Am I the only one that thinks Return of the Jedi is a turkey?

[Shade88]

Post.

There is no Palpatine, just the Emperor, Luke is the main character, Yoda doesn't manipulate anyone, Darth Vader has a change of heart and SILENTLY throws the Emperor down that shaft, and for the Love of all things Star Wars: There is NO Episodes I, II, III.:darnkids

That being said, I just look at the Original trilogy at face value, no deep rooted theories. (In my opinion.)

 

[Noeland]

I still wonder what kind of film ROTJ would have been

1. If David Lynch ended up directing it.

2. It maintained the titled REVENGE of the Jedi, and it was actually seen as part of the storyline.

I for one would not mind if the Jedi were allowed to have a little darkness, a little anger, in service of good.

The film, as it is, I enjoyed as a kid. But it was always my least favorite of the originals. Even back then.

 

[Supercostumes]

ROTJ was the beginning of George's fall from grace, there's no doubt about that. I enjoyed the film very much; the Emperor tempting Luke to turning to the Dark side, making a point that fear and hatred can be powerful allies. The redemption of Darth Vader and the end of Luke's journey were very emotional and fulfilling. For me the Ewoks were put in so that George could make more toys. I felt like they had too much screen time and should have had limited roles; the battle of Endor should have been the only time when the Ewoks were on screen for more than 5 minutes. I still champion the original films over the foul demonic ilk that is the prequel series.

 

[Clerval]

Yoda ESB: Don't confront Vader, you're not ready.
Yoda ROTJ: You're almost ready, you just need to confront Vader and then you're set.

Call him on it, Luke. Call him on it.

Nah, what Luke needed to learn to be ready, he learned in getting his ass handed to him... and he knows it. He had a bit to think about over the next year til he did it again. Lesson learned, lucky he survived it. He wasn't ready for the truth, like Yoda said, til he put on his big boy pants and got his head on straight.

Jedi a turkey? No, it's the happy ending, and some may not like that the Ewoks served a role similar to Yoda (WHAT?!?!?! oh no he did not just say that!!!) but it's there. I think Chewie needed to remain a special char. Much more than the Ewoks, I'm more bothered by the Wookiees in the prequels.

Okay, stop spazzing: Yoda's testing of Luke with his demeanor and outright weirdness in ESB underscored Luke's approach to him, how he judged others and their potential. By the time Jedi rolls around, Luke stops Han from making Ewok jerky... he's just got a feeling about things. Looking back, it's a note about Luke's maturity level. ESB: you're an immature fool. You Mr Individual with the Ego go run around and seriously screw things up for the group. ROJ: ah, I see beyond this crap now, let's stop for a moment and see things for what they are, and this will help the group.

 

[ghostryder]

Hulk vs. Ewok - YouTube

 

[robn1]

thumbsup

 

[Ford W Maverick]

Here's my thing, I thought Jedi was the greatest thing ever when I first saw it back in grade school. In retrospect, it's now my least favorite of the OT, but like Vader there IS some good there! I'm solidly in the camp that feels it's only half a movie though.

As for the prequels, this probably isn't going to win me many friends, but I actually LIKE the prequels.

Just not anywhere near as much as I like the originals.

The prequels have their flaws (oh GOD do they have their flaws) but you have to admit there were some cool things in there. Better lightsaber battles, finally getting to see the Jedi in charge, Samuel L Muthaf**in' Windu! There's a lot of stuff in there to like!

There was a lot to dislike too though, which is why they'll never hold the place in my heart that the OT does.

 

[forcesensitive]

I love ROTJ

 

[nonner242]

Ewoks killed it for me. Even back in the day.

 

[OldKen]

I'm just gonna post this a couple times of year....


THE EWOKS DIDN'T DEFEAT THE EMPIRE!!!

They were an annoying diversion.

I didn't love them as a kid... but I "got it".

I will never understand the argument that... "it's dumb that furballs could overthrow the empire!"

They didn't and couldn't.

 

[CessnaDriver]

I'm just gonna post this a couple times of year....


THE EWOKS DIDN'T DEFEAT THE EMPIRE!!!

They were an annoying diversion.

I didn't love them as a kid... but I "got it".

I will never understand the argument that... "it's dumb that furballs could overthrow the empire!"

They didn't and couldn't.

Well what did they do really that was in the critical path?
I guess helped Han out getting the power generator shutdown.
But Han probably could have figured it out without their help.
He never planned on help.

If they had not been captured by the ewoks, he would have been stratagizing just that.
Worst case, he would not have survived without some of the ewok help, but I think the entire team on the ground would have done a suicide mission if that is what it took to kill the shield generator.

So yeah, fuzzy bears did not defeat the empire, but contributed to Solo's successful mission.

Though I suppose it could have been more highly sucessful, he took a long time to do it, causing loss of some massive rebel ships,

This delay caused by Ewok capturing and silliness.

So Ewoks got huge rebel ships blown to bits could be one arguement.