An alternative order for viewing the Star Wars OT and prequels

Discussion in 'Entertainment and Movie Talk' started by Knightjar, Mar 7, 2012.

  1. Knightjar

    Knightjar Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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  2. Bootlegger137

    Bootlegger137 Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Interesting concept. Seems to make a degree or 2 of sense. Thanks for sharing that.

    Now...let the debate rage...
  3. steveo

    steveo Sr Member

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    On paper the Machete Order sounds very plausible and kind of exciting, but watching in that order after seeing all the films in release order, won't change my feelings much.
  4. DavidS

    DavidS Sr Member

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    i prefer the "Prequels dont F***ing Exist" order
  5. darthwhitey

    darthwhitey Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Interesting idea. I'd like to try it.

    I'm not saying anything new, but it's just a shame that George couldn't give us three movies that lived up to the first three so we wouldn't have to come up with things like this. :)
  6. cayman shen

    cayman shen Master Member

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    I think it's brilliant and can't wait to try this order. All of his arguments make perfect sense. I actually felt myself getting kind of excited about the whole idea. And I haven't been excited by SW in a looooong time. A long time.
  7. steveo

    steveo Sr Member

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    Haha, (y)thumbsup:thumbsup
  8. DaddyfromNaboo

    DaddyfromNaboo Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I think that exact order was recommended in a thread here in the OT one day after ROTS had hit the theaters ...
  9. SSgt Burton

    SSgt Burton Sr Member

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    So... am I understanding this correctly that the only real reason to view the films in this jumbled order is that Lucas stuck Hayden Christensen's ghost at the end of ROTJ? :lol :behave

    I mean... I get treating the prequels as a "flashback", but a four hour flashback? :confused

  10. Solo4114

    Solo4114 Master Member

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    Careful. That kind of talk ain't tolerated 'round these parts...

    I actually had a similar reaction of "Neat! That might actually be kinda cool. Or at least not as bad." It's an interesting narrative approach, anyway.
  11. cayman shen

    cayman shen Master Member

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    Nah, I don't think that's the only reason (although it makes Hayden's ghost in the ROTJ SE less awful). It's more about putting weaker films where they'll be more effective: immediately showing Anakin's fall after Vader's reveal, rather than spoling it by watching the films in order. Its like the Paris bit in Casablanca :)

    I wonder if it works better with the SE (since if you shuffle them together, the tonal shift would be jarring). Or if you use the OOT, the PT looks even more "idealized fairytale" in comparison. Mmmmmm.
  12. Michael Bergeron

    Michael Bergeron Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    He makes some very valid points.

    This order avoids spoiling the big moments of the films and puts things in better context for someone new coming in.

    Still though, I'm glad I saw them the way I did. There was a time when I was happy to say that there wasn't such thing as a bad Star Wars movie. (Some would argue that but I enjoy all three of the originals)
  13. Kerr Avon

    Kerr Avon Master Member

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    4, 5, 6.

    That is all.
  14. Krull

    Krull Sr Member

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    That...actually works! :confused I think it may sound strange but if you do it that way and remake Ep 1 you could call it a complete series.

    You could also fill in/fix some of the holes in one,like having Sidous mention Maul's death is a surprise but he has another to take his place (for now) and maybe make Anakin a bit older,say ten or eleven and maybe a a bit meaner and less "cute" you could also make the intro to Ep.1 an older Luke going through files to see just what happened and how his father became Vader.

    Hrm...Lucas maybe needs to read this.
  15. Bootlegger137

    Bootlegger137 Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I shared that story around the workplace today, and it got very positive feedback from the "slightly more than casual, but not fanatic nor apathetic" Star Wars fans.
  16. Papa Darth

    Papa Darth New Member

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    This also allows Lucas to market a new boxed set. :rolleyes
  17. Clutch

    Clutch Master Member

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    Beat me to it!
  18. Mr Walker

    Mr Walker Active Member

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    I'll stick to my order.

    IV, V, VI

    That is all.
  19. The Wook

    The Wook Master Member

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    Not for me, Kerr. I'm not a prequel hater, they're kinda cool for what they are--especially III--but they ain't 'Star Wars' in my eyes.

    But neither is VI. So my order is...

    IV, V.

    That is all.

    The Wook
  20. PantheraGem

    PantheraGem Sr Member

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    No one orders me to do anything, alternative or otherwise!
  21. clancampbell

    clancampbell Sr Member

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    My thoughts exactly!

  22. cayman shen

    cayman shen Master Member

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    Oh man, in addition to losing midi-chlorians, skipping TPM gets rid of that stupid Sith rule of two. Seriously, this order is full of win.
  23. Master Dahark

    Master Dahark Well-Known Member

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    I posted this on another forum a couple weeks ago and got mostly positive feedback! Like a couple guys here, I used to be a hardcore SW fan but my interest dwindled more and more with each prequel, until finally I hardly considered myself a fan at all anymore!

    That's why I was fortunate enough to find this so-called 'Machete Order'. It actually got me excited about Star Wars for the first time in a few years!
    * It ignores Episode 1, which was my least favorite (and the guy has a point- it literally brings NOTHING to the series. Nothing but trouble, lol) .
    * It makes II & III more relevant, because we've just found out about Vader and we're more interested in just what the hell happened to make a guy turn into 'that'.
    * It makes total sense to have a big gap between V & VI- V ended with a hell of a cliffhanger, and not finding out how they resolve everything REALLY ups the stakes when you finally get to VI!
    * This guy is so on the ball-- when we get to VI, the first time we see Luke, he's already much more like Vader than the Luke we had known-- I never even put my finger on that before-- this order literally makes ROTJ a BETTER movie! And the perfect ending the the series as a whole

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