WebSlingingHope
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I was just wondering how you make a costume in Photoshop..?
Amazing Spider-man 2 pattern
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The New Blood
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kenlandrum
Sr Member
At the risk of sounding absurd to many, how about this...give your files away for free. This board is a group of many talented folks with common interests and sometimes helping one another out can become contagious. I am not naive,... I realize some people take advantage of this concept and if they do, well, so be it. There are far more benefits to sharing and collaboration.
No offense to anyone... just my 2 cents.
No offense to anyone... just my 2 cents.
chaosprince
Sr Member
I'm glad you started out with this
lol, some people make a living off of patterns, dye subs, face shells, etc.
They spend a lot of time creating these things specifically for themselves, and then generously put them for sale for others who do not have the same skill.
Some people charge $10 for a pattern, some people charger $75, it's all a way to give back to the community as well.
I don't know, I'm kinda glad they don't give em away for free, y'know?
Lunaman
Sr Member
What's your problem, man? How about this…if you don't think artists should be compensated for their work, go spend your time on a different forum. Seriously.
Do you expect the sculptors here to give away their molds and their castings for free? Do you expect seamstresses and tailors here to give away their sewing for free? Why should you expect Orhadar to give away his paintings for free? Just because it's done in a computer doesn't make the work any less skilled or the time spent on it any less valuable.
Honestly. This kind of attitude is just disgusting. It usually only comes from people who've never worked hard on a project themselves. If you had any concept of the amount of work it takes to make something beautiful, there's no way you would be demanding that a person give it away for free. If you do to some degree, then realize that just because you choose to value your time spent on a project as worthless, it doesn't mean that everybody else has to.
It IS sharing and collaboration for the artists here to sell their work, everybody benefits from it--the artists are supported and have incentive to keep making art, and the rest of us have access to their work to make our own projects better.
"No offense to anyone," Well, you said something extremely offensive. Adding some BS words at the end doesn't make what you said any less appalling, ill-advised, or ignorant.
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velazquezn36
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Nothing in life is for free. I bought two patterns from Orhadar, and will be going on three. Sure that's probably a lot of money spent, do I mind? No, I as an artist see talent in his patterns and the amount of work he could put in for making something so creative on a program that I could not.
It's like why would a famous artists hand over his paintings to someone for free, when he spent so much time into it? Some people sell their work for thousands and people will pay up the ace for that, or get in on a bid. No one, should say this person should give away his art for free. You may as well write up a letter to famous artists and tell them they should give out their work for free. I know, I sure as hell wouldn't give anything of mine away for free.
Lunaman couldn't say it any better, selling his files is a way to helping better their projects, I plan on purchasing the same file I bought from him twice, simply because I know I cant make them, and I'm hiring his services, as well as my seamstress, I could try myself but I'd fail.
It is indeed rude to post about Orhadar giving his files for free. Why don't you make a pattern file, spend endless days and hours making it, and you give it away for free, I bet you wouldn't. No offense.
It's like why would a famous artists hand over his paintings to someone for free, when he spent so much time into it? Some people sell their work for thousands and people will pay up the ace for that, or get in on a bid. No one, should say this person should give away his art for free. You may as well write up a letter to famous artists and tell them they should give out their work for free. I know, I sure as hell wouldn't give anything of mine away for free.
Lunaman couldn't say it any better, selling his files is a way to helping better their projects, I plan on purchasing the same file I bought from him twice, simply because I know I cant make them, and I'm hiring his services, as well as my seamstress, I could try myself but I'd fail.
It is indeed rude to post about Orhadar giving his files for free. Why don't you make a pattern file, spend endless days and hours making it, and you give it away for free, I bet you wouldn't. No offense.
kenlandrum
Sr Member
I figured I would get some negativity. That's cool.
Let me clarify things for some of you. Of course an artist should be compensated for his or her work. That goes without saying. If some of you consider this board as a business or money making opportunity, that's fine... I find myself (and many others here) enjoying replica prop building as a hobby. Something to do when the work day is done. I am not demanding anything of anyone. If someone here tries to make a few bucks on the side, great! (that's what the junkyard is for). I would just like to encourage others to share digital files freely if they wish to.
It make the board a better place!
kenlandrum
Sr Member
Hey, I only made a suggestion. Not trying to come off as rude to anyone...
and as a matter of fact I am working on a SM 2002 file. A just found out about "Fabric on Demand" a few months ago and have been working on it since then. You can bet it will be available when it's finished. No offense taken.
