MrSouthpaw
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I grew up watching TNG and the later shows. Lifetime Trek fan. I will not be paying CBS to watch this or buy any of the merchandise.
My wife and I watched this abomination of a trailer. She brought up that this show; if actually set in prime era just did a big reset. She reminded me of an episode where a woman was passed up for promotion to be the first female captain in Star Fleet history... so is this a case of ignore cannon, re-write the timeline or progressive meddling to insure all the boxes are checked? I'll give McFarlane's show a try; at least I don't need to subscribe to some streaming service..
Other non nerd forums I'm on mirrors the not looking good reaction here.
Number One was always female, Robert April was the captain as of the March 11, 1964 pitch document:
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I just watched the trailer, and looked at screen-cap breakdowns on Trek Core. I'm underwhelmed. More Vulcan snobbery/racism, more "new design uniforms," New Coke Trek style window/view-screen, new version of Klingons (huh, really? they evolve like craaa-zeeee). YAWN.
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Huh, I swear I remember roddenberry saying something in an interview somewhere that majel was meant to be captain in one of the pitches, but it would never have been accepted.
Part of The problem with JJ trek is that there is no style to it, no design, no flare. it's all generic sci fi stuff, most made generic thanks to trek and wars oddly enough .
TNG had a very distinctive look. So did Enterprise and Especially DS9. Voyager was more or less a TNG clone.
There is nothing that really sets JJ Trek apart from anything else out there. it could just as easily be galaxy quest.
Technically if you guys are talking about "Starfleet history" not just TOS, then Enterprise had a female captain on the NX-02 Columbia in 2154.
True, but I discount that data point because it's from Enterprise.
I shall keep proselytizing so long as I have breath (or fingers, I suppose) that Enterprise -- despite the official stance from Paramount -- does not work as part of the Prime timeline. From technology to timeline to innumerable fiddly details, it gets more wrong vis a vis everything that came before than what it gets right. On the flip side, it perfectly fits as a prologue to JJ-Trek -- up to and including the model of this show's NX class on Admiral Marcus' credenza in Into Darkness. I am always happy to re-list all the things Enterprise got wrong, should anyone be foolish enough to ask/challenge. *chuckle* I lay Our Heroes' meddling in First Contact as the fission point.
--Jonah
The technology in Enterprise is about a hundred years too early. Phasers and photon torpedoes and transporters decades before prior shows established them being introduced or mounted aboard ships. A top speed that is proportionately too high for the period per all the prior Trek canon. First contact with the Klingons about 70 years early. Plus, if the only other suffixed-registry ship tradition -- NCC-1701 -- is any indication of the carried forward naming that goes with it, NX-01 should have been the Dauntless, per Voyager. And the ship itself has about the same volume as Prime NCC-1701's saucer. With the post-series reit giving it a secondary hull, it's even closer to being an "early Constitution class" than a ship launched nearly a century earlier.
It makes no sense to me that technology utterly stagnated for a century before resuming steady progress again from TOS on through TNG, DS9, and VOY. *shrug*
--Jonah