PREDATORS - MOVIE INFO

Ok. I try to follow this post the best i could but c'mon they're 97 pages already, I dunno but i heard that Predators are not only hunting humans in this movie, there are other live species on the planet that are getting hunted also.. anybody heard this?
 
are we sure its a samurai?
i cant tell if its just material draped over the back. there seems to be a bill on the back side.

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crap i may have to resculpt my helmet
it is totally a samurai helmet base without the other adornments

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Yeah. Looks like he took a P1 bio and adapted it to his head by mashing it with a samurai helmet. Well, atleast we know he truly is crazy.
 
Thanks for the link Tusky! Great info in there: (spoilers a plenty of course!)

1. Black Predator

2. Dog Handler Predator

3. Falconer Predator

4. Classic Predator (crucified)

5. Predator Hounds

6. Various and Sundry Predator and/or Alien Creatures

"There is a Falconer, there is the Dog Handler and there is Black. Those are our three designations for our Super Predators a.k.a. the Berserker Predators"

Now we see that these three are called both Super Preds and Berserker Preds. Looks like they are using the term hand in hand, although I still don't get the term "Super" since they clearly don't come from Krypton, nor do they have super powers

"And then of course they all have their plasma cannons, and each one of them has a different function," continues Nicotero. "There is another Super Predator called Baltimore, and one of his weapons is a UAV [unmanned aerial vehicle] falcon that can launch off his shoulders.

Sounds like the Falconer is called Baltimore, or Mr Plow as we like to call him here due to his massive plow-like Bio. Also sounds like his plasma canon might double as the UAV falcon? Just a guess on my part.

But for all the newfangled alien action in the film, this crew also remembers where the dreadlocked Predators first began -- back in the original 1987 Arnold Schwarzenegger classic. Nicotero, director Nimrod Antal and producer Robert Rodriguez sought to pay tribute to the innovative creature design from that film.

"We refer to him as Classic," says Nicotero of their callout to the old-school Predator. "We recreated him when [our puppeteer] Shannon [Shea] worked at Stan Winston Studios on the original version and he worked on the set. So we were actually there. … We were going back to the original film in terms of tone and spirit. You know, when you watch the last AVP movie, it's like a Freddy Vs. Jason movie. They just took out Freddy and Jason and put in aliens. So it's really going back to the spirit of what the film was originally intended to be. … It was really the first time that we had seen this Classic Predator look since the first movie, because the designs had changed and everyone put their fingerprints on it here and there. So it kind of went back to the beginning. It was really exciting for everybody. It was one of those situations where you can't just take a mold off of the shelf and go, 'O.K., well here's the Predator hand.' And now we're going to make every single piece, all the dreadlocks and all of the jewelry on the dreadlocks. And every single piece had to be sculpted and molded and designed and manufactured."

Derek Mears, a.k.a. Jason Voorhees from the Friday the 13th remake, is playing the Classic Predator. At approximately 6 feet 3 inches tall, he's a big guy. But not so much when compared to the actors playing the Super Predators.

"They are a lot taller and, as you can see, a lot leaner," says Nicotero. "Robert Rodriguez and Nimrod, when we first started the project, they used a really great analogy. [They] said the Classic Predator is a cassette tape and the new Predators are the iPod version. So that kind of triggered a lot of visual things in my head, in terms of making them taller, making them sleek and keeping the armor really close to the body so that they are not bulky, because we wanted to get the idea that they are fast and that they're elegant and that they are efficient. Even in terms of the dreadlocks and stuff … [we wanted] that kind of Rasta look, but we swept all the dreadlocks back. We made the face a lot longer. We just wanted everything about them to look more elegant, like a black widow. We wanted it to just be really deadly looking."

Hmmm...interesting that the "Classic" Pred (at 6 feet three inches) is shorter than the Berserkers. That means these Preds are going to be freaking giants. Humans standing beside them would come up to what - their waist?! Not sure how I feel about that, but I guess I will find out when we see them on the screen.

