Riceball
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In addition to that every console and work station on a starship explodes in a shower of sparks whenever they're hit.
Things you're tired of seeing in movies
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p51
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Yep, even if the ship was hit in the opposite end, nowhere near the bridge.
Riceball
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You're so right, I totally forgot about that. It's sort of like how in Trek shields always seem to get stronger the lower their percentage; whenever a (Federation) ship gets hit its shields start dropping by 10% - 15% increments with every hit but once they're down to a critical level like 30% - 40% each hit all of a sudden only brings the shields down by 5% max until the shields are down to like 10% at which time each hit only brings the shields down by .5%.
Solo4114
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That's easily explained. Hero shields are always reduced by 50% of their then-current total. So, shields at 100% which are hit, are reduced to 50%. A second hit will reduce that to 25%. A third, to 12.5%. A fourth to 6.25%, and so on. The end result is that your shields can never be depleted, because even when down to 0.390625%, another hit will only reduce them to 0.1953125%.
p51
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True, and funny how there's always no logic to when a beam weapon or torpedo can punch into a hull, regardless of the shield status...That's easily explained. Hero shields are always reduced by 50% of their then-current total. So, shields at 100% which are hit, are reduced to 50%. A second hit will reduce that to 25%. A third, to 12.5%. A fourth to 6.25%, and so on. The end result is that your shields can never be depleted, because even when down to 0.390625%, another hit will only reduce them to 0.1953125%.
In Star Trek TOS "The Changeling":
SCOTT: Shields still holding, sir.
KIRK: Good.
SPOCK: Temporarily, Captain. Our shields absorbed energy equivalent to ninety of our photon torpedoes.
KIRK: Ninety?
SPOCK: I may add, the energy used repulsing this first attack reduced our shielding power twenty percent.
...
KIRK: Ready photon torpedo number two, Mister Sulu.
SULU: Ready, sir.
KIRK: Fire.
SULU: Torpedo away. (a pause, then a flash) Direct hit.
SPOCK: No effect. Target absorbed full energy of our torpedo.
KIRK: Absorbed it? There must be damage to your instruments, Spock .
SPOCK: They are in good working order, Captain.
KIRK: But what could have absorbed that much energy and survived?
YOU JUST FINISHED TALKING ABOUT HOW YOUR SHIELDS CAN ABSORB 450 OF THEM.
SCOTT: Shields still holding, sir.
KIRK: Good.
SPOCK: Temporarily, Captain. Our shields absorbed energy equivalent to ninety of our photon torpedoes.
KIRK: Ninety?
SPOCK: I may add, the energy used repulsing this first attack reduced our shielding power twenty percent.
...
KIRK: Ready photon torpedo number two, Mister Sulu.
SULU: Ready, sir.
KIRK: Fire.
SULU: Torpedo away. (a pause, then a flash) Direct hit.
SPOCK: No effect. Target absorbed full energy of our torpedo.
KIRK: Absorbed it? There must be damage to your instruments, Spock .
SPOCK: They are in good working order, Captain.
KIRK: But what could have absorbed that much energy and survived?
YOU JUST FINISHED TALKING ABOUT HOW YOUR SHIELDS CAN ABSORB 450 OF THEM.
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somerset fox
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To be fair, this is probably due to bad direction from the 3rd AD on the production, who hasn't given suitable directon to the extras or supporting artists. As an extra myself, who has done this sort of scene, if you're not told to react, then you don't. Otherwise you get the overacting SA who ruins the scene with an over the top reaction.
Solo4114
Master Member
That also applies to background players in battle sequences when you can clearly see that they aren't doing squat. For example, in Braveheart, I seem to recall there are two extras as the battle at Stirling Bridge is winding down who end up just kind of whacking at each others' swords in a half-hearted manner. It's funny, actually (unintentionally so, of course).
p51
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Good point. In the movie, "Gettysburg" you can see several Confederate soldiers following Richard Jordan, playing Lew Armistead is he goes through the broken fence short of the Chambergburg Pike. They're all smiling. I am certain none of those men were smiling uin 1863 at a moment like that!
Solo4114
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Listening to the commentary on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, one of the things they talk about is how good their background players are, and how they used people throughout the run of the show. Playing a background part is difficult in that you still have to be convincing and take it seriously, but you can't treat it as your "big break" and overact to the point where you draw the audience's attention. I suspect that's a LOT harder to do than many people think, and much of it probably also depends on reading the crowd around you, too. What might seem to you to be a perfectly natural reaction could stand out like a sore thumb if you're the only one doing it.
But at the same time, you still need the background folks to take the scene seriously so that they aren't just, like, farting around and laughing amongst themselves in the midst of some battle sequence or whatever.
But at the same time, you still need the background folks to take the scene seriously so that they aren't just, like, farting around and laughing amongst themselves in the midst of some battle sequence or whatever.
NormanF
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BlackKnight247
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When the hero has looked like he has beaten then enemy then everyone cheers and then wham he gets up and raises hell
BlackKnight247
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When there's a countdown from like 3 and 3 seconds later its on two -_-
BlackKnight247
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Oh and to the guy who said he was gonna make a film called cliché and have all the clichés in it, you don't have to just watch a Disney film
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