89 Batman - Vale/Joker "gas mask"

Luke0312

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We all know it, we all love it:
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This is actually something I've been working on and off for the past couple of months. I haven't seen anyone do it and I always thought it was a very cool prop. Starting out I did a search on here and could only find one thread on it, someone else searching for the respirator that was used. No replies in the thread so that was a dead end. I looked around at a bunch of different respirators, but couldn't find anything that wouldn't need some work to get it right, so at that point I figured why not just start from scratch. That's what I did.

The first thing was to get a master made for the respirator body. Took some scrap mdf and bondo and started shaping. After a certain point in the sanding, I started hitting some of the mdf that I had used for filler material under the bondo. It sanded a lot slower than the bondo, so things where getting uneven. Here's where I stopped on the master:
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I vacuum formed it, to get a quick cheap mold. In this I poured some plaster as I knew it would be easy to sand and shape quickly. It worked good, very easy to work with and I got it shaped quickly. However, after a second look at reference pics, I realized on the sides of the body weren't smooth, they had a raised area for the inhalation valves to sit. So I cut a washer in half, epoxied it on, and started trying to shape with it. Same problem though, the plaster was sanding extremely fast and the filler on the washers much slower. Here's where I stopped with it (pretty ugly, but I wasn't concerned as this would get taken care of on the next step):
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From this stage, I made a quick cheap latex mold of it. Simple to do and other than taking a couple of days to layer the latex, pretty quick. Also made a quick mother mold out of plaster to help the latex hold it's shape. In the latex mold I used fiberglass to make a body. The body came out fine, but destroyed the mold as I forgot to use any release (no concern though, as I never intended to use that mold again). I started work on the seats for the inhalation valves using some bondo. Got a nice flat surface for it, so shot it with some primer and ended up with this (still needs some light filling and smoothing):
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As for the inhalation and exhalation valves, I went ahead and built them from scratch as well. The exhalation was pretty easy. Started with a CPVC union, filled it with bonded, sanded the ridges on the edges down and took a little off the bottom as it was too tall. Drilled 4 holes into it and here it is:
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Molded it and poured it in smoothcast 300, parts came out pretty clean, but don't have a pic of one unpainted.

For the inhalation valves, they were a bit more work. Couldn't find anything with the right shape so I cut a bunch of rings out of carstock, glued them together, applied resin over top, then filled and smoothed. For the bars I just layered two toothpicks, and the center used a 6 sided pencil:
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Molded the master and was pretty happy with how the cast came out:
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I painted the valves this morning. The only green I had was some lawn marking paint, so I sprayed them with that (will use some other cast for a final paint, but this worked for a color test) Ignore the severe orange peel, it is lawn marking paint afterall:
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For the metal discs on the valves, I found some button covers at an upholstery shop and used those:
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So here's what I'm at with it (just a dab of glue on the parts to hold it together for the pic):
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So... Still got to smooth the body, sand down the backside of the inhalation valves to thin them up, put a good paint job on everything, design a template for the box and build it, then finally make a bow and the cards (honestly the bow worries me more than anything, as I've never even attempted one, haha).
 
This is so crazy, my wife and I threw an 80's themed Halloween party a couple years ago, and this was one of the props we wanted to make. I thought I was the only one! Very awesome!!!
 
I'm not a Batman nit and I think this is such a great prop! Now to source the box...Probably made for production.
 
Thank you, I'm happy with my progress so far.

I was thinking about it some more and believe that when I sand down the backside of the inhalation valves, I'll do just a bit more smoothing on them all over and recast the cleaned up part. For what it started as, the parts came out very clean, but I've got just enough silicone to pour one more mold, so I believe it would be easier and have better results to get just one right, then mold the second to match.

Skarkowtsky, I appreciate the offer, but I'd like to just wind this one up on my own. So far I haven't had help on this. I didn't even use screenshots available online, I pulled all my own at first. I'd like to do this from cradle to grave on my own, to see if I'm capable. I believe I'll use some standard paper to rough up a box for it, break that down, square everything up and get it symmetrical, then use that as a template on some thick cardstock to make the final box.
 
I hear ya' You're on the right track to properly comp the box. If you need any advice for good scoring techniques, give me shout.
 
I'll make them available once I get it completed.

What suprised me about this though is that I've never seen one done. To me it's what a prop is all about. It was obviously custom (they did use an actual respirator, maybe even an orange one, but it was modified), had a close up on screen, and played an actual role in the film.
 
This is a great project and really looking forward to seeing it finished. I had completely
forgotten about this prop and how much I loved it as a kid.
I've done a bit of research and think I've found the right mask.
It's an old 3m 7003 or 7050 half mask respirator (I think). I've just ordered one off eBay.
I've attached an image from the auction, hope it helps.
Good look with finishing off.
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That could very well be it.

Even though I haven't updated the thread, I have made more progress. I got the sanding done on the master, molded it, poured the first cast (though I poured it too thin), and made a rough outer box for it.

Still need to make the inner box, then break everything down to make a template before cutting the final box.

I have more pictures of the progress, actually was ready to post them week before last, but my internet went down for a couple of hours just as I got ready to. Haven't taken the time since then.

Should have some more time in a few weeks to get back on it.
 
Necro bump. I commissioned one of these from Van Lieu, a super talented prop maker who's been doing some projects for me. He did a stellar job. The mask is 3D printed PLA and the box is handmade.

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