Plus, they swept the dreads back (just as we confirmed with the pics of Tusky) and made the face longer and more elegant. It will be interesting to see how they look under those masks. Hopefully we only get glimpses of their faces in the movie and don't see anything until near the end. I also really like how they summed up the Predator: "fast, elegant and efficient"
 
"No CG in the Predators," states Nicotero. "Only when they cloak and de-cloak. When they're cloaked and they're running and jumping and leaping, those will be digital, because you'll only be able to see the outline of them. But we did a couple of shots with the Classic Predator and Mr. Black [Predator] running into each other for the beginning of this super confrontation, where they finally meet and fight. And I asked the stunt guy, 'Have you ever done this with human beings?' And he said no. He said he had done it with guys in suits, but never with the level of ferocity that they fought with. It was amazing. After each take I ran in and said, 'You guys, are you alright? Is everything okay in there?' They're all wearing suits and they can't see, they can't breathe."

What I take out this is its confirmed to be a different clan from what we've seen thus far. Cause the Classic predator is prob going to be the same clan or race as the first Predator and the new one goings to be of a different race.
I mean i got that with the "super Black Predator" thing too, but this just confirms it for me.


And I think that UAV Falcon thing is pretty cool, I'm curious what else they do with the other 2 Cannons and what makes them unique.
 
Shock Till You Drop's set visit: Part 1


Original article

"Let me start out by saying I'm a major "Predator" geek. I had the movie on VHS in the '80s and watched it over and over again. I know every cheesy one liner from the film. I had a subway poster from "Predator 2" that I hung in my dorm room at college. I read the Dark Horse comic books as well as the novels. I was also on board for the "Aliens vs. Predator" comics and movies, for better or worse. So when the chance to visit the set of Predators came up in December 2009, I was ready hang the other Shock Till You Drop writers from a tree by their feet to get the opportunity to go.

It's a short ride from Houston, TX where CS is based to Austin, TX. I knew Robert Rodriguez's Troublemaker Studios was in our capital city, but didn't know exactly where. As the other online press and I rode a bus to the studio, I saw it took us near the new airport. As it turns out, Troublemaker Studios is located at the site of the old airport. In fact they shot their green screen footage in the old hangar that used to house the Texas governor's private plane.

As we arrived at the rather nondescript looking studio, we were ushered into their office building and into a conference room. As we walked in, we saw pre-production art and storyboards all over the walls. That's when we got our look at the new Predators. There was the "Dog Handler" which had an alien-looking dog. It looked like a cross between the dogs in "Ghostbusters" and something off of a heavy metal album cover. Then there was the "Falconer" which, of course, used an alien hunting falcon. The falcon looked metallic and robotic – yet another new device in their arsenal. Then there was the "Super Predator", or "Black Predator" as they were alternately calling it. If the one from the first "Predator" (which they referred to as the "Classic Predator") was Tom Cruise, then this one was the Mickey Rourke of Predators. He was bigger, badder, and uglier. When I got a look at its face later in the production art office, I saw he looked like he had a bigger head with a much more crab-like face than the original. He was one ugly…well, you know.

Also seen on the wall was a different type of alien. He was tall, pale, and a little Giger-esque. He vaguely resembled the aliens from "Independence Day". As we discover later in the film, he's a bit of a red herring for our newly captured humans.

On the far wall were dozens of location photos from forests, deserts, rain forests, and waterfalls. These were the locations where the movie would be shot with Earth doubling for a Predator hunting planet, not their home planet. It is, in essence, a game preserve.

After taking in all the pre-production art, we were ushered out into the parking lot to the outdoor "Predator Hunting Camp" set. There were a bunch of large shipping containers stacked up in a circle. On the inside face of them, fake rock had been built up all over the place. We found a passageway through the containers and walked through a fake cave. We then emerged into the Hunting Camp. Inside the "rock" enclosure, dead trees were all over the place. Hanging from them were skeletons stripped to the bone. Littering the ground were various bones and skulls. A large angular piece of metal was in the middle of the camp. Was it crash debris? A device of some sort? We didn't know. There was also a large metal cage to one side. And nearby was a frame for tanning skins. If you stumbled upon this in the real world, you'd think you had run across some sort of satanic cult camp.

Adrien Brody described shooting on the set when we spoke with him later in the day: "I was sitting with the Predator on this totem pole and we're in this horrific environment. The camp that we're shooting in, once it's done up and things are burning and carcasses are hanging, it is hell. It is hell. I looked around and I was like, 'Wow, this is hell. This is what hell would look like.' I'm interacting with the Predator and it was a dream-like moment because it was so surreal that I'm in this situation with something that I grew up with and had such a significance. Yet like, in between shots he was like, 'Are you all right, brother? Did I hurt you?' It's just funny chit chatting with this monster and articulating jaw."

