Scammer , recaster warning : latest alias Loganprops, recent alias Snikt Shop

Re: Another recaster, and i think this time, I'm done..

And I think we all know how time consuming that is...

My favorite part was where I learned my business page had been hacked into, then two orders I had, that I spent time on, made and finished no longer needed their orders and now had Snikt Shop versions if what they ordered from me. Then I start getting messages from people who said they had placed orders with me but I had no record of it. No past messages archived. Someone deleted them.

Hacking my business page and poaching my orders and deleting others, Me thinks that goes a few steps above too far....

But then I go to dinner with friends and a couple of them tell me they got messages from Mr. Logan in private trying to skew them against me saying "Hey I know your friends with that Grifter guy, he's trouble, he's obsessed with me and he's a terrible guy"

They laughed and came straight to me like "Who's this Logan guy? He's a ******..."

He's hacking my business and messaging my friends in private, AND IM OBSESSED? He actually believes his own lies...

If they still have the messages it can be traced an you can check to see what IP addresses accessed your account.
 
Re: Another recaster, and i think this time, I'm done..

Hey loser, Dave, Eugene, delusional infant. I have a little challenge for you. For once in your life do an honest day's work. Don't steal, screw anyone over or use anyone. Then try to keep it up for about 30 days. At the end of that realize, you useless piece of ****, that this is what people do day in and day out when they hand you their hard-earned money. You will be robbed. Blind. You will be used. Mercilessly. You will get screwed over. Royally. You'll have done it to yourself. No one will give a ****. The way you don't give a **** about anyone. The next time you send one of your little followers to message me privately to try and figure out who I am. I am every person you ever stole from. Your parents. Your grandfather. Your customers. The people you call your friends. Your coworkers. That girl that died. All of them.
 
Re: Another recaster, and i think this time, I'm done..

Hey loser, Dave, Eugene, delusional infant. I have a little challenge for you. For once in your life do an honest day's work. Don't steal, screw anyone over or use anyone. Then try to keep it up for about 30 days. At the end of that realize, you useless piece of ****, that this is what people do day in and day out when they hand you their hard-earned money. You will be robbed. Blind. You will be used. Mercilessly. You will get screwed over. Royally. You'll have done it to yourself. No one will give a ****. The way you don't give a **** about anyone. The next time you send one of your little followers to message me privately to try and figure out who I am. I am every person you ever stole from. Your parents. Your grandfather. Your customers. The people you call your friends. Your coworkers. That girl that died. All of them.

I didn't think I would ever meet anyone that hates this ******* more than me but wow. Just wow. Kudos to you dude...I'm without words. Jim is a heartless, conscience-free sociopath though. I know him personally, I assure you. Nothing you could say or do would matter to him. You could burn his shop to the ground and he would simply smirk and find a way to steal from someone to compensate to it. He honestly doesn't care and his girlfriend is literally exactly like him.

It's unfortunate but the fact that I've seen this thread blow up over the months it's been going, watching the little army against him grow, watching his website go down, watching PayPal take his money, watching people confront him and being approached myself by dozens...nay, several dozen people who he's wronged over the years gives me hope that maybe someday, fate will find him alone, curled up in the fetal position in a jail-cell....Or in someone's trunk...Either way is cool with me....
 
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I didn't think I would ever meet anyone that hates this ******* more than me but wow. Just wow. Kudos to you dude...I'm without words. Jim is a heartless, conscience-free sociopath though. I know him personally, I assure you. Nothing you could say or do would matter to him. You could burn his shop to the ground and he would simply smirk and find a way to steal from someone to compensate to it. He honestly doesn't care and his girlfriend is literally exactly like him.....

Hate is a strong word...and too much work. He doesn't deserve hate. Hate is for people to do great things, terrible things but great in scale, like Hitler. This is a bottom feeder. I want to protect others so they don't get screwed over. I want to get the word out. I don't want to afford him the luxury of anonymity. I want him to run out of places to run and con unsuspecting people. The fact that his girlfriend is just like him means that his downfall has already started. He used to have good and trusting people around him. Now he's got bottom feeders in his innermost circle, recipe for disaster. Like attracts like. HAHAHAHA! "It has begun"
 
Re: Another recaster, and i think this time, I'm done..

