Originally posted by RKW@Feb 11 2006, 04:22 PM
I didn't think Fatherless meant one offs but if he did then I agree the DJ helmet would be the best. But how do we reconcile the narrower neck on it?
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Originally posted by Darth Phaeton+Feb 11 2006, 07:57 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Phaeton @ Feb 11 2006, 07:57 AM)</div><!--QuoteBegin-Ghost Host@Feb 11 2006, 03:14 PM
Yea, if it wasn't coming from Alan I'd say it sounded like a loaded question looking to start sparks.Â
Well, you are entitled to feel this way, but just remember that most of us Vader fans are genuine interested in the HOBBY, and not in the political game and hidden agendas as some of you are, which BTW are giving this Hobby a bad rep.
BTW I have a huge respect for your knowledge, but if you aren't willing to share, don't pass it under our noses, you just make people like me wonder if you really are as blessed as you all claim to be.
Dan
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Originally posted by cking+Feb 11 2006, 04:26 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cking @ Feb 11 2006, 04:26 PM)</div>Have you seen the neck on the ANH helmet used in the ESB teaser poster?
It's VERY narrow.
Chris
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I didn't think Fatherless meant one offs but if he did then I agree the DJ helmet would be the best. But how do we reconcile the narrower neck on it?
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Originally posted by Ghost Host+Feb 11 2006, 04:37 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ghost Host @ Feb 11 2006, 04:37 PM)</div>What... ...did that comment mean? Were you speaking to me? Secrets? I think I come across with more information than most here regarding Vader. Just ask around... or ask me... Blessed? Yes, thank the Lord I am blessed. But that is not subjective. Wheather or not you think I am blessed is completely irrelevant.Â
Originally posted by Darth Phaeton@Feb 11 2006, 07:57 AM
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Yea, if it wasn't coming from Alan I'd say it sounded like a loaded question looking to start sparks.Â
Well, you are entitled to feel this way, but just remember that most of us Vader fans are genuine interested in the HOBBY, and not in the political game and hidden agendas as some of you are, which BTW are giving this Hobby a bad rep.
BTW I have a huge respect for your knowledge, but if you aren't willing to share, don't pass it under our noses, you just make people like me wonder if you really are as blessed as you all claim to be.
Dan
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Originally posted by RKW+Feb 11 2006, 04:39 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RKW @ Feb 11 2006, 04:39 PM)</div>Originally posted by Ghost Host@Feb 11 2006, 04:37 PM
What... ...did that comment mean? Were you speaking to me? Secrets? I think I come across with more information than most here regarding Vader. Just ask around... or ask me... Blessed? Yes, thank the Lord I am blessed. But that is not subjective. Wheather or not you think I am blessed is completely irrelevant.Â
Originally posted by Darth Phaeton@Feb 11 2006, 07:57 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Ghost Host@Feb 11 2006, 03:14 PM
Yea, if it wasn't coming from Alan I'd say it sounded like a loaded question looking to start sparks.Â
Well, you are entitled to feel this way, but just remember that most of us Vader fans are genuine interested in the HOBBY, and not in the political game and hidden agendas as some of you are, which BTW are giving this Hobby a bad rep.
BTW I have a huge respect for your knowledge, but if you aren't willing to share, don't pass it under our noses, you just make people like me wonder if you really are as blessed as you all claim to be.
Dan
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I'm guessing it's refering to the photos that you don't like being shared.
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Originally posted by Ghost Host@Feb 11 2006, 04:41 PM
But I'll add that that the reason I believe this sounded like a loaded question is that it has been asked and discussed at least every month or so here. If a newbie were asking, it would not be as surprising. All the same folks will chime in to say all the same stuff that wa said last month... and the month before that... etc.
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Originally posted by KevVader@Feb 11 2006, 12:13 PM
....and that's what happens in these types of threads. Opinion is sometimes stated as fact....which gets everyone pi$$ed off and flame wars go on for pages.
That was my point.....
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Originally posted by Darth Phaeton@Feb 11 2006, 12:17 PM
So folks, and so called learned, of all things Vader, it's time to drop the cloaks, and share all that you have on this black fella. In the name of education and peace.Â
Dan
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Sounds like my cue.Originally posted by Ghost Host@Feb 12 2006, 01:41 AM
If a newbie were asking, it would not be as surprising.Â
Originally posted by DarthKahnt+Feb 11 2006, 05:07 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DarthKahnt @ Feb 11 2006, 05:07 PM)</div><!--QuoteBegin-Darth Phaeton@Feb 11 2006, 12:17 PM
So folks, and so called learned, of all things Vader, it's time to drop the cloaks, and share all that you have on this black fella. In the name of education and peace.Â
Dan
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Easier said than done Dan. There are a lot of people here with their guards up. I wish it were that simple.
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Originally posted by temponaut+Feb 11 2006, 12:09 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(temponaut @ Feb 11 2006, 12:09 PM)</div><!--QuoteBegin-Ghost HostSounds like my cue.@Feb 12 2006, 01:41 AM
If a newbie were asking, it would not be as surprising.Â
Both the GH and 20th Century ANH buckets look fantastic to me. And CKing's mannequin, combining the 20th mask and GH dome, looks as if it stepped right off of the screen.
So... are the GH and 20th Century ANH helmets really still available?
The thread implies that they are... but I've never actually seen either of these helmets for sale. As far as I can tell, they are no longer in production, which would mean that the only way to get one would be to buy it from a current owner. And I have to think that most owners aren't about to let these go. They seem to be Holy Grails.
If they are available, how would you experts recommend that a collector go about obtaining one? :confused
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Originally posted by RKW@Feb 11 2006, 04:37 PM
I realise that but the one in the film isn't.
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Originally posted by cking+Feb 11 2006, 05:37 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cking @ Feb 11 2006, 05:37 PM)</div>I beg to differ. The close-up shot of Vader's helmet (as he's stepping on Ben's empty cloak) is most definitely a thinner neck.
Chris
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I realise that but the one in the film isn't.
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Originally posted by RKW@Feb 11 2006, 05:59 PM
So you're saying that the width of the GH face mask and chest armour neck opening is too wide?
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Originally posted by cking+Feb 11 2006, 06:37 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cking @ Feb 11 2006, 06:37 PM)</div>I beg to differ. The close-up shot of Vader's helmet (as he's stepping on Ben's empty cloak) is most definitely a thinner neck.
Chris
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I realise that but the one in the film isn't.
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Originally posted by BingoBongo275@Feb 11 2006, 05:59 PM
Yeah - as KevVader said. And just to clarify my earlier post...
IMO Darth Jones' helmet is the most accurate helmet produced, but thus far is a one-off only.
As far as the "20th Century" face is concerned, it was supposedly an ESB helmet although has what clearly appears to be ANH connections on it, hence it was used by.....
1) JB on his "special" ANH Helmet (made after the mark 2 which also sported the same GH recast dome). I dont know how many he made but it wasnt the one I had (a mk2)
2) The VM2 was also a 20thC face along with what imo was a recast GH Dome
3) And finally SPFX used the 20thC face along with a recast GH dome - although I think he said he's copied an original helmet from Timbuktu or somewhere :lol
I'm not passing judgements on these helmets just saying where I believe they derived.
Cheers
Jez
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