2 Sonics for the 2nd Doctor?
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Organic Mechanic
Sr Member
Cool observation here. I like it, and it'll make a nice curiosity in a Sonic Collection. I've only found the modern ones so far though, and the shape is a bit off.
greatwazoo42
Master Member
At least it has the "sonic" part down then. 
Organic Mechanic
Sr Member
Yeah I had to look for ages for it. The modern ones were all I could find, even on ebay! Got one now though. Well, you have to don't you?
Another thing I've noticed. Most of the whistles available now are red. Pat's whistle is clearly not. I may end up having going with the newer body style just to get it in white. I guess it could be painted though, I dunno.
mooneye63
Active Member
I wonder if they were also originally metal?
mooneye63
Active Member
At least it has the "sonic" part down then.
For the screwdriver bit there's the classic picture of him on his own with the Gas hatch open. In his right hand you can clearly see a mini screwdriver. Ha! Now wouldn't that be funny if the original Sonic was just a domestic screwdriver instead of a torch!:lol
Here's the thing...
The Doctor has always had an array of tools, both sonic and otherwise. However unless a tool is referred to as a "sonic screwdriver" there is no honest way to determine what it is. Even if it's used in the exact same way the first sonic screwdriver is still the penlight.
It's a nice little prop to have but to call it a sonic screwdriver isn't right IMHO.
The Doctor has always had an array of tools, both sonic and otherwise. However unless a tool is referred to as a "sonic screwdriver" there is no honest way to determine what it is. Even if it's used in the exact same way the first sonic screwdriver is still the penlight.
It's a nice little prop to have but to call it a sonic screwdriver isn't right IMHO.
Organic Mechanic
Sr Member
Except he (Troughton) repeatedly refers to his Sonic Screwdriver in the scenes where he uses it.
Example from "The War Games"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvhbGGkhKe4
Quote 'The Doctor': This is a Sonic Screwdriver...
Therefor, Sonic Screwdriver, right?
A similar exchange occurs in Fury From The Deep when the Doctor produces the prop in question.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZSOvw8VVVM
Quote 'The Doctor': It's a Sonic Screwdriver. Never fails.
Therefor, Sonic Screwdriver.
It's a dodgy one, but a Sonic none the less.
mooneye63
Active Member
Totally agree Organic, if he says it's Sonic, it's Sonic!
There were some colour pictures discovered during the beach filming of Fury about 15yrs years ago (which I had & now can't find) they may show us the colour of the whistle/Sonic. Anyone got copies they can post up?
There were some colour pictures discovered during the beach filming of Fury about 15yrs years ago (which I had & now can't find) they may show us the colour of the whistle/Sonic. Anyone got copies they can post up?
Organic Mechanic
Sr Member
Great pics!
Victoria's whistle looks to be the same as the one Patrick was holding in the earlier pics. Couple that with the pic of Pat holding a real screwdriver and now the waters have been muddied.
It is possible that they figured nobody would ever look closely enough to notice, but I dunno.
Screwdriver or whistle? Gawd I wish somebody would find the lost video. :/
Victoria's whistle looks to be the same as the one Patrick was holding in the earlier pics. Couple that with the pic of Pat holding a real screwdriver and now the waters have been muddied.
It is possible that they figured nobody would ever look closely enough to notice, but I dunno.
Screwdriver or whistle? Gawd I wish somebody would find the lost video. :/
NTBBCPD
Well-Known Member
Yep, Looks the tow whisles look the same to me as well.
Intresting how the youtube clips show the Doctor talking to Jamie while holding something long and silm, that does not look like the whisle. But then plays the audio of the Doctor saying It's a sonic screwdriver while showing the photo with the whisle.
Out of Context....
Intresting how the youtube clips show the Doctor talking to Jamie while holding something long and silm, that does not look like the whisle. But then plays the audio of the Doctor saying It's a sonic screwdriver while showing the photo with the whisle.
Out of Context....
mooneye63
Active Member
Ah the YouTube clip will be from Loose Cannon recons. They use animation & photo-trickery to produce excellent results from telesnaps & publicity photos. To create new pictures to match the story. That is a mockup by them. I have quite a few of their recons, highly recommended viewing & now all on YouTube or from their own site free. No profit made. Hope I'm allowed to mention that mods?
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mooneye63
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I bought the Orange whistle & on further searches found a white on as seen on Victoria life jacket in the colour picture above.
I was hoping to report more on it re size against the orange one etc, but after a week of being the only bidder, i was pipped at the post due to lack of update from ebay :'(
I may have further news re this ever being a prop... fingers crossed & stay tuned.
I was hoping to report more on it re size against the orange one etc, but after a week of being the only bidder, i was pipped at the post due to lack of update from ebay :'(
I may have further news re this ever being a prop... fingers crossed & stay tuned.
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