The end of SGU...(No Spoilers)

Jodo Kast 3

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Is anybody else disappointed that tonight was the last episode? I`m pissed at Sci-Fi channel (Yeah, I know...SyFY whatever...) They would`nt know a good show if it walked up and bit them. I`m wondering if they will wrap up any and all loose ends with a movie like Star Gate did?


And nope...

I have`nt watched it yet....SO NO SPOILERS!
 
Meh, that's what they get for having a mediocre to lousy first season and first half of second season. If it was better it might not have been cancelled.
 
I`m wondering if they will wrap up any and all loose ends with a movie like Star Gate did?

They'd planned on making a movie to wrap it up, when they wrote and filmed the second half of the second season, but the ratings dropped so low, Sci Fi (sorry, i'll never call em Syfy) killed the idea. So nope...not unless the fans petition, and revolt Firefly style, it's not happening.
 
Not to mention that the SG-1 and SG:A movies have been cancelled as well. The stargate franchise is officially dead now.

I really enjoyed SG:U. I found it refreshing. The earlier series had grown stale and the two SG-1 TV movies were awful.

I've also liked the recent story arc with the Novus civilization. They really got a lot of mileage out of that time travel episode. That arc along with finding out what happened to the hippies in "Visitation," also make a nice counter-point to BSG's silly ending.
 
Meh, that's what they get for having a mediocre to lousy first season and first half of second season. If it was better it might not have been cancelled.

Thank you for proving your taste is absent in other areas besides Rand! :)

SGU was one of the best shows Sci-Fi ever had. Kicked the crap out of atlantis.

And the number of viewers wasn't the problem. Fan campaigns to save it are huge, and grow every day. The problem is that Sci-Fi is still locked in the same stone age idea of live viewing numbers. Which truth be told, hold a lot of weight, due to advertisers. But the numbers of people watching on their dvr, etc was much better.

The ways that they screwed this show from the start could fill a thesis.

It's disgusting, and it was pretty much the nail in the coffin for me supporting them anymore.
 
I really enjoyed SG-1, but when RDA left the show, it went downhill. The Ori were a cool idea, but the new cast just didn't work as well. Beau Bridges was no Don Davis, Vala Doran's character made it worse and Mitchell seemed more like a clone of O'Neill, except nowhere near as good as RDA.

SGA was a clone of SG-1 in the Pegasus galaxy with different technology and missions. Though it was enjoyable to watch (McKay made the show, IMO) they really didn't accomplish nearly anything, making the show seem useless and it was getting old.

SGU was very non Stargateish, but a much more dark and dramatic show that really kept you into it, and I agree that it was a good refresher from what we'd had. It deserved more than 2 years, but the reason is obvious: They were building up to the big dramatic Destiny's mission, and when it was revealed, everyone was like: .... really. That's it? I haven't kept up with recent episodes (waiting for Hulu to start putting them up) but it'll be nice to see how it ends.
 
Yea...when i first heard of Universe, i thought it was gonna be a cheap stargate ripoff of Voyager...but they took the basic idea and made it amazing in my opinion. I do think they could have skipped the alliance members hijacking....that just made it seem a bit more like a voyager rip off, but again, they made it really work. i'd love for them to make the movie tho.
 
They majorly shot themselves in the foot with this. Take a look at their facebook page. Hundreds of fans in the last few hours have unliked them, and announced they are cancelling their subscriptions and boycotting the network.

You can't molest your fan base like this and expect to make money. They are fools, and will get what is coming to them. I can't wait for comic-con. It's gonna be a beatdown of epic proportions when Bonnie Hammer and everyone show up to pimp their new wrestling and reality shows to be greeted by a mass of p'd off stargate fans! I hope they disrupt every panel, the floor, everything.

I expect this type of crap from Fox. But Sci-Fi? It's like your mother punching you in the face and then asking for a hug. What the frak!

As for the show? Was a great season finale.
Horrible Series finale. Simply because it was never intended to be an ending.
This seriously makes me more and more angry every minute. And it's got barely anything to do with SGU, or Caprica. Just symptoms of the disease.
 
Maybe we'll get a direct-to-DVD movie to wrap things up...but I'm not holding my breath. :(

Unlikely. As was mentioned above, the SG-1 and SGA movies have been canceled. This was due, apparently, more to the rising cost of productions in Canada than anything else. After the show's off the air, I doubt SyFy has much to do with it. At that point, I think, it's an MGM property. But nobody wants to spend the money on these franchises.

SG-1 I think is basically cleanly finished at this point. It wrapped up the Baal storyline and the Ori storyline, so anything else is just gravy. SGA, I gather, ended with a lot of stuff unresolved, as did SGU, I'm guessing. I never watched either show (although both are available on Netflix in their entirety). What I find goofy is (A) the insistence on pushing things to the last second and hoping for a "wrap-up" movie rather than using your existing budget to wrap the show up on the air and THEN do your direct-to-market standalone films.

They majorly shot themselves in the foot with this. Take a look at their facebook page. Hundreds of fans in the last few hours have unliked them, and announced they are cancelling their subscriptions and boycotting the network.

