Any update on QMX's Mal's gun?

[Qui-Gonzalez]

Congratulations folks.

Here is a prime example of how to get this board examined and possibly shut down.

QMX with all their delays and BS, is still a licensed entity.

SIDKIT is not. This clearly involves the RPF in a loss of revenue to QMX. Provided they actually ever get it done.

So just keep throwing those red flags in the air and lets see if we can get ALL the studios here looking to shut us down.

Thanks.

You usually post intelligent, well thought out comments. What happened with the above? No offense intended. As was stated already, what about all of the items in the JY? Those are ALL licensed replicas, right? Oh, what about the stuff on eBay from people like Portuma....oops, almost said it.

I'm always of the mind that there are already studio folks in here on the QT. These types of name drops would not shut the board down anymore now than it would have in the past in the days before MR. Even when Parks had his flak with LFL over Graflexes, the board remained. That is some serious doomsaying.

All I have read in these threads are posts from irate customers about QMx's lack of CS, condecension towards its customers AND members of this board. Look at it logically, what is going on is piss poor business. I'm sure if people made a big enough stink about licensed products being "manufactured" on pie-crust promises, the licenser would look into the situation.

If Universal holds the rights to Firefly and Serenity, I am sure they wonder why they aren't seeing their "nut" from the license holder.

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

A valid concern.

Not sure which license QMX holds with regard to Serenity or Firefly.

Regardless...what a case of serious irony if QMX actually pursued Sidkits with a C&D…

The licensed company (which cannot give firm dates for completion of their product, lacks customer service skills, belittles their customers, and cannot fulfill orders for past projects like the Dracula Rings) shuts down the bootlegger who is the exact opposite of the licensed company when it comes to customer service, order fulfillment and so on.

Had to fix your color, Dude. It does not show on black.

 

[micdavis]

Of course all the stuff in the JY is unlicensed. DUH!!!! It poses the same threat. But history has shown that if you do not FLAUNT it in the face of a licensee that it has a tendency to be ignored. But to come in here and flat out state you are canceling an order and going bottleg it just stupid.

It's called flying UNDER the radar, not into it.

Get a clue.

 

[dr_slurpee]

Not sure which license QMX holds with regard to Serenity or Firefly.

Regardless...what a case of serious irony if QMX actually pursued Sidkits with a C&D…

I am pretty sure QMx have no Firefly lincenses, only Serenity. I think the only officially licenses Firefly stuff are a couple t-shirts, everything else is from Serenity and Universal.

QMx would doubtfully be able to do anything about Sidkit simply because his is the Firefly version and they only have a license for the Serenity version. Doesn't mean Fox couldn't C&D them though.

 

[Darkknight0667]

If Universal holds the rights to Firefly and Serenity, I am sure they wonder why they aren't seeing their "nut" from the license holder.

Just a quick correction to this: Universal only holds the rights to Serenity - Fox holds the rights to Firefly. Therefore, SidKit is not treading on QMx's Serenity license, since his is the Firefly version.

Seems like Dr. Slurpee is of the same mind as me.

 

[pennausamike]

I am pretty sure QMx have no Firefly lincenses, only Serenity. I think the only officially licenses Firefly stuff are a couple t-shirts, everything else is from Serenity and Universal.

QMx would doubtfully be able to do anything about Sidkit simply because his is the Firefly version and they only have a license for the Serenity version. Doesn't mean Fox couldn't C&D them though.

You are correct relative to the Firefly versus Serenity licensing aspect.
I think it would be a pain for FOX to C&D Sidkit because he is in a foreign country.
But maybe not. Sometimes companies aren't bound by borders, it seems.

That's why I bought my metal Mal RIGHT NOW even tho' I could hardly be in a worse financial state than right now.

Oh, and I bought and paid for my officially licensed Serenity Mal Pistol with Paypal, so I'm not taking any money out of any officially licensed pockets.

