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    Dec 8, 2016, 9:12 AM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #176

    Ktaylor said: View Post
    Worked some on the sidewalls, I cut the pegs off the back and sanded them down flush, these pegs float the sidewalls off the frame by about 1/16 inch, so now I can just glue them straight to the metal frame flush and it ends making them deeper into the body which looks good, they were sitting a bit too flush with the edge of the ship...

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    Also I cut back the little insets so they don't sit flush with the plating from the hull making a perfect box for the sidewalls to sit in. Now they have that recessed look that lets the hull plating hang over like on the studio model which looks REALLY cool, one of my favorite parts of the ship. I was bummed when I saw that DeAgo messed it up, but luckily its a super easy fix, as well as getting the sidewalls to sit back deeper into the ship by removing those back tabs, they have been removed in the bottom image below and are flush with the inner metal frame now, so that is about as far back as they are gonna get. I'd like them back a bit more, but it is much better than it was...

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    Here is a compare of the studio model before all the overhang hull plating snapped off ; (
    looks MUCH better IMO glad that was easy!!
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    going to sand down and re-panel and notch those inner plates that I trimmed down next.
    Awesome. I am going to steal this idea as it seemed to me that the wells were not deep enough. I am making a frankenfalcon with some 5 footer details so I am going to be bending the overhangs. I did this on my Fine Molds and I think it really gave it some more character. I have to see about sanding them down a bit, though I'm not sure yet. Again great work all around.
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    4 Weeks Ago  Dec 18, 2016, 4:10 PM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #177

    Rebuilt all the front mandible details with the P34 parts! Totally worth it, looks much better!

    You can see the original DeAgo castings on the left and the updated kit parts on the right!
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    4 Weeks Ago  Dec 19, 2016, 6:38 AM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #178

    I'm glad I've got those parts as I may do the same.

    Also for those who aren't that familiar with the Falcon parts the parts for the mandible end caps are in a few 1/20 Tamiya F1 kits. I was fortunate in that I didn't have to buy the entire kit.
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    4 Weeks Ago  Dec 20, 2016, 5:35 PM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #179

    Reshaped the ring around the cockpit where it stops, had some bad slope to it from the casting process, cleaned it up and rounded the corners. Planted on the little HOOD ship greeble piece and done! Moving on to next area haha, I guess I'm just gonna redo all the plant on stuff, it will take a while but be worth it, looks so much better. I keep forgetting to take before shots!!

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    3 Weeks Ago  Dec 28, 2016, 7:46 PM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #180

    Can anyone help ID this kit part, its looks like its part of something larger that was cut down, but for the life of me I can't find it. It's the last mystery piece I have left on the center block so any help would be much appreciated!!

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    3 Weeks Ago  Dec 28, 2016, 8:47 PM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #181

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    Can anyone help ID this kit part, its looks like its part of something larger that was cut down, but for the life of me I can't find it. It's the last mystery piece I have left on the center block so any help would be much appreciated!!

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    3 Weeks Ago  Dec 28, 2016, 8:59 PM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #182

    YES! Completly overlooked that! Still need that kit as well. Thanks!!
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    3 Weeks Ago  Dec 28, 2016, 10:12 PM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #183

    That kit should be in my hands this Friday. Can't wait to get it.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Dec 29, 2016, 7:15 AM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #184

    Are the mandible end caps avaliable as castings or do i have to buy a whole kit?

    There would be a few parts i could use from the p34 kit yes?
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    3 Weeks Ago  Dec 29, 2016, 9:17 AM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #185

    I'm sure someone has them as castings but you would be better off just buying the whole kit, it's one of the most used kits on the falcon, I would guess off the top of my head 10-15 parts are used off this one kit, probobly more ( I keep finding more and more stuff on it haha), some of the parts are used so frequently you need about 3-4 of these kits to do a full build. They are readily avail on eBay for around 20$.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Dec 29, 2016, 11:54 AM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #186

    Does that kit have a lot of the missing parts from DeAgo's Falcon?
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    3 Weeks Ago  Dec 29, 2016, 12:27 PM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #187

    To my knowledge, the Tamiya 1/35 Panzer Kampfwagen III Ausf. M/N kit does not have any of the missing parts.

    The P34 kit has at least one of the missing parts.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Dec 29, 2016, 1:08 PM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #188

    Ktaylor said: View Post
    some of the parts are used so frequently you need about 3-4 of these kits to do a full build.
    Not if you're me and you have silicone and resin
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    3 Weeks Ago  Dec 29, 2016, 2:00 PM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #189

    dtssyst said: View Post
    To my knowledge, the Tamiya 1/35 Panzer Kampfwagen III Ausf. M/N kit does not have any of the missing parts.

