Tron Legacy Movie Review

[tubachris85x]

Having just seen this film a second time, I feel alot more of the story itself has become more clear. I know a whole bunch here didn't like the film, but honestly, I didn't really think it was that bad

I know alot of people were complaining about the Iso's (not sure how it's supposed to be spelled) point in the film. Flynn explains it in an indirect manner, more implying that the DNA of them can be used by man to research and produce cures for dieseases, etc. He mentions how it could change religion-that is explained when he talks about how they were just created on their own, not by him, but the grid's "natural" doing, therefore puts into question the creation of life itself. That's what I got from that particular part, but it was explained, briefly, but still there nonetheless.

I have a few questions though in regards to it all. Was this new Tron grid still part of Encom? It appears that the physical power in the arcade has been shut off, so how would the grid technically still be "active"?

As for CLU's plan to come into the real world, did he plan on sending a whole army into a tiny work room? Would any of their technology that works on the grid even work in the real world? I'll say thats a big question I have for the film...Maybe I'm just over thinking it all...

 

[Organic Mechanic]

Maybe I'm just over thinking it all...

No, I'm pretty sure it was Clu who was UNDER thinking it.

 

[YenChih Lin]

The real potential of the Isos were left as an intended open question to the audience. The grid was completely ported from Encom to a seperate dedicated server at Flynn's - so there's no connection to the Encom servers at the beginning of the movie. Kevin's server might have an independant UPS Uninterruptible Power Supply, which ran 20 years.
Well, Clu's army in a tiny room... that's pretty shortsighted by him to sent an army through the tiny basement... and I don't think, that what works on a grid would work in our world. Besides, that his posse are yet unfamiliar with the world of an User - Jarvis was holding the book wrong the hideout, how would an army cope with the alieness of our world?

Having just seen this film a second time, I feel alot more of the story itself has become more clear. I know a whole bunch here didn't like the film, but honestly, I didn't really think it was that bad

I know alot of people were complaining about the Iso's (not sure how it's supposed to be spelled) point in the film. Flynn explains it in an indirect manner, more implying that the DNA of them can be used by man to research and produce cures for dieseases, etc. He mentions how it could change religion-that is explained when he talks about how they were just created on their own, not by him, but the grid's "natural" doing, therefore puts into question the creation of life itself. That's what I got from that particular part, but it was explained, briefly, but still there nonetheless.

I have a few questions though in regards to it all. Was this new Tron grid still part of Encom? It appears that the physical power in the arcade has been shut off, so how would the grid technically still be "active"?

As for CLU's plan to come into the real world, did he plan on sending a whole army into a tiny work room? Would any of their technology that works on the grid even work in the real world? I'll say thats a big question I have for the film...Maybe I'm just over thinking it all...

 

[twinight]

The breakers for the games and lights were off, but the building still had electrical service, otherwise Sam would not been able to turn anything on. The basement was on a separate panel that was never shut off. But who paid the electrical bill to keep the service running in Kevin's absence?

 

[Clutch]

I can see the army materializing in the basement all bumping into each other clueless. Lol! I also think that once the newness wears off for Quorra, she will be like Agent Smith - "I hate this place. This zoo. This prison. This reality, whatever you want to call it, I can't stand it any longer. It's the smell, if there is such a thing. I feel saturated by it. I can taste your stink and every time I do, I fear that I've somehow been infected by it."

 

[frosty]

I saw it with my son last night, thought it was great, a worthy sequel.
Young Jeff bridges was just awfull, is that state of the art fx really? reminded me of the final fantasy films.
Hope they do another one.

 

[Larry Young]

The basement was on a separate panel that was never shut off. But who paid the electrical bill to keep the service running in Kevin's absence?

Seems like Alan Bradley knew everything that was going on, so why not pay a small light bill?

SAM: You sound like I'm going to find him working at his desk. "Sorry, kiddo; lost track of time."