Hate is a strong word...and too much work. He doesn't deserve hate. Hate is for people to do great things, terrible things but great in scale, like Hitler. This is a bottom feeder. I want to protect others so they don't get screwed over. I want to get the word out. I don't want to afford him the luxury of anonymity. I want him to run out of places to run and con unsuspecting people. The fact that his girlfriend is just like him means that his downfall has already started. He used to have good and trusting people around him. Now he's got bottom feeders in his innermost circle, recipe for disaster. Like attracts like. HAHAHAHA! "It has begun"

Your right about that. I know of at least ten people he thinks are friends that are really just watching him, reporting on him and sabotaging him whenever they can. Blood is in the water and the sharks are hungry....

It's all very entertaining...
 
Re: Another recaster, and i think this time, I'm done..

Your right about that. I know of at least ten people he thinks are friends that are really just watching him, reporting on him and sabotaging him whenever they can. Blood is in the water and the sharks are hungry....

It's all very entertaining...

It's not about me or anyone sabotaging. He's doing that himself. We're just here making sure he doesn't get away with it anymore.
 
Re: Another recaster, and i think this time, I'm done..

I'm well aware of outlawprodux. I have known him 3-4 years & your attempts to tarnish his reputation seem to bring you so much satisfaction, so what's the point in arguing otherwise? most, if not all, businesses have their faults. (believe me, i was able to dig up some **** on Alex of Grifter's Custom Creations who appears FAR from perfect with regard to professionalism. lol) my prior comments have been deleted, so y'all can continue to have your one-sided discussion. people in many industries have a similar business practice and I won't fault him for that. and who really cares about having an arrest? It's not the end of the world. I have possession of stolen property/theft on my record... doesn't mean you understand what the situation was, does it? why don't you all post your real names and let's look up everyone's record on here, since you all are apparently are perfect. I'll go first if everyone here agrees to do the same. ;)

Hi, sonia49er,

I am glad that you are still reading this thread.

First, congratulation on receiving the item you ordered from Snikt Shop.

As you can see from the latest postings, he admits to not being able to fill orders from his Fl shop.
Which based on a conservative estimates, means that some customers did not received their orders after making payments
for about 1 year or more. That is based on the postings on

https://www.facebook.com/outlawprodux

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The link may not work due to occasional deactivation by Snikt Shop.

So that means, there is some truth in the postings by various customers.
whether they are all real or not is your opinion.
That is one issue. which i believed by the latest Snikt posting is collaborated by himself.

I would like to ask your thoughts on the second issue.
Recasting: taking someone's else physical work, and making a exact knockoff for profit.

If you haven't already, please take a little time and read through the first couple of pages of this thread for
explanation and proof.
If you need more clarification or explanation, please feel free to ask on the thread.
thanks
 
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Re: Another recaster, and i think this time, I'm done..

And I think we all know how time consuming that is...

My favorite part was where I learned my business page had been hacked into, then two orders I had, that I spent time on, made and finished no longer needed their orders and now had Snikt Shop versions if what they ordered from me. Then I start getting messages from people who said they had placed orders with me but I had no record of it. No past messages archived. Someone deleted them.

Hacking my business page and poaching my orders and deleting others, Me thinks that goes a few steps above too far....

But then I go to dinner with friends and a couple of them tell me they got messages from Mr. Logan in private trying to skew them against me saying "Hey I know your friends with that Grifter guy, he's trouble, he's obsessed with me and he's a terrible guy"

They laughed and came straight to me like "Who's this Logan guy? He's a ******..."

He's hacking my business and messaging my friends in private, AND IM OBSESSED? He actually believes his own lies...

sound familiar, "James Durham"? YOU people are messaging his friends in private. how do you think I got here? OBSESSED MUCH?
 