Mike

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

Of course all the stuff in the JY is unlicensed. DUH!!!! It poses the same threat. But history has shown that if you do not FLAUNT it in the face of a licensee that it has a tendency to be ignored. But to come in here and flat out state you are canceling an order and going bottleg it just stupid.

It's called flying UNDER the radar, not into it.

Get a clue.

You've been here a skoshy bit longer than I have. How often in that time have YOU seen comments like the one you are so hell bent will bring down the Gods? I know I have seen quite a few. Hell, when Portumac started producing his helmets, I recall people saying they were better and cheaper than the MR.

SDS is another example of unlicensed products openly bartered back and forth on this board. So again, your statements are pretty much the Chicken Little statements of the day. People should openly discuss other options here if they cancel their orders. They are unhappy with QMx and want a Mal pistol. They want options, and they now have them.

Lighten up.

 

[Sidewinder]

Given the (good) price of these two items, any self respecting Firefly/Serenity fan will get both!!

SAS

 

[micdavis]

You've been here a skoshy bit longer than I have. How often in that time have YOU seen comments like the one you are so hell bent will bring down the Gods? I know I have seen quite a few. Hell, when Portumac started producing his helmets, I recall people saying they were better and cheaper than the MR.

SDS is another example of unlicensed products openly bartered back and forth on this board. So again, your statements are pretty much the Chicken Little statements of the day. People should openly discuss other options here if they cancel their orders. They are unhappy with QMx and want a Mal pistol. They want options, and they now have them.

Lighten up.

I have been around too long, to be sure.

I just KNOW that there are personalites that inhabit this hobby who without a doubt in my mind would rat out the folks they hold animosity for, and QMX and SD are defintely folks with a big targets on their backs.

 

[switchblade_slinger]

Of course all the stuff in the JY is unlicensed. DUH!!!! It poses the same threat. But history has shown that if you do not FLAUNT it in the face of a licensee that it has a tendency to be ignored. But to come in here and flat out state you are canceling an order and going bottleg it just stupid.

It's called flying UNDER the radar, not into it.

Get a clue.

I really think that this is silly.

A replica hat maker just got a contract to make the fedoras for the next Indy movie. They were 'openly flaunting' their wares, and the costume designer liked the replica so much that he ordered a barrel full of them.

The 501st is a prime example of where 'openly flaunting' in a GOOD way gets you.

And what kind of mindset does it take to call one fanmade prop a 'bootleg', and another 'authentic'?

Honestly, If I were QMX, I would order the lot from SIDKIT, make like they were MY replicas and tell you all that they were shipping in fifteen days. Plenty of time to repackage and bootleg the bootleg, and all the complaints would be stopped. Easy-frigging-peasy. At least SOMEONE is producing metal Mal pistol replicas at a decent price.

Stop thinking 'under the radar', and try thinking 'out of the box'.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Given the (good) price of these two items, any self respecting Firefly/Serenity fan will get both!!
SAS

So true.

Honestly, If I were QMX, I would order the lot from SIDKIT, make like they were MY replicas and tell you all that they were shipping in fifteen days. Plenty of time to repackage and bootleg the bootleg, and all the complaints would be stopped. Easy-frigging-peasy.

Not possible as it is not the same gun!

 

[defstartrooper]

Sidkit are offering a different gun though a gun that QMx don't have a license for so how's that stepping on their toes ?
For all you know Sidkit may well have deliberately chosen to produce that version in order to not step on anyones toes ?

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

Diatribe? I posted one warning. One. Easy Hoss.

And it was a direct response to someone clearly stepping on the toes of a LICENSED vendor, which is SUPPOSED to command some level of respect here. Not saying it does, just that it is supposed to.

What you did was exactly a diatribe, and continues to be so.

Tell me how the person was "clearly stepping on the toes" of QMx? By cancelling his order and going with another vendor of a similar item? You have a weird definition of stepping on toes. What did he do other than what Steve said to do in his post that he asked to be removed because we were not all kissing his holy feet? He voted with his wallet.