You can't molest your fan base like this and expect to make money. They are fools, and will get what is coming to them. I can't wait for comic-con. It's gonna be a beatdown of epic proportions when Bonnie Hammer and everyone show up to pimp their new wrestling and reality shows to be greeted by a mass of p'd off stargate fans! I hope they disrupt every panel, the floor, everything.

I expect this type of crap from Fox. But Sci-Fi? It's like your mother punching you in the face and then asking for a hug. What the frak!

As for the show? Was a great season finale.
Horrible Series finale. Simply because it was never intended to be an ending.
This seriously makes me more and more angry every minute. And it's got barely anything to do with SGU, or Caprica. Just symptoms of the disease.

Not to disrespect SG* fans, but honestly, I doubt that SyFy is going to give a crap about what they think or how many (or how few) protest their actions. This is a lot like the "Browncoats" movement where there's a feeling of solidarity among the fan community, but it doesn't have the critical mass to accomplish a whole hell of a lot, and even if it did, the people holding both the rights and the purse-strings aren't listening.

Honestly, hundreds of fans "unliking" SyFy's facebook page isn't going to mean a whole lot, and I REALLY doubt people are going to cancel their ENTIRE cable subscription just to make a point about Stargate TV shows (seeing as how SyFy is usually part of a bundle rather than a standalone channel like HBO).


As I've mentioned elsewhere, I think that SyFy's new (well, maybe not so new) business model is all about profit margins. They want to put the least money into a product to squeeze the most money out of it. This is why they cancel expensive shows like the Stargate shows, shows that have run for more than, oh, three or four seasons like SGA and BSG, and spend their money on stuff like stupid (but cheap) reality shows, and movies that even Roger Corman would say "Whoa....that SUCKED" like Giant Bumblebee vs. Manticore. I'd bet wrestling is the most expensive single show in their lineup or, at least, that's the eventual goal.

Towards that end, ratings only sort of matter. It's like an entire network of nothing but non-stop daytime TV. You don't EXPECT high numbers, but you're making money by selling discounted ad space for shows that cost a pittance to produce.
 
I actually liked SGU - better than Atlantis at least. It was different in tone but then the tone of tv shows in general has evolved since SG1 first came out so I didn't mind that. They kept with the continuity for the most part (at least, I think they did) and I liked the characters and chemistry MUCH more than Atlantis.

SG1 did suffer after RDA left but it was still mostly watchable. The Ori didn't make particularly good villains but it wasn't horrible.

It's disappointing that they cancelled SGU but I'm not surprised. It's all about the benjamins, y'know? We were probably lucky to get what we did with SGU. Syfy is scifi-challenged these days, after all... They're going the route of all the other niche channels... MTV, VH1, AMC... you name it. You pick a niche to start off in and then you gradually branch out until you have absolutely nothing to do with the genre/subject that made you successful.

I guess the flip side of that is that maybe eventually, Syfy will figure something out like AMC did with the Walking Dead.
 
For myself and my wife, we loved SGU. Many thought SGU too dark, but that's an aspect that made me fall in love with BSG. The characters had depth IMO. I felt for the characters in a way that CAPRICA did not either. SG-1 was great in its day, but the stories got more and more ridiculous as it dragged out to its final season. Atlantis had a rough start, but we felt it also started to hit a good stride, as long as it held to the main story.

Part of my love for SGU was the familiarity with the set of Destiny. While others may scorn it, I loved the feel of the steampunk'y ship. Not all ancient ships needed to be glitz and steel.

And the show is truly dead, as Propworx will be auctioning off props from the show in the near future. It's great to own a piece of the show, but truly sad that it had to end.

I will say, though, that the last episode was a better ending, even though it wasn't meant to be so, than even BSG. There was resolution, of a sort, but more than enough to leave me with a good feeling. I hope it was the same for others.

Cheers,

Guy
 
I actually liked SGU - better than Atlantis at least. It was different in tone but then the tone of tv shows in general has evolved since SG1 first came out so I didn't mind that. They kept with the continuity for the most part (at least, I think they did) and I liked the characters and chemistry MUCH more than Atlantis.

SG1 did suffer after RDA left but it was still mostly watchable. The Ori didn't make particularly good villains but it wasn't horrible.

It's disappointing that they cancelled SGU but I'm not surprised. It's all about the benjamins, y'know? We were probably lucky to get what we did with SGU. Syfy is scifi-challenged these days, after all... They're going the route of all the other niche channels... MTV, VH1, AMC... you name it. You pick a niche to start off in and then you gradually branch out until you have absolutely nothing to do with the genre/subject that made you successful.

I guess the flip side of that is that maybe eventually, Syfy will figure something out like AMC did with the Walking Dead.

Honestly, nice thought though that'd be, I just rather doubt it. I've never even seen the show, but the cast alone probably puts it out of SyFy's budget range. You stick Viggo Mortensen in a show, even if he only plays a side character, and you're probably already 1/8 through SyFy's annual budget! :lol

"Sorry [crappy reality TV show]. We had to cancel you. We needed your budget to pay for Viggo."


