Last edited by a moderator:
Was it better than Book of Life? Because that movie was awesome.
A somewhat predictable storyline, with solid animation and decent character chemistry. I enjoyed it, but wish I heard more guitar work.
There was a little weirdness with how the film was presented. One being a hellaciously awful ~30 minute made for TV Disney Frozen “holiday special” which was substituted for the higher caliber Pixar animated short. So bad, 8-10 target marketed kids actually left for drink refills.
Other oddities being an out of place spoken presentation from the Coco film makers. It started with BTS DVD extras pointing out how laborious the city animation work was and ended sadly with them thanking the audience for coming. No, it isn’t sad to thank the audience, but it seemed sad in the wake of recent news events.
I seriously hope Disney never pulls that short Disney Princess/Pixar side cross-contamination crap again on another Pixar release. I liked Frozen, but that short was a visual crime compared to Day&Night, La Luna, Partly Cloudy, etc.
Other than the Day of the Dead thing, I don't see the connection with Book of Life. Totally different stories. Its like saying all movies that take place in NYC are the same.
Oh man that is great news! Thanks, MovieFreak!
I am glad Disney can react in real time. That really speaks well for Disney. The storyline/dialogue seemed like a real rush job.
Also wanted to mention in the middle of the Olaf short, Gad absolutely kills a musical number. I hope Disney releases that song.
Anyway, this is great news, thanks!
Disney has removed the Olaf short!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ex...VED-from-Coco-screenings-Disney-Let-It-Go/amp
Was it better than Book of Life? Because that movie was awesome.
Other than the Day of the Dead thing, I don't see the connection with Book of Life. Totally different stories. Its like saying all movies that take place in NYC are the same.
Agreed, aside from the setting the two movies have nothing else in common. The stories are completely different, where as The Book of Life was a love story, Coco is about family and doing what you love.
I'd strongly recommend setting aside any pre-conceived notions about Coco because of its visual similarity to BoL and just go see it, I doubt you'll be disappointed. My wife and I went to see it Friday because my brother-in-law invited and we previously had no real interesting seeing based on what was shown in the trailer but we came away totally loving it. It was a beautifully animated movie with a wonderful that was very touching and if you somehow manage to come away from it completely dried eyed then you're just not human and are probably the same kind of person who watched Up and didn't get the least bit misty eyed at the beginning.
If you want to extend that logic you can also assume that you have to be a Mexican spirit to return.Photographs have only existed for about 160 years. What did the dead do before that, given that the tradition is older than that?
He has hundreds of coyote spirits to smuggle them in. Duh.An inconsistency with the established rules: Ernesto de la Cruz shows off his horde of offerings from fans. You have to cross over and visit the the ofrendas to collect those offerings. They don't just appear. You have to go get them! He's visited thousands of ofrendas, AND hosted a party AND threw a concert in one night? The dead don't seem to have magic Santa Claus time compression powers...
I think it's safe to assume the photo has to be a headshot. At the border they only scan faces.Also, the extra added McGuffin of getting the real dad's photo back: YOU ALREADY HAVE HIS PICTURE. Okay, the head's torn off. So? Also, getting his picture was only so that he could cross over and visit for one night. The night's about over, there is no point to that anymore. The goal now is to get Coco to remember him so he doesn't, um, die again. You don't need the picture for that!
My family is Asian. I can totally relate to this. Your elders are capable of trashing all your toys if they think it's for your own good, and then appallingly think they can make it all better with food. The grandma in the Mexican family is like the grandma in Asian families - she's the boss of the house and is charged with keeping the house rules and traditions. Only as an adult I can look back and realize how genuinely "messed up" some of this was. I wouldn't know how to rationalize that to some of my friends who didn't grow up with this. I can totally relate.The grandmother's cruelty, although explained, didn't feel redeemed. I'm still not happy with her.
In terms of dramatic tension, yes, it's excruciating. I wish they lopped off 5 seconds from that. But it's also understandable that it might not have occurred to him to sing it at first. Hector only told Miguel what that song really meant with one sentence. Until then the song was always a love song from Ernesto so it needs a while to settle into his brain. Unlike the viewer he didn't have the benefit of that full cutscene of baby Coco being serenaded by papa nor did he have the foreknowledge of music, specifically that song, being a key theme to a story arc.A friend pointed out, and I agree, that we are again ahead of the movie when Miguel comes back and is pleading with Coco. SING TO HER, idiot! Takes forever to get to that moment.
As I said before. I'm in an Asian family. I can testify to how powerful the family influence is. There's always a small part of yourself that believes your elders are right and might just be saving you from yourself. The idea of complete independence from family and being self-made and breaking rules to follow your dreams is purely American.There was some redundancy with Miguel saying a couple scenes in a row that he didn't listen to his family. Also I didn't like the false dichotomy of career=abandonment of family, choose one or the other. This was not resolved, Miguel was simply convinced to give up music (even though he ultimately didn't have to). He was going to allow the bitterness of a decades-dead matriarch continue to put a pall over his entire clan.
I think the presence of an ofrenda confers the power of personal memory to loved ones as well as those who have first hand memories. That works for me.After Coco died, there was no longer anyone living who knew Héctor in life. Should he not have disappeared? By the established rules, they would never be together in the Land of the Dead.
Same. Imagine if T2 began with Arnold going, "Oh hello. I'm Arnold on the set of Terminator 2 where I play a robot sent from the future. We do a lot of incredible stunts and cutting edge CGI. It was great fun making this movie and we're all very proud to present Terminator 2. I hope you enjoy!"I saw it after the removal of the Frozen short, thankfully. But they still left in the live-action bridging segment! It was rather awkward, and it spoiled that great reveal shot of the Land of the Dead.