Being cutting edge or shock joking is one thing, but there are lines you don't cross without consequences. Jokes about pedophilia is one. It goes beyond bad judgement or bad taste. It's indefensible.
Well you have to judge by their current actions and how the people around him speak.
Show me people who know and work with him who are coming out to slam this “horrible man”. They aren’t... because he’s well loved with those who know him.
I’ve followed him since Guardians and dude is so genuine... I changed my perspective on who I thought he was.
Sorry, but a group of Hollywood insiders coming out to wrap their arms around someone like Gunn doesnt fill me with the greatest of belief in the value of their motivations. The way Gunn and others in that community have jumped on the toxic Star Wars fans bandwagon have displayed that. And before it is raised, Weinstein is a completely different scenario.
Just my opinion, but I think this thread - should it remain open - is probably best served moving away from our opinions on his firing but rather toward its possible effects on the MCU and GotG going forward.
Nudge nudge.
Well if the only opinion matters to you is the court of public opinion... then why even question anything?
You can't trust him
His actions of the last ten years.
The people who work closely with him.
Lifelong friends.
But you can look at Mike Cernovic and crew's agenda to dig up 10 year old tweets to get him fired (because Gunn was sticking his neck out for someone else) and deem him worthless for the rest of eternity.
Well sir, that's a terrible way to look at things. And really, kinda sad.
I literally have no idea why you give a penny to the entertainment industry... You come across like you absolutely hate it.
I just wonder what the outcome would've been if the old tweets had been primarily racist or misogynistic, or gay-bashing in nature.
Hey, I`m focusing strictly on the nature of the disgusting tweets. Just because I dont have that much faith in many of the people who make fortunes off the business and wouldnt use them as a yardstick in how I see life does not mean I hate it. I actually think your attitude to this whole thing is really sad.
I!ll say Taika Waititi. While I don’t see enough in his work to postulate him as the go-to guy for the MCU generally as I’ve seen others propose in various threads, I did watch Thor: Ragnarok again today and was struck by how that film felt most like GOTG of all the MCU films - not only the humor but also the “interplanetary” setting, which wasn’t really done much outside GOTG up until very recently. So I think he’d be a good fit for GOTG 3 to keep it tonally consistent with the prior films.
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Robin Williams was known for taking off his clothes in front of female costars, grabbing their breasts, grinding on them, and all sorts of behaviors that in today's climate would get him immediately shunned. On Whose Line Is It Anyway, on national television, he made a joke about "get off me grandma, I'm done now."
But he's revered, and his off-color brand of humor is celebrated.
I'm not trying to put Gunn at the same level of Williams... but the point is, comedy tends to have a wide latitude in regards to what's acceptable. And that latitude can be greater or smaller depending on the public perception of the performer in question.
Gunn's past Twitter life is absolutely in poor taste. It's not something I find funny at all. But I do understand the "performance" nature of it. It's possible to recognize this as someone looking to create a reaction, versus someone who truly embodies these things. Many of his most offensive tweets, for example, were in the form of retweeting other people and spoofing them by misquoting them in an offensive way (exploiting the way Twitter used to handle retweets).
Whether or not people agree or disagree with his removal from Disney is one thing. His tweets were highly offensive - by design -- there's no disputing that. So the consequences of that are what they are. Personally, I think it's an over-correction on the part of Disney, because they absolutely knew what his past was and they are trying to save their asses in the midst of a merger with a company on the political side currently trying discredit Gunn. But I can also see the point of the people who feel his previous behavior warrants his dismissal.
But there are people in this very thread who are putting him on the same level as actual pedophiles. It baffles me that the notion of performance art, no matter how poorly executed, can fly over the heads of what I assume to be otherwise intelligent people.