Barbicon Vader Saber

<div class='quotetop'>(Avalon X @ Jul 21 2006, 03:01 PM) [snapback]1285300[/snapback]</div>
Like the title says, has anyone gotten any closer to figuring out what the base flash is for the Barbicon saber?

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I believe that the base tube and emmiter were machined with the T-track, D-ring, and MPP clamp added later.

Just my 2 cents ;).

I do know it was the inspiration for the ROTS Vader (Blech :eek:, I like it but it could've been WAY better.) and it can be seen on the ROTS DVD in either the "This weapon is your life" webdoc or the props chapter in "Within a minute".
 
<div class='quotetop'>(Avalon X @ Jul 21 2006, 09:22 PM) [snapback]1285478[/snapback]</div>
I agree with all that, but the unit seems like a flash tube. I don't think it was machined, was it?
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All the pics I've seen, especially those of the pommel, do NOT look like a flashgun to me. The main tube has no plug-in holes for flashgun cords either.
 
<div class='quotetop'>(JunkSabers1138 @ Jul 22 2006, 04:34 AM) [snapback]1285483[/snapback]</div>
The main tube has no plug-in holes for flashgun cords either.
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Then what are those circular holes on either side of the "bulb release" then, that have almost the same size as those found on a Graflex?

There is also a small hole near the pommel half obscured by a grip.
 
<div class='quotetop'>(Darth Lars @ Jul 21 2006, 10:34 PM) [snapback]1285502[/snapback]</div>
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The main tube has no plug-in holes for flashgun cords either.
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Then what are those circular holes on either side of the "bulb release" then, that have almost the same size as those found on a Graflex?

There is also a small hole near the pommel half obscured by a grip.
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Hmmm, haven't seen those yet. Got any pics?
 
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I wish the pics were a little lower to see under the clamp, but I'm pretty sure the entire tube is one continuous piece, all the way to shroud, which looks as the box part and the angle cut piece were foirged together. THe holes where the Graflex pin ports would be is vexing.... but I don't think the upper is a Graflex...
 
SWEEEEEEEEEEET. Where'd you get those pics?

I'm still skeptical about this being an authentic flashgun :unsure . Maybe it was machined to LOOK like a flashgun. The holes may have been left over from set screws. And if it IS a graflex, how'd they attach the emmiter in such a way that you can see the plug-in holes in the first place (the other ROTJ prop covers them up slightly) AND on TOP of the saber. Wouldn't the emmiter have no place to attach due to the open curve of the graflex?
 
There was some talk a few years back of the tube possibly being from some hydraulic pump or something... I have a feeling it wasn't from a camera flash though.
 
<div class='quotetop'>(JunkSabers1138 @ Jul 22 2006, 05:01 AM) [snapback]1285546[/snapback]</div>
SWEEEEEEEEEEET. Where'd you get those pics?

I'm still skeptical about this being an authentic flashgun :unsure . Maybe it was machined to LOOK like a flashgun. The holes may have been left over from set screws. And if it IS a graflex, how'd they attach the emmiter in such a way that you can see the plug-in holes in the first place (the other ROTJ prop covers them up slightly) AND on TOP of the saber. Wouldn't the emmiter have no place to attach due to the open curve of the graflex?
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Got these pics from the RPF a while back. Apologies to whoever took them, I don't recall who...

Yeah, not a Graflex, but is it wishful thinking that this could be a Graflite?

perhaps with the flash reversed head to foot so those plug ports would be covered by the grips? Nah, silly....

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I don't think it was a flashgun, but I also don't think it was a custom machined piece either. The detail on the endcap is very distinctive (almost as though it served a purpose for some other function) and the holes on the body also indicate the same thing. If it were a custom machined tube it would have been fashioned to look a lot closer to the previous Vader saber bodies. I definitely think this was a found object.

Ghost Host, I remember that thread. There were like 20 of us searching all over the net for different hydraulic tubes and arms. A few pics indicated endcaps which looked similar and distinctive holes as well. But no %100 match.


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Got these pics from the RPF a while back. Apologies to whoever took them, I don't recall who...

Yeah, not a Graflex, but is it wishful thinking that this could be a Graflite?

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Yes, it is a Graflite. I use as my "stunt-saber" for trooping in my Vader...
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<div class='quotetop'>(Ghost Host @ Jul 22 2006, 06:13 AM) [snapback]1285551[/snapback]</div>
There was some talk a few years back of the tube possibly being from some hydraulic pump or something... I have a feeling it wasn't from a camera flash though.
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I remember that, you took the words right out of my mouth. I agree with DARTH SABER, definately would have looked closer to the preivous ones if they had machined it.
 
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Has anyone noticed the holes halfway covered by the shroud in the second pic? What are those for?
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It looks almost like the hole on a Graflex where you plug in the attachment to the camera, but it has rough edges, like its been drilled and then filed.

However, the hole near the pommel half covered by a grip seem perfectly round and could be where the power cord used to come out from on a flashgun.

The pommel also look like it belongs there and not machined. My theory is that its a modified flashgun.
 
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DS
 
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