Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (Pre-release)

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No, he says it. Look.

Luke: If I don't make it back, you're the only hope for the Alliance.​

And she's not much hope for anything compared to him. She botches up the rescue attempt of Solo which Luke had to fix, couldn't convince the Ewoks to not eat her friends which Luke also had to fix. The only thing she does that everyone seems to agree on is choking Jabba to death, which isn't much of a contribution since the Sail Barge was going to be blown to bits anyways. Luke on the other hand? He goes up against the emperor, defeats Darth Vader, doesn't turn to the dark side and successfully pleads to his father to help him. She's not much hope in anything compared to Luke, but since she may one day use these powers, she'll be a good back up.
 
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No, he says it. Look.
Luke: If I don't make it back, you're the only hope for the Alliance.​

And she's not much hope for anything compared to him. She botches up the rescue attempt of Solo which Luke had to fix, couldn't convince the Ewoks to not eat her friends which Luke also had to fix. The only thing she does that everyone seems to agree on is choking Jabba to death, which isn't much of a contribution since the Sail Barge was going to be blown to bits anyways. Luke on the other hand? He goes up against the emperor, defeats Darth Vader, doesn't turn to the dark side and successfully pleads to his father to help him. She's not much hope in anything compared to Luke, but since she may one day use these powers, she'll be a good back up.

And yet in the very same film you quote Han and a bunch of Ewoks knock out the shield generator allowing Lando, Wedge, and non force using pilots to enter and destroy the Death Star. The Emperor and Vader and Luke could have all been killed in that explosion and it still would have been a victory. All thanks to non-Force users. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
 
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Na, I wouldn't think so......The DS doesn't need to be that close for its firing range:D

J

Good point and I guess it's unlikely they'd have a TIE doing a flyover...

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I think I get it plenty. Anyone who isn't a Force User isn't that important. Even Luke thinks of himself as the greatest thing that the Alliance has for winning against the Empire.

Wow. Just...wow.
 
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And yet in the very same film you quote Han and a bunch of Ewoks knock out the shield generator allowing Lando, Wedge, and non force using pilots to enter and destroy the Death Star. The Emperor and Vader and Luke could have all been killed in that explosion and it still would have been a victory. All thanks to non-Force users. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Hardly. If the emperor somehow succeeded, he would have had plenty of time to abandon the station before it blew. Remember that Luke was able to get from the throne room all the way to the the shuttle while practically carrying Vader the whole way. I think the emperor would have made it.
 
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Hardly. If the emperor somehow succeeded, he would have had plenty of time to abandon the station before it blew. Remember that Luke was able to get from the throne room all the way to the the shuttle while practically carrying Vader the whole way. I think the emperor would have made it.

give it up, I just slapped your argument into next week. Your done.
 
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give it up, I just slapped your argument into next week. Your done.

Well if there's a non-force user who has some epic galaxy changing prophecy involving balance or whatnot, you let me know. Until than, Star Wars will always put the Force users in the spotlight for making the big game changes. That's why Rogue One is treated as just a side story that can be filed in the "optional" category since no one, especially whoever Felicity Jones plays is not key enough to be a part of the real stories.
 
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Well if there's a non-force user who has some epic galaxy changing prophecy involving balance or whatnot, you let me know. Until than, Star Wars will always put the Force users in the spotlight for making the big game changes. That's why Rogue One is treated as just a side story that can be filed in the "optional" category since no one, especially whoever Felicity Jones plays is not key enough to be a part of the real stories.

What utter nonsense. Out of all the force users in all the films ONE has a prophecy (not to mention a prophecy that was shoehorned into the prequels). Non force users are absolutely integral to the story in all the films, especially the OT. Luke would be dead how many times were it not for the actions of non force users?

Not to mention, who's calling the shots in the the OT? Not Luke. Sure we see things from his perspective for the most part but he's not running the show. In ROTJ his only contribution to the outcome of that battle is that he pulled his dad's carcass from the Death Star so that it could be cremated. Han, Chewie, and Leia get the shield generator down with their non force troops and some teddy bears and Ackbar, Lando, and non force gang take out a Super Star Destroyer and the Death Star itself.

And to say the side films are "optional" is crap too. They're full cannon. Including any and all female characters. Don't find reasons to be butthurt about it that aren't there.

