Star Trek Picard Season Three

You know, I'm seeing reedits of the Enterprise going into the Borg cube scene with people putting modern music to it, and it's stuff that doesn't fit like "Sabotage" by The Beastie Boys and "Holding Out for a Hero" by Bonnie Taylor. But there's only one song that would ever truly fit if the show had decided to include any modern music, and one that fits in context also: Steppenwolf's "Magic Carpet Ride."
 
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The question to really be asked is..
Did we need a Picard S3 ?
Are we better or worse for seeing it ?
Well it certainly righted the wrongs of the past two seasons that at times were excruciating to watch.
Yes it had a fitting send off and neat story conclusions and the story arc was pretty satisfying.
I didn't like the HunnyBunny character as a Villan but hey in this day an age it's mighty hard to find anything me icing that hasn't been done to death.
Yeah the Lando/Data thing was obviously familiar but think Independance Day and a slew of other Scifi movies it's been done in..
I thought it was a romp with characters we love, a bit schmaltzy but hey..
For all the chastising of Picard it was the human reactions apologies that happened soon after.
I found myself liking Shaw a lot and read an article in Scifi Magazine that it might not somehow be his last rodeo..

It did at times feel like a Pensioners Day out but catching them all onscreen and in glorious Hi Def was ultimately rewarding.. It did make me chuckle when Worf fell asleep highlighting their age.

I'd rather have them than not and Q..... He is a devilishly great Villan protagonist.
 
I agree that the finale felt rushed. After the emotional build up at the end of ep 9 (yes, it got me in the feels too) It was basically the NG crew flying back to earth with no plan. Finding an object in Jupiter and checking it out, with no plan. Beaming onboard and managing to find Jack and the Queen, with no problem. Flying the Enterprise through what would have been an unfeasably large conduit through to the centre, without problem. Just seemed that at any time, the Borg could have blasted the Enterprise out of the sky.
Also, didn’t it happen all too quickly. Is interstellar travel now simultaneous between star systems? The crew escape from the Titan and fly to the Fleet Museum, in moments, start up the D, and manage to warp back to earth in minutes. surely the commandeered fleet would have laid waste to the cities of Earth, before the D arrived back.

and one last gripe. Did Bev really send a coded message to Jean Lucs old comm badge, asking for urgent help! Isn’t this the equivalent of phoning the old Nokia handset stuck in the bottom of a kitchen drawer, hoping someone hears it!!
 
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I agree that the finale felt rushed. After the emotional build up at the end of ep 9 (yes, it got me in the feels too) It was basically the NG crew flying back to earth with no plan. Finding an object in Jupiter and checking it out, with no plan. Beaming onboard and managing to find Jack and the Queen, with no problem. Flying the Enterprise through what would have been a handily large conduit through to the centre, without problem. Just seemed that at any time, the Borg could have blasted the Enterprise out of the sky.
Also, didn’t it happen all too quickly. Is interstellar travel now simultaneous between star systems? The crew escape from the Titan and fly to the Fleet Museum, in moments, start up the D, and manage to warp back to earth in minutes. surely the commandeered fleet would have laid waste to the cities of Earth, before the D arrived back.

and one last gripe. Did Bev really send a coded message to Jean Lucs old comm badge, asking for urgent help! Isn’t this the equivalent of phoning the old Nokia handset stuck in the bottom of a kitchen drawer, hoping someone hears it!!
I have to agree with a lot of this, and I'm thinking maybe a two-hour finale would have been better.
 
I agree that the finale felt rushed. After the emotional build up at the end of ep 9 (yes, it got me in the feels too) It was basically the NG crew flying back to earth with no plan. Finding an object in Jupiter and checking it out, with no plan. Beaming onboard and managing to find Jack and the Queen, with no problem. Flying the Enterprise through what would have been an unfeasably large conduit through to the centre, without problem. Just seemed that at any time, the Borg could have blasted the Enterprise out of the sky.
Also, didn’t it happen all too quickly. Is interstellar travel now simultaneous between star systems? The crew escape from the Titan and fly to the Fleet Museum, in moments, start up the D, and manage to warp back to earth in minutes. surely the commandeered fleet would have laid waste to the cities of Earth, before the D arrived back.

and one last gripe. Did Bev really send a coded message to Jean Lucs old comm badge, asking for urgent help! Isn’t this the equivalent of phoning the old Nokia handset stuck in the bottom of a kitchen drawer, hoping someone hears it!!