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If they still have the messages it can be traced an you can check to see what IP addresses accessed your account.

you mean like tracing how "oh lawdy" and "grifterscustoms" have the same IP?
 
Re: Another recaster, and i think this time, I'm done..

you mean like tracing how "oh lawdy" and "grifterscustoms" have the same IP?

Oh hahahahaha, don't. Just don't. You're already in over your head. Let me save you the disappointment and assure you that defending this parasite will do nothing neither for him or you. If you were drowning in a lake and this guy passed by, unless he thought that in saving you he'd get some sort of notoriety or be called a hero, if there was no one there to witness it and take pictures of him saving you so that he can then post it on the Internet...you'd drown. Stop. You look and sound juvenile so I'm going to make the easiest deductions. Either you are a juvenile and you've bought into his bs or you are just like him. A world of advice: take your loyalty elsewhere. He's only using you and others like you. He eats people like you for lunch. Run along now, the adults are talking.
 
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Re: Another recaster, and i think this time, I'm done..

I'm well aware of outlawprodux. I have known him 3-4 years & your attempts to tarnish his reputation seem to bring you so much satisfaction, so what's the point in arguing otherwise? most, if not all, businesses have their faults. (believe me, i was able to dig up some **** on Alex of Grifter's Custom Creations who appears FAR from perfect with regard to professionalism. lol) my prior comments have been deleted, so y'all can continue to have your one-sided discussion. people in many industries have a similar business practice and I won't fault him for that. and who really cares about having an arrest? It's not the end of the world. I have possession of stolen property/theft on my record... doesn't mean you understand what the situation was, does it? why don't you all post your real names and let's look up everyone's record on here, since you all are apparently are perfect. I'll go first if everyone here agrees to do the same. ;)
Hi, sonia49er,

I am glad that you are still reading this thread.

First, congratulation on receiving the item you ordered from Snikt Shop.

As you can see from the latest postings, he admits to not being able to fill orders from his Fl shop.
Which based on a conservative estimates, means that some customers did not received their orders after making payments
for about 1 year or more. That is based on the postings on

https://www.facebook.com/outlawprodux

View attachment 221382View attachment 221381
The link may not work due to occasional deactivation by Snikt Shop.

So that means, there is some truth in the postings by various customers.
whether they are all real or not is your opinion.
That is one issue. which i believed by the latest Snikt posting is collaborated by himself.

I would like to ask your thoughts on the second issue.
Recasting: taking someone's else physical work, and making a exact knockoff for profit.

If you haven't already, please take a little time and read through the first couple of pages of this thread for
explanation and proof.
If you need more clarification or explanation, please feel free to ask on the thread.
thanks

So now, it looks like you did know about his issues with the previous incarnation of Sniktshop, aka outlawprodux aka Dave produx.
And you choose to ignore or lie about it.
And the "people in many industries have a similar business practice" comment, are you referring to recasting or just not
sending people what they paid for.
You never did answer my questions regarding recasting.
And stop sidestepping and dancing around the 2 main issue. That tactic is all too familiar.
I think with your reply, you lost a lot of creditability.

Based on your FB post about the purse snatching, you have a sense of right and wrong.
So, i will break the issues down in simple terms:
Is it right or wrong to take $ and not deliver on the product?
Is it right or wrong to take someone else's work and make a knockoff for your own profit?
Simple yes or no and stop dancing around the issue.
 
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Tensions run high in a thread like this, but I think we should refrain from letting this deteriorate with name calling. It works best if we stick to the facts, which are as follows:

1. The Snikt Shop is selling at least one version of a helmet that's been recasted.

2. The Snikt Shop has taken thousands of dollars from customers without sending them the product(s) ordered.

3. The Snikt Shop has paypal accounts in different names / email addresses.

So, in addition to RacerMachX's questions above, I'd like to add a few more for anybody defending the shop:

*What if you paid money for a product that was not delivered? What if, when you tried to contact the merchant, your emails were completely ignored? What if, due to paypal restrictions and the passage of time, you weren't able to file a claim against the merchant? What if, every time you looked at the merchant's facebook page, he was preparing his own costumes for a con? Would you still shrug it off and be happy?

