DoubleD
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I hope he's a regular since he's become one of my favorites too. He was a complete jack wagon last season, but he's showing some humanity now while retaining his "don't eff with me" edge.
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I hope he's a regular since he's become one of my favorites too. He was a complete jack wagon last season, but he's showing some humanity now while retaining his "don't eff with me" edge.
CB2001
Master Member
What often works in one forum of media doesn't always work in another forum. A good example is John Carpenter's adaptation of Stephen King's Christine. In the novel, Christine is part living thing, part haunted house on wheels. For the adaptation, Carpenter got rid of the entire haunted house aspect of Christine because of the fact that it would be impossible to do without it looking comedic (in fact, that same year, An American Werewolf in London was released and he was worried about the comparison between having the previous owner of the car being compared with it). Though it worked well for the novel, it just didn't seem to work well for the movie. Another example, is the changing of the ending of The Matrix Revolutions for the video game The Matrix: The Path of Neo, in which the Wachowski Brothers themselves explain the change for the game itself. The FCC may have regulations about showing kids handling guns on TV, and may worry about how children would view this (which in a way, it'd come off as a negative thing)
And there's also another thing to keep in mind: just because Shane hasn't been killed by Carl so far doesn't mean it might not happen. By the way it looks, the entire group are about to start learning how to shoot guns. There's a possibility that Carl may, in fact, get the chance to learn and carry one. And, by the way its looking, Shane is on the verge of cracking. And if that's true, there is the possibility that Shane meeting his fate at the hands of Carl IS still possible. If it doesn't, then there may be a clear reason behind it that only the production and Robert Kirkman may know that we don't.
So, don't knock it because Carl hasn't killed Shane (yet). To me, it could be as simple as this being a variation of the same story (much like how there are multiple variations of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, which all features the same characters and some of the situations, but each version, (be it the radio play, the mini-series, the books, the comic book, the text adventure game or even the movie) has its own variation of the situations presented.
firesprite
Master Member
I'm 100% with you guys about Darryl. His character is rapidly becoming one of my favorites. When he was roaring around on his chopper with the 'SS' on the side, I chuckled and shook my head, saying 'Stay classy, Darryl', but then he goes and saves T-Dogg...
He's really turning into one of the most interesting characters in the group and I hope he continues the evolutionary path that he's on.
I absolutely adore this show. It's some of the best writing out there right now. Is it perfect? Hell no. It drives me up the wall when they make stupid lapses in tactical thinking:
Really, you're stopped in the middle of the road with people spread out all over and you have no perimeter? Why in the HELL is Andrea stupid enough to not close the RV door when she's in there alone? Why would they even let Carl go hunt for Sophia in the first place?! The proper response to his query would have been for Shane and/or Rick to put the responsibility for the remaining civilians in his hands, that way he'd be in a safer locale and still feel like he was contributing.
Even so, I can excuse it because even though two of them have training from the police, they're also in a small group and under almost constant stress. When compared to shows that I had high hopes for, like Terra Nova, the reliance on cliches and 'stunt' writing on TN really shows through all the more and is all the more disappointing for that.
He's really turning into one of the most interesting characters in the group and I hope he continues the evolutionary path that he's on.
I absolutely adore this show. It's some of the best writing out there right now. Is it perfect? Hell no. It drives me up the wall when they make stupid lapses in tactical thinking:
Really, you're stopped in the middle of the road with people spread out all over and you have no perimeter? Why in the HELL is Andrea stupid enough to not close the RV door when she's in there alone? Why would they even let Carl go hunt for Sophia in the first place?! The proper response to his query would have been for Shane and/or Rick to put the responsibility for the remaining civilians in his hands, that way he'd be in a safer locale and still feel like he was contributing.
Even so, I can excuse it because even though two of them have training from the police, they're also in a small group and under almost constant stress. When compared to shows that I had high hopes for, like Terra Nova, the reliance on cliches and 'stunt' writing on TN really shows through all the more and is all the more disappointing for that.
Can someone explain to me how countless people seemed to just die sitting in the driver's seats of their cars? I cant remember - did this plague "just kill" people too?
JiminSTLouis
Master Member
I'm late to the game. I saw a commercial for the show while waiting for a movie to start last night (The Thing) so I immediately added season one to my queue on Netflix, and set up my DVR to record season 2. I haven't watched any episodes yet but I look forward to it. I've heard good things from so many people.
CB2001
Master Member
It could be possible that those people became zombies, but due to the heat and inability to get out of their vehicles because zombies don't know how to disengage a seat belt or open a car door, they sort of died a second time within the cars still seated.
But, it's possible that the dead bodies in the cars were still human and that due to the road block, which I bet you two bucks it was swamped with Walkers at one point, they couldn't exit out of their vehicles. With some of the vehicles limited space, they probably didn't have enough food to last a long period of time, and with the living dead surround them, they couldn't escape. Remember the story Cujo by Stephen King? Remember what happened to the woman and her kid? They were stuck in the car, unable to leave because of the danger that was outside of the car. Imagine being stuck in the middle of a road block, unable to turn around with the living dead on all sides. And since the living dead would be persistent, you could be in the car for days (possibly a week) before your car runs out of gas and your batteries die. Combine that with the typical southern heat, you'd could easily die of dehydration or heat stroke before you'd die of hunger. "But what about the cars that didn't have any bodies in them?" They could very well have been people who attempted to make a run for it, some who had guts to attempt to run despite the massive amount of zombies covering the road. They could have took off into the woods and got away, some of them not being as fortunate and ending up becoming walkers themselves (it could very well be possible that some of the walkers that walked through the road block were formerly some of the people whose vehicles we've seen).
