Solo: A Star Wars Story (Post-release)

What did you think of Solo: A Star Wars Story?


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You want to make a good Solo film? Don't show us a character who's already the same person we meet later (in the earlier films).

Make him a hard-core Imperialist and a racist. (Well, species-ist.) Make him strict and obsessed with the rules. (Have him bust up a card game that the non-coms are playing.) He's from some backwater world, he's bought in to all the propaganda, and the Empire lets him fly.

Instead of washing out of the Academy because he's just too cool for school, let him slowly learn that the propaganda is different from the reality, and that's hard for him to stomach.

Like maybe he's a pilot stationed on G5-623. He's told that the Wookies are just animals, and that using them as slaves is no different than harnessing a Bantha.

But he sees them doing maintenance on Imperial starships. He sees that they are smart and kind, or dumb and cruel, that they aren't just animals. They're individuals with as much passion and as much potential for good or evil as "people".

The Wookies rebel, and the Imperials offer a temporary truce to discuss the terms required to end the conflict. But the Empire betrays them and kills many of their leaders. Han is horrified by this, because it breaks the rules of conflict that have existed on every world for all of known history.

And because Han was asking uncomfortable questions about the treatment of the slaves and about the fate of test subjects sent off world, and because Han was against the ambush and spoke out of turn to his commanding officer, the Imperials pin some crime on him. Something that won't just get him out of the way, but will humiliate him personally.

Something like dereliction of duty and cowardice under fire.

Han escapes because he's going to be shipped off to prison or put to death or something, and in the process he spares Chewie's life.

But he fails in stopping the overall plot. He doesn't save the Wookies. They're held in bondage for years after Han and Chewie flee.

And Han gives up. He's not distant and nonchalant because he's just a cool dude. He's protecting himself. He was a true believer, and it ended up too painful.

He gives up on the rules, because some people twist them to their own advantage and everyone who doesn't is going to lose.

And while he knows the Empire is bad, he also knows from personal experience that one man can't do anything to stand against them. He tried. He failed. They took away everything that mattered to him. His beliefs, his worldview. They wouldn't let him fly anymore.

So he becomes a selfish rogue. That makes the moment when he comes back for Luke that much more powerful, because he's not just buying in for the Rebellion.. he's buying into something, anything again.

He sees Luke make a difference all by himself. And when he comes back, he makes a difference all by himself. He realizes that one man can make a difference, and when that man cares about people and stands together with them, they can change the fate of the galaxy.

And two decades later, he returns to Kashyyk with Chewbacca, when the New Republic won't spare resources to free them, to try again.

That's what prequels are supposed to do. Not just telling you what you already know, but showing you something that makes the sequels different.
 
I saw the movie at Regal Cinema on Gilbert Road and Warner. I don't necessarily like the theater all that much because it seems like every movie I see there is dark.........and their popcorn sucks (but they do have the Cheeto popcorn, and if you can't tell by my avatar, I love Cheetos!!). We go there because we get to reserve our seats in advance and they are sofa seats that recline, and I love that. I also don't have to show up 3 hours early, then wait in a queuing line like I'm at Disneyland, and then sprint like I'm in a marathon when the velvet rope is dropped because some ass clown behind be doesn't realize the line is there for a reason. But I digress.....I don't think they've invested in the same quality projectors that larger chain theaters have, and I'm wondering if that's an issue with the darkness.

I did see it in 3D, and I know 3D is inherently darker because of the glasses. But, what made it worse was the geniuses upstairs had issues turning on the 3D filter, so everyone in the theater was pissed because the first 3 minutes of the movie were out of focus and dark, and that was distracting. Maybe I'll go to Harkins and see it again without 3D............
 
So much for my hopes about good WOM helping the second weekend.

There is no "good WOM". It only exists here in this tiny RPF bubble.


I hope the BO doesn't kill off the rumored Kenobi movie.

But keep your chin up, pal. We may find in this 77% drop...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...-story-plunges-77-for-8m-friday/#2578d4242648

...a new hope.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...-may-be-good-news-for-star-wars/#127052f95e1d

The Wook
 
What a friggin disaster this thing is :lol

One more “SURE FIRE” hit like this and heads are gonna roll! :thumbsup
 
Leland Chee has confirmed Solo takes place 13 years and 10 years before ANH making him about 22 at the end.
 
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Leland Chi has confirmed Solo takes place 13 years and 10 years before ANH making him about 22 at the end.

I'm guessing neither you nor Leland Chee were mathletes in school. Ford was 34 when Star Wars was filmed, which puts the character at 24 by the end of the anthology film. And 21 years old by its start.

The Wook
 
I'm guessing neither you nor Leland Chee were mathletes in school. Ford was 34 when Star Wars was filmed, which puts the character at 24 by the end of the anthology film. And 21 years old by its start.

Now unless you can show me somewhere in George's Star Wars script that Han Solo was 32 years old, then I'm gonna stick with that arithmetic.

The Wook

I don't recall where but I always thought Han was 32 in ANH and Luke and Leia 20. Why did Han need to be the same age as Harrison? Was that ever explicitly stated someplace or just what you think?

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Found this:

Harrison Ford was 33 years old when he started filming George Lucas' original Star Wars film, later subtitled A New Hope. The movie took place in 0 ABY (After the Battle of Yavin) and Lucasfilm has published Han Solo's birth year as 29 BBY (Before battle of Yavin).Jul 7, 2015
 
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I don't recall where but I always thought Han was 32 in ANH and Luke and Leia 20. Why did Han need to be the same age as Harrison? Was that ever explicitly stated someplace or just what you think?

You'll have to produce a source. Because in the absence of George specifying Han's age in Star Wars, the character is the age of the actor during filming.
 
He was practically 34 and turned 34 during shooting. And that 29BBY is more Disney-era retcon BS, which I reject.

Again, I will stand corrected if you show it to me in George's script for the film.
 
He was practically 34 and turned 34 during shooting. And that 29BBY is more Disney-era retcon BS, which I reject.

Again, I will stand corrected if you show it to me in George's script for the film.

Actually no, filming for ANH was March 22- July 16, 1976. Harrison would have turned 34 three days before the end of filming. So 33 was his age using that reasoning.
 
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Actually, yes. Everything I posted here is factual.

Nope, Thursday June 24th was Harrison's last day of shooting, he was still 33. As per Rinzler's "Making of STAR WARS", page 209. He did not turn 34 during shooting as you said.
 
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What a friggin disaster this thing is :lol

One more “SURE FIRE” hit like this and heads are gonna roll! :thumbsup

When the worlds number one or is it number two? Disney shill post`s a video proclaiming this, you know its already a done deal and all that we are waiting on now is the official script. Change is coming very, very soon.

 
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