Lunaman
Sr Member
Let me clarify something for you, pal. Professionals (and even amateurs) don't only consider their work hours valuable, they consider their TIME and their SKILLS valuable. I value my free time more highly than I do my hourly rate--if I'm working on something in my free time it's worth a great deal. If somebody wants that bit of work for themselves, they would have to pay quite a bit for it. I would probably charge my free time hours to be more along the lines of my overtime rate.
Look, it does not make the board a better place for artists to devalue their time and effort and work by giving it away for free. It makes it simpler for other users to make projects, sure, but it does not make the forum BETTER, because it breeds an atmosphere where people expect something for nothing and, on the whole, an environment where artists are being taken advantage of in the long run. I've been down that road before, and trust me, it does NOT make the board a better place when artists are expected to give away their work for free.
If you want to spread your message of encouraging people to share files freely "if they wish to," then do it on your own thread. It's incredibly rude to come to an artisan's progress thread and tell them they shouldn't be charging what they choose to charge for their services.
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As the surrogate father of the recent boom in spandex pattern printing, let me just say this:
If you think that patterns should be given away for free, make your own. Go ahead. I made a guide that most pattern-makers have used to get their start. It's not all encompassing but covers all of the major points. So check it out and make your own (You really have no excuse not to now) : http://www.therpf.com/f78/thenickfo...ttern-now-even-more-accurater-page-5-a-97460/
If you still feel that patterns should be given away for free after you put in the time and effort making your own, I welcome you to give away your own and report back here.
Just keep these two sayings in mind: There's no such thing as a free lunch...and you get what you pay for. Both apply here.
-Nick
If you think that patterns should be given away for free, make your own. Go ahead. I made a guide that most pattern-makers have used to get their start. It's not all encompassing but covers all of the major points. So check it out and make your own (You really have no excuse not to now) : http://www.therpf.com/f78/thenickfo...ttern-now-even-more-accurater-page-5-a-97460/
If you still feel that patterns should be given away for free after you put in the time and effort making your own, I welcome you to give away your own and report back here.
Just keep these two sayings in mind: There's no such thing as a free lunch...and you get what you pay for. Both apply here.
-Nick
velazquezn36
Well-Known Member
And I'd watch out for people who steal. If you do in fact hand out your files for free, pretty much anyone will A.) Claim the file as their own as many have with orhadars, and taylor mcmanus files, B.) Reproduce prints for their sales as a way of making a profit off your files, its already stressful enough on artists like Orhadar who sells the files and has them stolen. Prepare for what will happen with your files.
TheDodgeMan
Well-Known Member
Nah, Let him post his for free.. We can all just sitback, grab some popcorn, and watch eBay.
Spiderman93
New Member
Thank you. There are some small differences with the real design but I can live with it. It takes forever to paint though. I can post more progression pictures
WebSlingingHope
Well-Known Member
Yo, calm down there Luna. Let him state his own opinion, sure he made a huge mistake making a comment about this on a different person's thread and I agree that he should have started his own... Just, take a chill pill.
Lunaman
Sr Member
That was a day and a half ago, man, I'm quite chill.
TheDodgeMan
Well-Known Member
Woah man! Take it easy webslinger. You don't go tell a guy like Lunamen to take a chill pill. He is basically a God on this forum..
orhadar
Well-Known Member
just now seening all this...I was away for the weekend as I am in the army.
speaking of which...means I'm only home for the weekends, and as lunaman said, free time is very valuable.
and about the money thing, well if I would just make a file for myself and give it for free, the forum will only have my first spider-man file.
that's about the only file I made for myself, the rest I made because people asked me to.
so in my opinion it's ok to pay a few bucks and everybody gets the patterns they want, than to have no patterns at all.
I hate to see such hullabaloo in my threads, and it's like the 5th time Luna fights my battles, so tanx for that Luna, and I'm sorry.
speaking of which...means I'm only home for the weekends, and as lunaman said, free time is very valuable.
and about the money thing, well if I would just make a file for myself and give it for free, the forum will only have my first spider-man file.
that's about the only file I made for myself, the rest I made because people asked me to.
so in my opinion it's ok to pay a few bucks and everybody gets the patterns they want, than to have no patterns at all.
I hate to see such hullabaloo in my threads, and it's like the 5th time Luna fights my battles, so tanx for that Luna, and I'm sorry.
Lunaman
Sr Member
There are printed soles on most of the patterns, but like any spandex suit, if you want to wear it anywhere other than your living room, you will need to attach shoes or soles of some kind.
Ok, so how would one attach a shoe to the bottom of it?
Sorry i am asking so many questions. I an new here, and don't really know anything about this. I am interested in getting a suit, but am just thinking about the logistics of getting it and making it.
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