It's really hard to say for sure. But the above mentioned is possible, as we've seen one lane packed full of cars in a couple of shots of characters going in and out of Atlanta (and since Atlanta was packed with dead people, there's a large possibility that most of those who were turned were those who attempted to escape the city in a vehicle).
darthgordon
Sr Member
Yeah, did you watch "Talking Dead" afterwards? They ask that same question... did they just get stuck in a traffic jam and wait there to die? If they'd been bitten they should have turned into zomies themselves.
JD
Master Member
Maybe it's a bit presumptious of me to think that Carl is dead. A gut shot in their conditions (no hospital, no medcial staff, limited medical supplies) leads me to believe he's a goner. But, apparently the shot went through a deer first and it may've slowed the bullet enough to make it non-lethal and treatable - even in the shape they're in.
...and generally, I agree that there usually has to be some give and take, changes and edits between various media. ...that said: Carl still needs to shoot Shane (and really should've happened at the end of season 1).
CB2001
Master Member
Well, I already have an idea on what's going to happen to Carl, as I've read the comics (up to Volume 3). All I can say is "Hershel's Farm" is the answer. If you haven't read the comics, you'll definitely find out about Hershel's Farm in the next episode (in addition to who it was that shot the deer and accidentally hit Carl in the process).
And don't worry, I'm sure it'll happen eventually, as we already saw with Shane's temporary breakdown in the final episode of Season 1 (when everyone was about to blow up). I bet you that when they get to the army base, it's going to be another dead end and its going to make him snap, and lead Carl into the same scenario that was in Volume 1 of the comics.
DoubleD
Sr Member
At least AMC has the balls to push the envelope so there's no worries about them of wussing out and getting soft.
Between this show and Breaking Bad AMC is becoming one of my favorite channels.
handler
Well-Known Member
I haven't read the comics, so I have to enjoy the show for what it is, and I like it a lot.
I have always wondered why the zombie blood doesn't affect the ones who get it on them, too. If it gets into an open cut or sore, you would think it would infect the person, right?
And what ever happened to Daryl's brother? Michael Rooker is a fairly famous actor, so I was surprised he was only in it for two episodes last year.
I have always wondered why the zombie blood doesn't affect the ones who get it on them, too. If it gets into an open cut or sore, you would think it would infect the person, right?
And what ever happened to Daryl's brother? Michael Rooker is a fairly famous actor, so I was surprised he was only in it for two episodes last year.
CB2001
Master Member
No. I thought, "Lucky deer."
Flagg
Sr Member
One thing that kind of bugged me with this episode was the herd of walkers that showed up. Dale and Rick both were scouting with scopes and binoculars but this giant herd of undead get right up on top of them before either of them notice? It seemed like a scene from a bad video game.
"We're clear!"
"Wait! There's a hundred zombies that just popped up! My bad."
And in a past episode wasn't it established that the zombies "Smelled" the living? Wouldn't hiding under a car do nothing for them in the grand scheme of things in this case? Daryl was smart enough to grab a corpse and plop it on top of him as cover when one as coming by but the rest of them should of been lunch.
"We're clear!"
"Wait! There's a hundred zombies that just popped up! My bad."
And in a past episode wasn't it established that the zombies "Smelled" the living? Wouldn't hiding under a car do nothing for them in the grand scheme of things in this case? Daryl was smart enough to grab a corpse and plop it on top of him as cover when one as coming by but the rest of them should of been lunch.
Kerr Avon
Master Member
It's an insect in the South of the US called a Cicada I think. It's annoying but yet get used to it and learn to tune it out.
Kerr Avon
Master Member
I can smell the living too, but that doesn't mean I can smell a living person hiding under a bed. Zombies don't have superhuman senses, their senses are no greater than the living counterparts. They don't hunt by scent, they hunt by sight and sound, and if you are close enough standing by them that they can smell you not rotting, then you've got a problem.
CaptHowdy
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A month is going to do nothing to the gas. The only issue with gas is if it has been sitting for a long time in different temperatures where it can condensate and get water in the tank. A month or even a year is nothing for gas or oil, which draining them I have never heard of being done. The gas part is a maybe but not sure why unless you have water in it. Oil I would wonder why any one would drain the oil and leave the engine unprotected from corrosion. Batteries where a bigger issue years ago but still can go dead without use but it will take a lot longer then a month. Modern maintenance free batteries last a lot longer then the old ones. I have personally started cars with nothing more then a jump that have been sitting for 5 years. Personally I wouldnt take a Hummer because they are gas hogs. But I would get rid of those pieces of crap they are driving. If your going to have to siphon gas anyway might as well be for something good.
CB2001
Master Member
Okay, but it still doesn't change the fact that there's nothing saying that the Humvees had gas in them, let alone the keys in the ignitions.
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