The scene where Luke Skywalker removes his fathers mask in ROTJ was the greatest experience for me as I was a kid...and that hasn´t changed.
So I was looking for a really accurate ROTJ-Reveal set over the years.But I´ve found nothing...the ketzermask is good...but it has not all details in the mold...so you need to upgrade it if Iwant all details of the original.
To build a Reveal is an own science.The most pics of this prop are made on the SW-expos over the years.There are some very nice shots and detailshots out there..but its hard to say how the mask would look in neutral position.Most times they used thick rubberpieces under the backsides of the mask,complete cloth material under the mask or only put the back of the mask on a platform.
All this methodes adulterates the overall look of the mask.Same with the lights and the flash...so its impossible to find the 100% right color.
But there will be some good shots and positions where you can see the right shape...I will show some of them in this thread later.
I collected over 1000 pics of this prop over the years..some are great others not.But I think I´ve seen most important details of this mask .
So it is on me to build a reveal that looks not like a joke next to the original.I really hope that I can do that.;-)
First I must say THANKS to my good old american friend James for a lot of help with tips,pics and parts.He is a real Vaderexpert and is an owner of a great copy of a ketzermask.Thanks my friend!
I bought an old portumac set years ago.The points that are useful on this mold are the position of the windows for the dynodes,the size of this crown and that he used an old DP DLX Vaderhelmet as the base of his mask.Every of the other details are not really screenaccurate!
It was a lot of work to make the 2 parts inline..but portumacs closing system for the helmet is wrong..but later more
Needs to close all the holes and make the windows correct:
So what is to do?
-The complete shape of the crown is wrong.
-The edge of the crown is wrong
-The nose is too small and wrong shape
-bottom edge of the lower jaw is wrong
-the mask has no rails under the facemask
-and no slots in the lower jaw for the rails
-the round sidetubes are not on the sides of the mask
-the small ramps are not on the lower jawpiece
-the eyebrows are too pointed
-and some other little details that you will see later
Ok...lets start with the new crown...to find out the right size of my disc I used this trick:
All parts I´ve found online from plastruct and others had not the right shape and dimensions..so I used a metaldisc that I´ve found in a hardwarestore.
After cutting the old crown away and sand the rest down to the right height I build it in the mask:
After that really hard way...cutting the big and the 2 small holes in the disc...I used 4 diamond dremel discs and became some burned fingers for that...very hot to cut stainless steel!:eek
The next step is the edge of the disc...its round and not sharp:
And needs to mold the rest of the crown,too:
Here next to the original:
So ok...next step is the nose...that is very tricky to sculpt from hand but I have a ROTJ fiberglasshelmet in my collection to
show the right dimensions.
Ok it starts with a lot of green putty to become the rough and bulky shape on the lot too thin nosearea...
Then starts the sanding and molding...a long process...you need to add very fine material in the spaces because they are
out of shape...
My nose and grooves next to the originals:
So I was looking for a really accurate ROTJ-Reveal set over the years.But I´ve found nothing...the ketzermask is good...but it has not all details in the mold...so you need to upgrade it if Iwant all details of the original.
To build a Reveal is an own science.The most pics of this prop are made on the SW-expos over the years.There are some very nice shots and detailshots out there..but its hard to say how the mask would look in neutral position.Most times they used thick rubberpieces under the backsides of the mask,complete cloth material under the mask or only put the back of the mask on a platform.
All this methodes adulterates the overall look of the mask.Same with the lights and the flash...so its impossible to find the 100% right color.
But there will be some good shots and positions where you can see the right shape...I will show some of them in this thread later.
I collected over 1000 pics of this prop over the years..some are great others not.But I think I´ve seen most important details of this mask .
So it is on me to build a reveal that looks not like a joke next to the original.I really hope that I can do that.;-)
First I must say THANKS to my good old american friend James for a lot of help with tips,pics and parts.He is a real Vaderexpert and is an owner of a great copy of a ketzermask.Thanks my friend!
I bought an old portumac set years ago.The points that are useful on this mold are the position of the windows for the dynodes,the size of this crown and that he used an old DP DLX Vaderhelmet as the base of his mask.Every of the other details are not really screenaccurate!
It was a lot of work to make the 2 parts inline..but portumacs closing system for the helmet is wrong..but later more
Needs to close all the holes and make the windows correct:
So what is to do?
-The complete shape of the crown is wrong.
-The edge of the crown is wrong
-The nose is too small and wrong shape
-bottom edge of the lower jaw is wrong
-the mask has no rails under the facemask
-and no slots in the lower jaw for the rails
-the round sidetubes are not on the sides of the mask
-the small ramps are not on the lower jawpiece
-the eyebrows are too pointed
-and some other little details that you will see later
Ok...lets start with the new crown...to find out the right size of my disc I used this trick:
All parts I´ve found online from plastruct and others had not the right shape and dimensions..so I used a metaldisc that I´ve found in a hardwarestore.
After cutting the old crown away and sand the rest down to the right height I build it in the mask:
After that really hard way...cutting the big and the 2 small holes in the disc...I used 4 diamond dremel discs and became some burned fingers for that...very hot to cut stainless steel!:eek
The next step is the edge of the disc...its round and not sharp:
And needs to mold the rest of the crown,too:
Here next to the original:
So ok...next step is the nose...that is very tricky to sculpt from hand but I have a ROTJ fiberglasshelmet in my collection to
show the right dimensions.
Ok it starts with a lot of green putty to become the rough and bulky shape on the lot too thin nosearea...
Then starts the sanding and molding...a long process...you need to add very fine material in the spaces because they are
out of shape...
My nose and grooves next to the originals:
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