Also, the notion of being "obsessed" with the Snikt Shop is incorrect. This thread, and the others on various cosplay sites, are about warning others so they don't lose precious time and money.
 
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This "Sonia" does not care. I'm fairly certain she's close to Logan, maybe even obsessed with him herself, and she comes on here looking for him to see her being his "white knight". She's hoping to be noticed by him.

She will and has overlooked every piece of evidence shown to her, shes clearly not right in the head herself. Reasoning with her is pointless.

However in addition to all of your questions, I'll add more:

1) Is it okay for a business to hack into another business's page, gathering information, messaging customers, deleting orders and trying to ruin or poach their business?

2) Is it okay for a person to make an enormous lie to slander a person, that affects their family, even their unborn child, and then to spread that story?

3) Is it okay to verbally and physically abuse women? (Because Jim has)

4) Is it okay for Snikt Shop to steal other people's work to use as the "base" for their own orders time and time again, profiting off of other people's hard work?
 
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Oh hahahahaha, don't. Just don't. You're already in over your head. Let me save you the disappointment and assure you that defending this parasite will do nothing neither for him or you. If you were drowning in a lake and this guy passed by, unless he thought that in saving you he'd get some sort of notoriety or be called a hero, if there was no one there to witness it and take pictures of him saving you so that he can then post it on the Internet...you'd drown. Stop. You look and sound juvenile so I'm going to make the easiest deductions. Either you are a juvenile and you've bought into his bs or you are just like him. A world of advice: take your loyalty elsewhere. He's only using you and others like you. He eats people like you for lunch. Run along now, the adults are talking.

lmao. i'm pretty sure i'm older than most (if not all) of you here. it's funny how every"one" of you is so quick to point fingers when these comments are among the most immature i've ever seen. if you don't like replies that agree with your little pity party (a.k.a. circle jerk), then maybe you should think twice before directing people to your pages. plus, my actual name is Sonia Messiah ... do you think web forums (even facebook), will accept that as genuine? hence the need for an alias (talk to my husband or my father-in-law, my sister-in-law or my niece... they all are required to use different names for sites) . what's your excuse? plus, i'm not being "used" as you say. people are able to have minds of their own (surprise surprise). i'm political, studied law, have a college degree, went to grad school, have a government job, chair several committees, am raising 4 children... shall i go on? pick someone else you can bully next time. not someone who will speak up... no one here seems to be able to handle it. ;) i'm sure you'll delete this comment as well and, even if you don't, it'll fall on deaf ears.
 
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lmao. i'm pretty sure i'm older than most (if not all) of you here. it's funny how every"one" of you is so quick to point fingers when these comments are among the most immature i've ever seen. if you don't like replies that agree with your little pity party (a.k.a. circle jerk), then maybe you should think twice before directing people to your pages. plus, my actual name is Sonia Messiah ... do you think web forums (even facebook), will accept that as genuine? hence the need for an alias (talk to my husband or my father-in-law, my sister-in-law or my niece... they all are required to use different names for sites) . what's your excuse? plus, i'm not being "used" as you say. people are able to have minds of their own (surprise surprise). i'm political, studied law, have a college degree, went to grad school, have a government job, chair several committees, am raising 4 children... shall i go on? pick someone else you can bully next time. not someone who will speak up... no one here seems to be able to handle it. ;) i'm sure you'll delete this comment as well and, even if you don't, it'll fall on deaf ears.

All the credentials in the world are meaningless if you can't use proper grammar. Plus no one cares who you are or what you do. You are defending a crook and that's the bottom line.
 
