My main objection is that the voice that says "Look out!" is male. And has been through all George's tinkering.
--Jonah
--Jonah
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (Pre-release)
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And the other one says "Yes sir."
"Other one"? :confused
very interesting
JD
Master Member
I think it's a brilliant idea. Saying "no more connections" is like saying Rogue One is about some other Death Star that we didn't see in Star Wars and ignoring the quite obvious connections that are already there and not going away.
Mads is a gift that keeps on giving. I have a feeling the marketing of this film is going to make an effort to provide quite a bit of character information and backstory prior to release. Basically the opposite of TFA. I think they will want the audience to know some basic information before going in to make sure people are clear on this films context and place in the film universe.
http://makingstarwars.net/2016/04/m...ic-characters-in-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story/
http://makingstarwars.net/2016/04/m...ic-characters-in-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story/
If it worked, that could be a beautiful moment. I get weepy just thinking about it.
robstyle
Master Member
If memory serves his character was added afterwards during rewrites and reshoots. Production was "troubled" so to say.
I heard the "troubled" part but I had heard about his character at least a long while back.
robstyle
Master Member
His character went from being the lead scientist/developer of the Death Star to her father who is also the same. In writing when she discovers this in her mission the choice comes between betraying family or betraying the Rebellion.
What I had heard Rob...
Was there was a flash back to Gyn seeing her parents taken away by the Empire and her Dad was sort of an Opprnheimer type character.
When discussing good and evil people always try to make the point that when exploring evil that people who are commiting evil acts think they are doing the right thing. What about people who knowingly commit evil and don't care? No one seems to ask that question. It's an interesting idea to explore in storytelling.
There are plenty of people who do mean, cruel, or evil things simply because they want to, even though they are well aware that they are being evil. But from a dramatic standpoint, it is more interesting and nuanced to have an antagonist who is reasonable and good from his own point of view, even though he is bad from the hero's and audience's point of view. There are lots of movies in which the "mustache twirling villain" is apparently evil simply as a plot device to propel the hero to action. Such stereotypical villains have a long history in film and storytelling because there have always been lazy or unskilled writers. That's why people get excited or interested to play villains who have the depth and nuance to be people and not simply villains.
While that is true in many stories, Heath Ledger's Joker from The Dark Knight still had nuance and depth to the character without delving into his origins and not knowing for certain what his motivations or end goals were all the time helped make him one of cinemas most interesting and compelling villains to watch. And he knew full well what he was destroying people's lives going so far as to take pleasure in it. Frank Underwood from House of Cards is another villain who knows exactly what he is doing and yet feels no remorse. He's the kind of character you love to hate. I agree with you though it all comes down to the writing. A purely evil character has to be written and performed just right to be truly effective.
The guys over at Making Star Wars have seen a pic of the Vader suit and describe it in this podcast:
http://makingstarwars.net/2016/05/episode-128-makingstarwars-nets-now-this-is-podcasting/
They also think they know who is in that tank in the trailer.
http://makingstarwars.net/2016/05/episode-128-makingstarwars-nets-now-this-is-podcasting/
They also think they know who is in that tank in the trailer.
Vader, possibly bring put back together after having a bad day.
seelsa73
Sr Member
I hope not. Kinda diminishes the character as we know him.
Depends.
They have already shown Vader badly damaged in Rebels, so the precedent has been set.
Same here. That's why it started to resonate with me and started to ring plausible.
joshvanrad
Sr Member
I really like that possibility.
Having Vader as some sort of reconstructable murder machine seems really cool.
Vader goes in and kills the hell out of 20-30 rebels, while getting shot up a bit. Bring him back, throw him in the tank and he's ready for his next battle- good as new.
Vader goes in and kills the hell out of 20-30 rebels, while getting shot up a bit. Bring him back, throw him in the tank and he's ready for his next battle- good as new.
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