This is the sort of thing I'm talking about--the standard Bad Reboot/Secret Hideout plot contrivances, which make no sense and break one's immersion in the story. Things like death-curing Khan blood, Luke's lightsaber showing up with no explanation, secret decoder rings, etc.

In this case, things like Picard sentimentality holding onto Starfleet property (which can also somehow receive long-range, coded messages). What, he held onto his TNG commbadge, after the GENERATIONS badges were issued?

Oh, and magic Borg semen. Abrams must be proud. Maybe our heroes should start screening all of their enemies' bodily fluids for plot-changing properties. Watch out for the Mugato spit that's the key to time-travel, or the Cardassian sweat which provides clairvoyant powers!

As noted, I don't have a dog in the race, here. I'm done with NuTREK. Not watching, no interest. But I'm still morbidly fascinated from a pop-cultural and sociological view with seeing how this all plays out. These plot contrivances and whatnot all sound deeply stupid (and par for the course for Abrams, Kurtznan, and their pals), and I highly doubt that the fanbase in its prime would have been so forgiving. I've not seen one clip from this show that hasn't made me cringe for one reason or another.

Again, not to slight anyone who's watched and enjoyed this, but it really feels to me like the bar has been set SO low over the past few years that anything which isn't spectacularly stupid and insulting is much more likely to get a pass.

Your mileage may vary. Void where prohibited. No matter where you go, there you are.
 
Funny--that was on one of the little signs on the original Enterprise D bridge--can't remember which one. There was another one with Jim Croce lyrics on it.
Its actually the motto from Excelsiors bridge plaque.

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If you think that's bad, wait till you see Shaw's monologue later on in Ten Forward--it really batters Picard.

To be fair, not everyone treats Picard that way--there are some young Starfleet officers later on that treat him very reverently.

Well I kind of understood that. We saw that in the first episode of DS9 with Sisko already, so I'm guessing Picard is used to survivors being PO'd.
 
Interesting--a more focused story about Picard and Beverly struggling to keep Jack away from the Borg.
It's still a cliched story but it would have trimmed the fat, allowed for better pacing and the same budget could have been used across a tighter 6 episodes than 10 bloated ones.
It's funny how people complain that Voyager overused the Borg, not something I really agree with as Voyager was travelling through Borg space and it made sense they would encounter them. But what did the Picard show do with the Borg? They did a simplistic revenge story and made deassimilation as easy as finding love and pulling a tube out of Jack and all the kids veins magically fade away. It's basically still Kurtzman level space magic.
Also are all starships mostly crewed by the 25 and under demographic? What threat were they really? They didn't have the technology of real Borg with their tubules and nanoprobes and ultimately all were just beamed into a locked room, not even behind a forcefield.
Don't worry though here's the bridge of the Enterprise-D, wooo shiny!
 
Also are all starships mostly crewed by the 25 and under demographic? What threat were they really? They didn't have the technology of real Borg with their tubules and nanoprobes and ultimately all were just beamed into a locked room, not even behind a forcefield.
Don't worry though here's the bridge of the Enterprise-D, wooo shiny!
Maybe they were trying to say something, reflecting the real world and how Some millenials seem to think they know it all and clearly don't.. When an experienced mature guiding hand can help in certain situations..

I still can't get a certain scene out my head though, maybe the script writers thought they were auditioning for another gig?

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Maybe they were trying to say something, reflecting the real world and how Some millenials seem to think they know it all and clearly don't.. When an experienced mature guiding hand can help in certain situations..

I still can't get a certain scene out my head though, maybe the script writers thought they were auditioning for another gig?

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I definitely think Matalas was going for a social commentary with the youth trying to kill off the older generation. What exactly he was trying to say, I'm not so sure about. He developed his family themes very well and integrated them skillfully throughout the season, but this youth-in-rebellion thing feels stapled on.
 
I definitely think Matalas was going for a social commentary with the youth trying to kill off the older generation. What exactly he was trying to say, I'm not so sure about. He developed his family themes very well and integrated them skillfully throughout the season, but this youth-in-rebellion thing feels stapled on.
Maybe rather like The Symbiotic nature of The Borgs we can and should All work together..
Maybe Matalas had a run in with a youth in HR and its slowly been eating away at him :p
 
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