THE ORIGINAL VADER HELMET

[TK-2067]

I guess this is where george got his idea for the vader helmet. its an iraq helmet. just thought it was cool to post here.

 

[StarWars Collector]

I don't think so. It's an Fedayeen helmet and the Fedayeen was founded in 1995....

LINK

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Yes, the Fedayen was inspired by the Vader helmet, whereas the Vader helmet was inspired by the old Samurai helmets.

 

[StarWars Collector]

Exactly NHM. And not the other way around.

 

[TK-2067]

oh well i feel like a fool :confused lol thanks for the info , it look like an old helmet . i guess thats why this a great forum thanks guys rod

 

[StarWars Collector]

That's why we're here for.....sharing knowledge. :thumbsup

 

[yakcam]

Mate, don't feel like a fool, it's a logical assumption.

Hussein wanted to instil fear during his regime and the ultimate baddie is Vader, so that's where his design came from. The Fedayeen also wore black balaclava's with the helmets sometimes, imagine that coming at you with an SMG or an assault rifle :ninja It would scare the crap outta me.

Cheers,

Kraig

 

[zorg]

i think this was posted up a couple of years ago, there was even one in the junkyard if i remember

 

[Too Much Garlic]

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Mate, don't feel like a fool, it's a logical assumption.
Hussein wanted to instil fear during his regime and the ultimate baddie is Vader, so that's where his design came from. The Fedayeen also wore black balaclava's with the helmets sometimes, imagine that coming at you with an SMG or an assault rifle :ninja It would scare the crap outta me.
Cheers,
Kraig
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Wouldn't scare me one bit... one shot to the head and he'd be dead, as the Fedayen was not made of steel, but rather fiberglass, iirc. NO PROTECTION at all.

EDIT: yeah okay... it may be a little spooky, seing someone coming at you... just thought I'd mention it... as I'm not really as brave and fearless as my original post made it sound like.

 

[RKW]

A DP recast if ever I saw one

The other thing they shared with Vader is they didn't see it coming

 

[StarWars Collector]

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The other thing they shared with Vader is they didn't see it coming
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Deeeep. :thumbsup

 

[ToxicAvenger]

Hm...

I have my own perhaps weird theory bout the vader helmet inspiration.

They needed something which personalizes evil and what would be better than to try to create a "third reich" theme.

The imperial officer uniforms do remind me of a german military organization (dont misunderstand please...I know Star Wars has nothing to do with the third reich)...I mean the used riding boots, grey uniforms and this grey caps.

And every officer who failed vader was killed by the evil lord of the sith in which I also see connections to this third reich image.

To Topic:

I think vaders dome was inspired by the german steel helmets in ww2.

 

[KevVader]

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To Topic:

I think vaders dome was inspired by the german steel helmets in ww2.
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I don't think so....it's fairly well documented that when Lucas visulaized Vader in the beginning that he was looking for a Bedouin type figure with long flowing robes/capes and a Samaurai type helmet.

However, the Empire/Third Reich connection is clear....in the uniforms, emblems, etc....

 

[StarWars Collector]

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I don't think so....it's fairly well documented that when Lucas visulaized Vader in the beginning that he was looking for a Bedouin type figure with long flowing robes/capes and a Samaurai type helmet.[/b]

If I remember correctly as a kind of tribute to Akira Kurosawa, a Japanese director.

 

[SithLord]

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The imperial officer uniforms do remind me of a german military organization (dont misunderstand please...I know Star Wars has nothing to do with the third reich)...I mean the used riding boots, grey uniforms and this grey caps.
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Yep...that's because the costume designer for Star Wars, John Mollo, had an extensive background in military uniforms....so you are right about the Imperial Officers...and Mollo has referred to them in reference to Vader: (from "Vader, The Ultimate Guide"):

"It was more of a Nazi influence, really," he says. "I mean, to me, it looks sort of like a Nazi helmet and pieces of trench armor that the Germans wore in World War I."

 

[Sporak]

Time to post this...

I found a gas mask on the net and whipped this up for the heck of it LOL...

 

[Darth Kahnt]

:lol

That's pretty funny...

 

[TK-2067]

ANOTHER thing that connects the bad guy thing to the nazi s is vader army are know as stormtroopers , and they do use some nazi guns such as the MG-34. i am sure there is some influence there... although the sterlings are british .

 

[TK-2067]

HMMMM, do you see the influence here?

 

[slave1pilot]

yEah, both have boots AND belts.
Uncanny