ALAN (off a small, knowing smirk): Wouldn't that be something.

I don't even think there was a page to incite the incident. Clu didn't know what Sam was talking about, and Kevin said he didn't send it. I think Alan just said he got the page to light a fire under Sam.

 

[OldKen]

I can see the army materializing in the basement all bumping into each other clueless. Lol! I also think that once the newness wears off for Quorra, she will be like Agent Smith - "I hate this place. This zoo. This prison. This reality, whatever you want to call it, I can't stand it any longer. It's the smell, if there is such a thing. I feel saturated by it. I can taste your stink and every time I do, I fear that I've somehow been infected by it."

I kind of like that thought. At first she is mezmerized by it, the beauty and "realness" of the user world. Just like we see at the end of TL.

But by the next one, after seeing all the evil and dirtyness that is our world, she longs to be back on the grid.

Would give it a really interesting twist to CLU's wanting to "get out". Kinda a grass is greener type thing.

I really feel they had to cram a lot in this movie. I also think there was an original cut that might have been a bit more coehesive as a sequel. Whereas this was a half sequal half reimagining. I really feel that some of the disconnect from emotion etc were part of the reshoots. IDK There are so many parts where the acting/feel/emotion of the characters is so realistic. And others where it is just odd and phoned in.

My point? I think that now that they have crammed in all of the "backstory" and set everything up a sequel could really go anywhere. I really believe there is a LOT of potential here.

This franchise has a chance to be the first where it gets better by the sequals as opposed to what happened with the matrix.

That is just wishfull thinking though. I know. But I really think there is at least a chance here. The design and structure of the story are there. It is a great "universe" to visit.

I believe that Disney leaving the Tron experience open "indeffinately" means that they know there is a lot of interest in this franchise still.

Even if people like CTF have to post over and over and over as to how lame this movie was. And constantly tell us that the majority of the world thinks this movie was an abomination to mankind...

There ARE obviously lots of people who enjoyed it. :angel

It has it's faults but I am optomisic and hopeful for a kickarse sequel to Legacy.

 

[YenChih Lin]

You know what OldKen?
I was thinking about the 3rd sequel today - set 1 or 2 years later, Sam rebuild the grid to seek for data fragments of his dad (Tron City still exists with it's inhabitants as well as the redeemed and a patched Tron, who was then pulled out of the sea of simulation), Quorra is living with Sam together (while learning about being a normal human under the wings of Lora Bradley, she also knows her real whereabouts), since they surely "faked" the truth about Kevin's death (telling the world, that they found the cause of his death was the Shiva laser in his basement and that he was zapped). But instead of keeping a low profile, Quorra has been a little bit uncareful, revealing somehow that she isn't completely human (might be a slip of knowledge or her appearance, like not having a normal blood or DNA). Dillinger Jr. knows the truth afterwards, wants the knowledge Quorra has and claims her as a property of Encom and the only way to escape is to go to the grid. I haven't thought of it further, but in the whole progress of the story, Tron and Yori, Sam, Quorra as well as Alan and Lora plays an important in the grid. Ed Dillinger Jr. is also digitized into this world. What about this?

 

[CB2001]

I don't even think there was a page to incite the incident. Clu didn't know what Sam was talking about, and Kevin said he didn't send it. I think Alan just said he got the page to light a fire under Sam.

There was. Due to the actions of the Flynn Lives members, who used a digital pulse on an old phone grid, it cause the page to get through. It's possible that the page was sent by CLU a year or two after he turned on Flynn and CLU simply forgot about it (CLU seemed to have an "Oh, yeah, the page..." look on his face when Sam mentioned it. And let's not forget, over a thousand cycles past, so I don't think CLU would be able to remember ALL actions he's taken over the years in his attempt to push Flynn to make a move). And the page may have sat somewhere on the server, waiting for an open phone line to send the page through, much like a router waiting for an open line before forwarding a packet of info. And when FL members caused the pulse on the phone grid, the page finally made it through.

