky? bullspit?
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That was the same question I asked when I saw the Dawn of the Dead remake, followed by my swearing to never waste my money at the theater to see any of his films on the big screen again.

Ok well I wish I would have done that sooner. I should have said that after MOS, would have saved me 15 freaking dollars and a rage headache.
 
WB didn't tap Snyder for BvS because they thought he'd do a bad job, c'mon folks. Just thinking out loud here, they must've felt he got some things right in MOS and he could improve on that. They also probably felt he could do Batman justice in a post-Nolan era, which based on some of his past work wasn't a terrible assumption at the time. And I really doubt any studio exec believed Snyder would deliver a 90%+ RT movie; his track record with critics simply doesn't support that. Under reasonable expectations, what they probably were fine with was a popcorn flick with a moderate critics rating (somewhere around MOS), that could get audiences in seats, have enough appeal to a sizable portion of genre fans (like MOS), and lay the groundwork for the DCEU and JL films. Clearly they didn't get most of that, and the jury's still out on how many viewers they can sell this to and how fans will react to future DCEU films.
 
Well I give them props for letting Snyder try something different and not copy the Marvel formula (which I like and clearly works). If it wasn't for the technical flaws I'd be perfectly satisfied with it. I do hope they keep the "editorial line" they chose, with a more adult oriented way of telling stories. I like the recent DC animated, like flashpoint paradox, and it's pretty brutal and adult. I would actually love Flahpoint live action...
 
What exactly is wrong with the Dawn of the Dead remake?! What exactly is wrong with Watchmen? Sure Sucker Punch and 300 are dreck, but Snyder isn't without talent.
 
I will never understand why they don't let the animated guys, who clearly GET these characters far better than the live action or comic book guys do....be in charge of the movie division.

Haha yes this is interesting. I'm not a big DC fan but I loved Justice League, Justice League:Unlimited and Young Justice!
 
I will never understand why they don't let the animated guys, who clearly GET these characters far better than the live action or comic book guys do....be in charge of the movie division.
Imagine a live action batman beyond directed by bruce tim in full control?

Animation and live action are completely different beasts. Tiny handful of people who have done both successfully (i.e. Burton, Spielberg) but it's very very rare, probably why you don't see Lasseter doing live action. But I do agree that the film folks probably should use the animation producers as consultants.
 
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