Atomic Cafe Sign electronics/wiring question

cayman shen

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I'm thinking of summer projects, and I may tackle the Atomic Cafe sign from Beyond Thunderdome. But I know jack about electricity. I did a little googling: is what I want to do here a parallel circuit? Anyone got some input so I don't kill myself or burn the house down?

(Yes, I know this isn't the one from the movie, but it's a nice clear daytime shot of a very good replica.)
 

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Very cool project. I don't remember much from electronics class at votech so i bought a copy of Electronics for Dummies 3in1, i don't know if it has what you need in it but it might not hurt to grab a copy if you can on the cheap. Even the basic original isn't too pricey and may pay off for other projects.
 
I can pick one up used or see if my library has electronics books I can borrow. Good call. Why didn't I think of that?!
 
Depending on scale, you can get some string lights at Target with 1.5" glass bulbs. I just used a set of 25 to gcreate this oversize Marque lteer for my shop. You could buy a coupls of these and fit them in place.
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I was wondering if I could cheat it with xmas lights or something. I'll have to see if the scale works. Do they come in dif colors? I'd need yellow and red.
 
Oh, and a followup question: anyone got a ballpark idea what that sign is made of? I'd assume wood, but it doesn't look like plywood, and I don't see lines where planks would've been glued...
 
For incandescent bulbs the electronics is simple; two in series will have the same current but half the voltage, two in parallel will have half the current but the same voltage. And you generally want full voltage (although I once rigged a sign for theatrical use that was wired intentionally to run the bulbs at half the voltage).

There used to be Christmas bulb/cafe bulb strings with really large round bulbs on them. I used those a lot of times. Easy to work with; you drill holes in the back of the sign, then hot-glue from the back. But I think all that incandescent stuff is getting tougher and tougher to find these days. There also used to be these really handy screw-on sockets. The socket had a couple of spikes inside, so all you had to do is lay the zip cord inside and screw it down; that made the connection.

If you end up with individual sockets, one way to keep from going quite to crazy is to prep each socket with short pigtails before installing it. Then you just go along from the back and attach each pigtail to a branch line. Still means a whole lot of wire nuts.

And plenty of chances to do what one idiot helper did on a set of mine; he managed to wire four decorative cove-lighting bulbs in parallel-series-parallel-parallel. So one looked okay (just a little dim), two were orange, and the last looked like it was out (but if you looked closely enough you could just barely see the filament was glowing).



(And if you really want to be confused; on another show I used a bunch of 12v halogens -- the kind you see on high-fashion track lighting -- but I was running them off line voltage. So I wired them in series in sets of ten. That brought down the 120V to roughly 12v per bulb. And that worked great, but one day I was making repairs and I bridged one bulb with my fingers. An incandescent light bulb has a resistance in the handful of ohms. Human body is on the order of megohms. Instead of 12v across each lamp and 12v across my careless fingers, it instantly became .0001 volts across each lamp, and 119.999 volts across me.)
 
I...will have to reread that a couple of times! But it just occurred to me: if I have to get a few dozen individual sockets, this thing'll cost a fortune. I'm gonna search for some incandescent light strings...

EDIT: I'll have to check the bulb size and replace the bulbs with the right color (or tint them somehow?!) but is this the right idea? http://www.amazon.com/Globe-String-...07&sr=8-11&keywords=incandescent+light+string

The replica in the pic seems to use clear and red old fashioned xmas bulbs?
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I'm counting 95 bulbs/empty sockets total, so two strands of fifty, with some swapped for reds should do the trick. I feel like this can't be too tough a project if I go the xmas light route...famous last words no doubt. The lettering really glows when the lights are on. Some type of reflective paint perhaps? It seems more obvious in the movie than this pic. Maybe it's just white paint though. This replica uses round bulbs.
 

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Wood would be the easiest to do and just paint it to however you want it. Wood would also help with any shorts caused by using metal. Valor beat me to the christmas light idea. Your local craigslist may have some also. Sorry about the wood/ would puns.
 
Wood would be the easiest to do and just paint it to however you want it. Wood would also help with any shorts caused by using metal. Valor beat me to the christmas light idea. Your local craigslist may have some also. Sorry about the wood/ would puns.

The more I zoom in and study it, the more I think weathered plywood, yeah.
 
OK, I threw this up on an overhead projector and traced it. I had to go a bit smaller than the actual prop since I plan to put this up in my home and it needs to fit the space I'm using. That may mess up the bulb proportions, but whatev. The hanging pic isn't where it'll go but just to illustrate the size.
 

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