    The P34 kit has at least one of the missing parts.
    Thank you
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    2 Weeks Ago  Jan 4, 2017, 4:20 PM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #190

    Getting a bit further down the road with the kit bashing, I basically decided to just replace as much of the detial as I can, it just looks soo much better and will be much closer to the model used in the film. But man this takes a while! And lots of kits!! I think I have around 30 now?! and seems like there are lots left I need hah. I FINALLY got my hands on an original tooling of the Shinano, can't wait for it to get here!

    removed all the stuff off the top of the cockpit tube, still need a couple kits to finish it out but its close!
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    Going through the back Engine deck, piece.... by...... piece. Those engine cylinders are gonna have to go, I can't stand the profile on them, not sure how they messed that up so bad with so much ref! They just look like rounded off slopes, uuuhhgg,!! Trying to figure out how to mode these side profiles with the proper falloffs and and angles. thinking about trying to sculpt it out with Milliput, REALLY need a lathe right about now, might try to jig it up on my drill press or something, i dunno. They are costly to 3D print though so want to go that route as a last resort...

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    2 Weeks Ago  Jan 4, 2017, 5:49 PM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #191

    Looking good. Obviously a lot of work to do this but the effort is paying off.
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    2 Weeks Ago  Jan 4, 2017, 7:44 PM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #192

    Great work Ktaylor...What would I have to do for casts from your new (old) Shinano??

    Please contact me...
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    2 Weeks Ago  Jan 6, 2017, 2:47 AM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #193

    Great build! A lot of great infos, I'm gonna order the P34 kit and some castings I think for my Falcon too!
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    1 Week Ago  Jan 7, 2017, 2:02 PM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #194

    Hey Taylor, loving your build.

    Quick question to lighting. I see you're going with Woodland Scenics. Thanks for the link, I hadn't heard of them before.

    Are you replacing all the DeAg electrics with Woodland ? Or can you add the Woodland stuff to the existing DeAg board ? The connectors do look similar.

    I'm looking to add a few extra lights. i.e for cockpit and hold mainly. Nothing too much, but the typical additions.

    Would love to hear how you integrated your extra lighting into the existing DeAg system.
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    1 Week Ago  Jan 8, 2017, 9:21 AM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #195

    Thanks Portaler, yeah deago and woodland use the same connectors, I tested it out using their extension cords with the deago supplies mandible lights and it worked great! Just having the dimmers for each light is worth it, to get the light all balanced out, or tweaked for photos
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    4 Days Ago  Jan 16, 2017, 10:44 PM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #196

    Okay I think I have figured out what these little round things are, they were bugging me because they were too fat (center hole is too small) to be styrene rod. I think these are trimmed off this Flak 38/Ah52 Piece! check it out and see what you guys think, if not, they certainly seem to be acceptable donor parts, now I Just have to figure out what that little part is that is above them that buds off that right P34 part....

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    3 Days Ago  Jan 17, 2017, 7:29 PM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #197

    Ktaylor said: View Post
    Okay I think I have figured out what these little round things are, they were bugging me because they were too fat (center hole is too small) to be styrene rod. I think these are trimmed off this Flak 38/Ah52 Piece! check it out and see what you guys think, if not, they certainly seem to be acceptable donor parts, now I Just have to figure out what that little part is that is above them that buds off that right P34 part....

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    The Flak 38/Ah52 parts look good to me man...I think others have said that those parts were from the Tamiya 1/12 P34 but I do not have that kit so can not confirm.

    About the other part you are wondering about...Airfix Scorpion, part 5

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    3 Days Ago  Jan 18, 2017, 1:09 AM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #198

    Oh cool! Thanks! I don't have that kit yet, but will be looking for one soon!

    I was laying out the rear port bay and I think maybe I found that part that is the rounded off box with the hole in the top that the 222 part buds out of, it's off the Morser Karl, it was longer so I cut it in half, it seems to line up perfect, especially with the top of the hull where the pipe comes into the back of it. I haven't seen this part ID'd anywhere and thought maybe it was scratch built, but I'm thinking it maybe this part. It ends up being hollow on the other side since it was cut in half, and I cant find any really clear pics of the other side of it to confirm.
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    2 Days Ago  Jan 18, 2017, 5:26 AM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #199

    Kris, again I think your right on track with that ID for that Morser Karl! It does totally look cut flat like that along the back...I have also never seen any images looking straight at it from behind, but here is a collage of a few images so you can compare with what you have...There also seems to be an under-cut behind there on the images below, if you see what I mean?

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    Can you take a shot facing the cut side? I would like to see how it looks from that angle.
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    2 Days Ago  Jan 18, 2017, 10:14 AM - Re: My first build (deago ESB SS Falcon!) #200

    Yeah that top left pic you posted looks like they putty'd up the hole and blended it into the 222 part..

    here is a reverse angle..that part also has an extrusion around the bottom that I think I can kinda see in a couple of those pics. The other thing that makes me think its this part is that the box slightly tapers towards the top and isn't square which I feel like im seeing in some of the ref I have..

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