While there, we met the greens keeper for the production. He showed us how they extensively used real plants on the set to give everything a more realistic feel. This made things a bit difficult when Austin had one of the biggest freezes on record a couple of weeks earlier. He said at one point they had even done some reshoots in the Texas pine forests and they were able to dress them up with other real plants to make it double for the alien forest. When I asked if they had problems with local birds flying through the alien set and ruining scenes, he said the bigger problem were deer. They'd wander through the set at the studio in the morning and eat the plants. They had to be shooed away. I'm sure the Predators could have taken care of them.

As we walked out of the Hunting Camp set, I was met by an amazing sight. Maybe 100-feet away on the other side of a chain link fence was a preschool playground next to Troublemaker Studios. It was hilarious to think that just out of sight of this little playground was the hellacious world of the Predators. While the kids couldn't see the skeletons or Predators, they could see stored props of helicopters, prison watchtowers, and other awesome things. My school was never that cool growing up.

We were then ushered into a large building that used to be the hangar that held the governor's plane. In its place now was a large rock set with some bits of alien machinery. It turns out this is part of the quarry set where our heroes discover a massive abandoned alien mining machine. Off to the side and out of sight you could see storage for props for various other Rodriguez movies including "Spy Kids", "Shorts", and "Sin City".

The tour then took us deeper into the building to the green screen area. This was where much of "Sin City" was filmed. There I got my first look at one of the Predators in full costume. We saw Carey Jones decked out as a "Dog Handler" Predator and taking photos for various reference stills. As he posed, the most notable feature on the costume was the large tusks on the mask. While departing from the original design, it still very much fit the style of the world. After shooting, Jones came over to chat with us. Now I'm about 6'6" inches tall. I expected the Berserker to tower over me. But much to my surprise he was maybe only an inch or two taller than me thanks to the tall shoes he was wearing. We joked that maybe I could play a Predator in the movie! One could only hope!

While we were standing there watching everything, creature effects supervisor Greg Nicotero came over and spoke with us. He started out by telling us about the new Predators..."
 
More info from iesb HERE

Greg Nicotero: The only one that has face articulation is Mr. Black. He is the only one that actually reveals his face. All the other ones they don't they just, you just leave them with a mask on.

When we first come upon the classic Predator, he's been vanquished by our super Predator. So he has been stripped of all of his armor. There is this really great reveal where he sort of had been kind of tied up and all of his armor has been taken off. And it's kind of thrown around the ground. We have these great iconic moments where, he starts putting his armor back on.
 
Which this means that humans will start getting killed, then the predator (classic) will get capture by the Bad Bloods and then humans will free the Classic one, Cause is the only way to kill the bad guys; Put his armor back on and fight the Enemy. Classic Pred kills Bad Bloods+kills humans= P1 is a Bad ass MOFO
 
2 things, 1st hes not the CLASSIC predator if he is only 6'3. hes basically a recast, you know, shrunken down and less detailed than the original.

2nd booooooooooo at only the black unveiling his face.


i tried so hard not to read this thred over the past 2 weeks hehe, i have even avoided watching any of the shorts on the cast characters.

but im still uber pumped, roll on Predators , now matter how small you are.
 
Even thought the actors are only 6'3"...its all in how its shot. They may look 8' tall when its said and done. Well, at least I hope so. o_O
 
Look at all this info pouring in!! Thanks for that link Billy Sole...

To quote from that link:
If the one from the first "Predator" (which they referred to as the "Classic Predator") was Tom Cruise, then this one was the Mickey Rourke of Predators. He was bigger, badder, and uglier. When I got a look at its face later in the production art office, I saw he looked like he had a bigger head with a much more crab-like face than the original. He was one ugly…well, you know.

I love the comparison of Tom Cruise to Mickey Rourke haha! And the face of Mr Black is more crab-like...interesting.
 
Anytime...

So, when the "classic" Predator is putting his armor back on, is there going to be a slow motion shot where Roland says:
"He's beginning to believe..." o_O
 
I'm trying so hard not to set myself up for a disappointment, because right now I couldn't be more stoked for this movie.
 
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