 

[Larry Young]

There was. Due to the actions of the Flynn Lives members...

Disney Fail. I'm just a dude who watches movies, not play ARGs or whatever the kids call it. I do comics, and even I didn't read whatever tie-in they did.

So, I'm not standing up on the wall saying this happened or that happened, but I would ask if everyone would do us regular joes the courtesy of our musings without bringing ancillary apocryphal stuff into the discussion.

 

[Jedi2016]

I think if there's a third film, it will definitely involve Quorra as a major plot point, along with Dillinger. I mean, how could you NOT do something with Dillinger, after putting Cillian frikkin' Murphy in the role? Bringing Kevin back.. I dunno, that could go either way. But definitely Tron, gotta bring him back as a major player.

I'm itching to hear the DVD commentary, I want to see what the writers/producers/directors say about all of this stuff, especially things like Alan's page. Obviously Kevin didn't send it, and it's likely that CLU was lying about it and really did send it, like Kevin said. But how would he? That would mean he has some way of connecting outside of the Grid, and into the telephone system. But I was under the impression that the system containing the Grid wasn't networked. In it's "beta" state, and given its purpose, that would have been pretty dangerous, and Flynn would have known this and left the system completely offline. So how did the page get out?

Definitely right about Alan's "knowing". His "wouldn't that be something?" line, along with his insisting that Sam be the one to go down there. Makes me wonder if Kevin ever took Alan into the Grid. I'm thinking not, since otherwise Alan would have known where he was all this time, and would have gotten him out within a day or two. But if that's the case, then why the twinkle in the eye when he sends Sam to the arcade?

 

[Larry Young]

But if that's the case, then why the twinkle in the eye when he sends Sam to the arcade?

I think he knew about it, but wasn't courageous or brave enough to attempt a rescue. Or didn't trust anyone else enough to come get the two of them if his eight-hour window closed. Until Sam grew up and could prove himself.

 

[nickytea]

So, I'm not standing up on the wall saying this happened or that happened, but I would ask if everyone would do us regular joes the courtesy of our musings without bringing ancillary apocryphal stuff into the discussion.

Nobody would begrudge you your musings ... I enjoy them myself. But we are in a time where the "ancillary apocryphal" designation is blurring. If it is is from the same minds and the same intent, simply spread across medias ... it all begins to feel more legitimate and less "tie-in." It's also overwhelmingly satisfying.

 

[BUGSY]

It was great eye candy, but I think all the hype let me build it up and in the end, was just 'ok' with it.

 

[Larry Young]

It's also overwhelmingly satisfying.

Oh, I understand how it'd be satisfying; much like the DVD extras would be for a film. Where I balk is when you have to play the game or download the gizmo or eat the cereal or whatever to make the film narrative make sense. That's an error of marketing, I think. Content can be added-value, of course, but if the added-value is needed content, well... dang; that should have been woven into the narrative initially.

The LOST ARGs and whatnot added value, but weren't necessary. If the TRON ARG has narrative weight that illuminates questions pondered by the audience... that's a Disney fail. If I want an Almond Joy, I shouldn't go into the Almond Joy shop and have only Mounds bars available with a link to where I can buy my almonds, you know? :lol

 

[DARTH SABER]

The breakers for the games and lights were off, but the building still had electrical service, otherwise Sam would not been able to turn anything on. The basement was on a separate panel that was never shut off. But who paid the electrical bill to keep the service running in Kevin's absence?

Who knows...Flynn's son probably paid the bill before he went to the arcade.

 

[terryr]

Or Alan Bradley. And installed a back up generator. There must have been a few power failures in 20 years.

 

[Clutch]

My 5-yr old wants to see this movie, but it is PG-13. I don't remember that much bad stuff in it. Was there?

 

[OldKen]

My 5-yr old wants to see this movie, but it is PG-13. I don't remember that much bad stuff in it. Was there?

I thought it was PG? :confused