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lmao. i'm pretty sure i'm older than most (if not all) of you here. it's funny how every"one" of you is so quick to point fingers when these comments are among the most immature i've ever seen. if you don't like replies that agree with your little pity party (a.k.a. circle jerk), then maybe you should think twice before directing people to your pages. plus, my actual name is Sonia Messiah ... do you think web forums (even facebook), will accept that as genuine? hence the need for an alias (talk to my husband or my father-in-law, my sister-in-law or my niece... they all are required to use different names for sites) . what's your excuse? plus, i'm not being "used" as you say. people are able to have minds of their own (surprise surprise). i'm political, studied law, have a college degree, went to grad school, have a government job, chair several committees, am raising 4 children... shall i go on? pick someone else you can bully next time. not someone who will speak up... no one here seems to be able to handle it. ;) i'm sure you'll delete this comment as well and, even if you don't, it'll fall on deaf ears.

That is all well and good. Some of us can claim the same feats you have, Myself included... Although you will have to add 4 years of military service to that list. You seem to be avoiding the questions asked.

Once again lets look at the proven FACTS
1. David Eugene Winant Jr. is a thief arrested in Florida for theft.
2. David Eugene Winant Jr. Has recasted several items such as the magneto helmet shown here.
3. David Eugene Winant Jr. Has several outstanding orders dating back some 2 years now.
4. Several customers have come forward with stories of unfulfilled orders and no refund and shoddy product.
5. David Eugene Winant Jr. Removes any comment asking for said refunds or product to be delivered.

Care to answer those facts?
 
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Only mods have the ability to delete comments. None of the regular members have deleted anything. Also, this isn't about bullying anybody - it's about right and wrong and protecting other cosplayers from making a big mistake.
 
Re: Another recaster, and i think this time, I'm done..

lmao. i'm pretty sure i'm older than most (if not all) of you here. it's funny how every"one" of you is so quick to point fingers when these comments are among the most immature i've ever seen. if you don't like replies that agree with your little pity party (a.k.a. circle jerk), then maybe you should think twice before directing people to your pages. plus, my actual name is Sonia Messiah ... do you think web forums (even facebook), will accept that as genuine? hence the need for an alias (talk to my husband or my father-in-law, my sister-in-law or my niece... they all are required to use different names for sites) . what's your excuse? plus, i'm not being "used" as you say. people are able to have minds of their own (surprise surprise). i'm political, studied law, have a college degree, went to grad school, have a government job, chair several committees, am raising 4 children... shall i go on? pick someone else you can bully next time. not someone who will speak up... no one here seems to be able to handle it. ;) i'm sure you'll delete this comment as well and, even if you don't, it'll fall on deaf ears.

You come here to bully us and then call us the bullies, yup your a true Snikt Shop supporter....

All of those things you "say" you've accomplished, that you "claim" that you are, even if they are true (which I'm guessing they aren't), are pointless and null as long as you defend a criminal and support the misery of others.
 
Re: Another recaster, and i think this time, I'm done..

lmao. i'm pretty sure i'm older than most (if not all) of you here. it's funny how every"one" of you is so quick to point fingers when these comments are among the most immature i've ever seen. if you don't like replies that agree with your little pity party (a.k.a. circle jerk), then maybe you should think twice before directing people to your pages. plus, my actual name is Sonia Messiah ... do you think web forums (even facebook), will accept that as genuine? hence the need for an alias (talk to my husband or my father-in-law, my sister-in-law or my niece... they all are required to use different names for sites) . what's your excuse? plus, i'm not being "used" as you say. people are able to have minds of their own (surprise surprise). i'm political, studied law, have a college degree, went to grad school, have a government job, chair several committees, am raising 4 children... shall i go on? pick someone else you can bully next time. not someone who will speak up... no one here seems to be able to handle it. ;) i'm sure you'll delete this comment as well and, even if you don't, it'll fall on deaf ears.

With all your credentials you're even less justified in being so ignorant. Maybe you're one of the lucky ones he hasn't screwed over but that does not mean he hasn't screwed over countless others. So if you haven't been screwed over then your opinion on this matter is pointless and baseless. Try again kid.
 
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