Respect is a two way street and being someone with deep enough pockets to purchase a license does not automatically grant you that respect. Tell me where, in any of Steve's responses to the hard questions here, has he been respectful. No, a license does not grant you respect. Treating your customers like they are valuable grants you respect.

 

[micdavis]

You're wrong.

Being a Licensed Vendor IS SUPPOSED to get you special treatment here at the RPF. I am not saying that is right. But it does.

At least it used to.

Has that offically changed now?

 

[gnrlotto]

You're wrong.

Being a Licensed Vendor IS SUPPOSED to get you special treatment here at the RPF. I am not saying that is right. But it does.

At least it used to.

Has that offically changed now?

Respect is an earned thing. Not a given because you can officially hang a shingle. And when the head of a company comes here and smart mouths and runs people around, they lose that respect.

Or do you not have enough respect for people in a hobby to get that?

 

[exoray]

You're wrong.

Being a Licensed Vendor IS SUPPOSED to get you special treatment here at the RPF. I am not saying that is right. But it does.

At least it used to.

Has that offically changed now?

And it was a direct response to someone clearly stepping on the toes of a LICENSED vendor, which is SUPPOSED to command some level of respect here. Not saying it does, just that it is supposed to.

Please get real... Why don't you take the next 5 minutes and actually read this forum it's 99% based on stepping on someones IP rights be it a vendor that is paying for the rights or the studio that owns the rights...

The simple truth is that just about ANY of the larger studios could close this forum down or cripple it with one quick blow, regardless of this SINGLE issue...

And in truth the studios have shown a clear plan of attack when they make a move, going after the unlicensed vendors making $$$ not the forums... And this doesn't only apply to this hobby but any hobby that infringes on rights, the forums for the most part are left alone...

Also companies like MR have held the SW license for a long time, I sure as hell didn't see anyone jumping in on every "saber", "blaster" or "helmet" thread yelling at everyone to respect the licensed vendor...

 

[exoray]

We haven't removed THIS thread, have we?

That said, usual rules of civility still apply.

Thank you for the clarification...

 

[defstartrooper]

Perhaps i should burn all my stormtrooper helmets and buy myself a Rubies and MR one :unsure
Seriously though i don't see the big issue it isn't even the same prop and as far as QMx not being given respect how many months have members here waited and continue to wait ? how long did those members wait in silence with no complaint ?
One person cancels and decides to buy a different prop from a different vendor big deal.
And as was pointed out QMx openly invited members to cancel their orders if that was their wish.
Seeing as there is no licensed version of the gun being offered by Sidkit there isn't any other option than to purchase the unlicensed one is there ? i don't see how they are treading on any licensed vendors toes

 

[micdavis]

Oh for Pete's sake it's just a hobby.

All I was saying is don't throw up too many red flags....please.

 

[Mechamaniac]

What you did was exactly a diatribe, and continues to be so.

Tell me how the person was "clearly stepping on the toes" of QMx? By cancelling his order and going with another vendor of a similar item? You have a weird definition of stepping on toes. What did he do other than what Steve said to do in his post that he asked to be removed because we were not all kissing his holy feet? He voted with his wallet.

Respect is a two way street and being someone with deep enough pockets to purchase a license does not automatically grant you that respect. Tell me where, in any of Steve's responses to the hard questions here, has he been respectful. No, a license does not grant you respect. Treating your customers like they are valuable grants you respect.

I was going to defend my original post that seems to have started all this fussin' but Qui Gonzalez summed it up pefectly, so I will just say...

What he said.

I voted with my wallet, plain and simple. And I chose to go with something tangible rather than dreaming of a purported masterpiece that has yet to see the light of day.

And by starting your rant about my post, who is the one who threw up the red flag here? And now you want everyone to blow it off? If it was no big deal and "just a hobby" in the first place, then why all the animosity?