I mean, really, look at their shows. How many original programs do they have now that are, say, 1hr dramas? Let's see...there's Eureka, and Warehouse 13.....um......I'm drawing a blank on anything else. The rest seems to be reruns, crappy movies, and crappier reality programming. I don't see them shelling out the cash for the talent (both in front of and behind the camera) to do shows like The Walking Dead or whathaveyou.
 
Thank you for proving your taste is absent in other areas besides Rand! :)

SGU was one of the best shows Sci-Fi ever had. Kicked the crap out of atlantis.

Just because you say something doesn't make it true, sorry ;) SGU was an attempt to rip off the style of BSG and suffered from many of the same problems of BSG. Having made two other series previously the producers should have been able to kick off a new series and knock it out of the park on day one. Sadly, the entire first season was absolute dreck.

As for the large fan base, yes, you and the three other squids go out and march in front of the SCIFI channel headquarters. Enjoy yourself.
 
Just watched the finale. A great episode. Certainly a much better send off than either SG-1 or SG:A had. It's not a bad ending for the franchise either. The journey continues, we just won't be there to see it.

I'm disappointed that we won't find out how it ends. Maybe there will be some spin-off novels or comic books. But nothing live action. No movies, no TV shows.
 
Just because you say something doesn't make it true, sorry ;) SGU was an attempt to rip off the style of BSG and suffered from many of the same problems of BSG. Having made two other series previously the producers should have been able to kick off a new series and knock it out of the park on day one. Sadly, the entire first season was absolute dreck.

As for the large fan base, yes, you and the three other squids go out and march in front of the SCIFI channel headquarters. Enjoy yourself.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinions. That's what this board is all about. My wife and I really liked SGU and its darker aspect. We were both fans of SG-1 and Atlantis, but found that SG-1's stories just got ridiculous by the time the series ended. Camelot? Really? Atlantis too, despite our love of the characters (not all, mind you), suffered from an obviously rushed and--in my opinion--over-simplified ending. Atlantis is floating off of San Francisco.....really?

SGU's ending, despite them not knowing that the series was going to be canceled, worked quite well. It has some resolution, and had a better ending than even Atlantis, whose writers knew it was going to be canceled.

As for BSG being a failure, that's certianly your opinion, Kerr, as much as it it mine that it was the best sci-fi that I've ever seen. Yes, season 4.5 suffered from the writer's strike, and the final 30 minutes of the series was enough for me to punch the television, but overall there are far more complex ideas, talented acting and superior sets and graphics than nearly any other sci-fi show. I'm sorry, but I've grown tired of campy "syfy" and all the B-rated stuff that comes out anymore. Not everything has to wrap up in one hour or look like a spruced up version of a Buck Rogers set.

We all have our own opinions, and as for myself I will collect, with great sadness, some of the props when Propworx puts them up for auction. For my wife and I, SGU will be greatly missed.

CAPRICA....not so much. LOL

Cheers,

Guy
 
Honestly, nice thought though that'd be, I just rather doubt it. I've never even seen the show, but the cast alone probably puts it out of SyFy's budget range. You stick Viggo Mortensen in a show, even if he only plays a side character, and you're probably already 1/8 through SyFy's annual budget! :lol

"Sorry [crappy reality TV show]. We had to cancel you. We needed your budget to pay for Viggo."


I mean, really, look at their shows. How many original programs do they have now that are, say, 1hr dramas? Let's see...there's Eureka, and Warehouse 13.....um......I'm drawing a blank on anything else. The rest seems to be reruns, crappy movies, and crappier reality programming. I don't see them shelling out the cash for the talent (both in front of and behind the camera) to do shows like The Walking Dead or whathaveyou.

True... I've been watching their show "Haven" on Hulu. It's not great by any stretch but it's tolerable while I'm working and can watch while only giving it partial attention. Then Eureka and Warehouse 13 as you mentioned. Neither one is worth writing home about. I've tried watching Sanctuary and just can't stomach it anymore and that's saying a LOT when *I* can't tolerate a show any longer.

Something like the Walking Dead probably is out of their reach as you said, particularly considering their unwillingness to keep shows like BSG or SGU on the air.

And if I understand it right, those 'Saturday night specials' that they show... Sharktomanoid vs. Femalien-mansquito are usually just movies that they just buy off the shelf - not even stuff that they produced themselves. They just slap their logo on it since they're the ones "presenting" the movie I guess.

Most of the crap they have now seems to me to be stuff like Ghost Hunters or whatever. They've got a new scripted show coming out called Alphas I'm mildly curious about. Seems sort of like a rehash on the Heroes type of show from what little I've seen.

So, yeah, I'd like to think one day they'll pull something decent off but it's definitely not looking good.
 
It was a scifi show on the scifi channel. It was destined to be canceled early.

I think for their two seasons (each broken into two halves) that they had for different air dates/times. Plus I rarely ever saw a commercial for it. I only knew it came back because I was watching something else and saw the DVR recording light on and looked to see what I was recording because I wasn't aware of anything being on i wanted to record.

Say what you want, but lack of advertising and awareness kills ratings more than most anything else. Scifi treats scifi shows like crap and they probably can't figure out why they don't succeed.
 
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