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Out of all the force users in all the films ONE has a prophecy (not to mention a prophecy that was shoehorned into the prequels).
Finally, someone who understands. You know, you're right. There is a lot to the original movies where non-Force users really show how much they make up the galaxy as a whole. I always gave credit to Return of the Jedi for finally involving aliens in this so-called galactic war when they had no role from the first two films. The least liked film of the trilogy is the one that truly made this war what it was. Epic! And it would be nice to have some finality on just how the Death Star plans were acquired. If there's one area that no one at Lucasfilm seemed to agree on was who stole the plans and how many people it went through before finally ending up with Leia. I think my favorite one is from the original X-Wing game where upon acquiring the Death Star plans, the Alliance come up with a terrific strategy of putting them on one X-Wing, unescorted that just happens to break down while in transit.

Now all I'm worried about is the film's director. I didn't like Godzilla and consider it to be one of the hardest films I've ever had to watch. I'm not being figurative about it either. I can't see what was going on because the action scenes were so dark! If this is Gareth Edwards' way of shooting night shots, I dread what his space shots will look like.

Not to mention, who's calling the shots in the the OT? Not Luke.

To be fair, Luke certainly came off as the person calling all the shots during Han's rescue. That line

Luke: I've taken care of everything.​

Pretty much says it all. He did.
 
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Ohhhh yes I could not be happier with Star Wars right now.This is going to be what I was hoping it would be. Thank you Disney. :)




Ben
 
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Yikes!!!! Disney blocked all the footage of the trailer dead quick!!! I know about the deal over "MI:Rogue Nation" (which is why this wasn't screened live) but still.
And the more I read about who is having input into this the more I am absolutely thrilled by the whole concept. The people involved in the production are simply the best you could get to make a real "Star Wars" combat film. I'm getting a really GREAT feeling about this!!!!!!!
The whole way this entire series is being revived from the dead and managed is beyond my expectations. From the way they have produced and integrated "Rebels" into the storyline for the younger generations, the promises they made for the TFA that with that second trailer they are looking very well capable of delivering on for everybody, and now with "Rogue One" some thing for the senior SW brigades !!! Damn, its impressive, HUGELY IMPRESSIVE!
And I'm just going to ignore the negatives elements that post in these threads from now on. Its not even worth the energy . If you want to snipe from the darkside lines then so be it. You seem to be in a very small corner, mostly on your own. It seems that everybody else involved , most essentially those that are actual making these films are nothing but "true" fans of the original trilogy and beholden to restore and refurbish the new series with every element that nearly all the rest of us loved about it. Like Bryancd has so often said they have been nothing but a force for good in taking what was a essentially a moribund franchise that critically divided generations of its admirers and allowing those same feelings of affection and respect for the OTs that turned so negatively on the PTs to infuse its redevelopment ,refreshing it with great ideas and bring it stunningly back to life.
This Celebration turned out to be exactly what it was supposed to be. A real gathering of Star Wars fans that cheered everybody on , both there and around the rest of the world. Its encouraging those behind the scenes and the cameras making the films to exceed both their and our expectations and you can be damn sure they've listened to the hearts and minds of every fan involved to bring back the magic. The greatest news for me watching this celebration has been that the very best and most talented of all Star Wars fans are actually involved in MAKING the films again. This has not been a chore or an effort for them. This is something done out of deep affection and respect . Which ,I'm sad to say a few people here seem unwilling to give them.
For the rest of us I would think there is nothing but that heighten sense of excitment and adventure again. For which I'm very gratefull.
 
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Good grief, now that I think about it in ANH Luke was saved by Han in the trench and in ESB Lando saved everyone and Luke failed miserably. So the OT is repleat with examples of non-Force users saving the day.
 
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Bail saved Yoda. The Queen got the Gungans to help. Most of the force users died.
 
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Can anyone PM me the teaser? I've been wanting to see this and was incapacitated all yesterday with a stomach bug. Sounds like this will be a good one!
 
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And speaking to the matter of "over-saturation" with Star Wars. One film per year, plus one TV series (potentially two, if rumors of the live-action one pan out) is so very far from Marvel levels of coverage, which I consider about the upper limit -- I can keep up with it, but only just. If it were any more it'd feel like a chore.

--Jonah
 
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Can anyone PM me the teaser? I've been wanting to see this and was incapacitated all yesterday with a stomach bug. Sounds like this will be a good one!

A google video search will still find it. ;)

And speaking to the matter of "over-saturation" with Star Wars. One film per year, plus one TV series (potentially two, if rumors of the live-action one pan out) is so very far from Marvel levels of coverage, which I consider about the upper limit -- I can keep up with it, but only just. If it were any more it'd feel like a chore.

--Jonah

Marvel has WAY passed that saturation mark for me. Gave up long ago. Granted, I wasn't a huge Marvel fan in the first place so my tolerance for it is probably lower.
 
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I am a bit nervous about the over-saturation of Star Wars, but I'm hoping they are starting to see that in Marvel, and will hold back a bit on Star Wars.
 
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