Olympus Has Fallen (Post-release)

Too bad Alan Rickman was not in this. I did enjoy the action sequences. Wow...a whole lot of head shots.
 
You know, one thing I notice is that as the bar for measuring movies is constantly raised that we get more and more critical of them - and when something doesn't stack up with CGI or uniqueness, that they are more or less considered forgettable...and that's kind of disappointing. To the credit of Die Hard, yes, many people have said that it's like Die Hard but in the White House. I don't have a problem with that...and actually was something I liked - a modern movie that reminded me of how great the action/concept of a 25 year old movie was and still applies today.

I went into this movie with no expectations and as such I wasn't let down. I love movies like Airforce One where we are tested as a nation and a hero arises to save the day - a simple premise, but always does a great job at pumping up patriotism.

Just my 2c.
 
I had no problem with this being a rip on Die Hard. Hollywood tends to copy success. Sometimes it works well.

The differrence is hating a movie becuase it' a remake, ripp off, sequel, etc Whicj I see lots of folks do and I've always thought that unfair. Best to take a film and judge it as to how well it told it's story. In this case it was just "ok". Nothing more, nothing less.
 
Sure, it's a mindless action flick, but I enjoyed it. I couldn't help but think though that this is what the 24 movie should have been. Butler even did the Jack slide to take out a terrorist.
 
I saw it last night and my wife and I both really enjoyed, sure the base premise is a bit much (would require way too many things to go exactly as planned) and true that it was rather reminiscent of Die Hard but that didn't ruin my enjoyment of the movie anyway. I thought that it was pretty well acted and it moved along really nicely. It was kind of nice to see someone in Hollywood finally remember that the Secret Service does more than just guard the President and that they're actually part of the Treasury Dept. with investigating forgery being one of their actual primary, but less well known, duties.

Anyone catch the continuity error between the scenes where Gerard Butler's character acquires an MP5 but by the next scene he no longer has it and reacquires a new one?

I wonder if after this movie came out made the Secret Service re-evaluate their security procedures and protocols for the White House to make sure that they're prepared for something like this, as unlikely as it may be.
 
I know a Baltimore County Fire Chief who trains his crew in DC. Apparently the roads were created and arranged in such a crazy confusing way to impede and confuse an invading force. I can tell you from working in DC, getting anywhere is crazy. I could never see anyone taking the White House in thirteen minutes.
 
Saw it this weekend and I loved it. Die Hard at the white house? All the way, but I love these style of stories. It's not an Oscar contender by any means; so i don't go in expecting such performances. Things go boom, SS make admirable last stands, lone agent who loves to tell the General and everyone else to go **** themselves; I love it!

One thing I was not expecting was sparkplug to get away. I thought for sure they were going to go all cliche and have him get captured. From the grate to the gate, I was fully expecting something to go wrong, was glad I was proven wrong.
 
Personally knowing Retired, and Active duty Agents still assigned to POTUS, I can assure you that no scenerio is to out there for them.



Riceball said:
I wonder if after this movie came out made the Secret Service re-evaluate their security procedures and protocols for the White House to make sure that they're prepared for something like this, as unlikely as it may be.
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Its mindless action, but I enjoyed it. Kinda eary that two movies about the destruction of DC are coming out in close succession to each other, is the Gov trying to acclimate us for some kind of false flag event? /end conspiracy theory lols.
 
LoreTees said:
Its mindless action, but I enjoyed it. Kinda eary that two movies about the destruction of DC are coming out in close succession to each other, is the Gov trying to acclimate us for some kind of false flag event? /end conspiracy theory lols.
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Meh...2 movies with nearly the exact same story line...must have been a race to the box office...Butler, Freeman, and Ekhart vs. Tatum and Foxx...lol...
 
Saw this over the weekend, and pretty much agree that it was silly, but fun, and I feel like I got my money's worth.

Had some thoughts/questions mainly based around my ignorance of military protocols:

- Why do the Raptors fly right next to the plane when they were trying to get it out of restricted airspace? Even if that plane didn't have those side-mounted guns (are those standard or custom?), our guys aren't in a position to do anything but ram the guy. Why not hang back and have weapons locked on from the start?

- Does the Secret Service really not have body armor or assault weapons in case the White House is under siege? I was kinda shaking my head after seeing the 100th guy in a suit, with a pistol, run out into the open and get shot.

- Why does Gerard Butler still have access to all the White House computers 18 months (or even 1 day) after he quit the Secret Service? Doesn't that mean that Dermot Mulroney could've also logged in and switched the cameras back on at any time?

- Credit where credit is due, I like how they dealt with the kid, where he stayed hidden, and once he was found, they got him out immediately. I was really afraid that we'd see him sneaking around and saving Butler at some point, but they did it right.
 
Aberration said:
Saw this over the weekend, and pretty much agree that it was silly, but fun, and I feel like I got my money's worth.

Had some thoughts/questions mainly based around my ignorance of military protocols:

- Why do the Raptors fly right next to the plane when they were trying to get it out of restricted airspace? Even if that plane didn't have those side-mounted guns (are those standard or custom?), our guys aren't in a position to do anything but ram the guy. Why not hang back and have weapons locked on from the start?

- Does the Secret Service really not have body armor or assault weapons in case the White House is under siege? I was kinda shaking my head after seeing the 100th guy in a suit, with a pistol, run out into the open and get shot.

- Why does Gerard Butler still have access to all the White House computers 18 months (or even 1 day) after he quit the Secret Service? Doesn't that mean that Dermot Mulroney could've also logged in and switched the cameras back on at any time?

- Credit where credit is due, I like how they dealt with the kid, where he stayed hidden, and once he was found, they got him out immediately. I was really afraid that we'd see him sneaking around and saving Butler at some point, but they did it right.
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1. Not too sure but could be SOP when an aircraft doesn't respond to radio calls, flying next to them allows the "escort" to use hand signals and look into the cockpit to see if anything is going on or amiss in there. But normally they would probably hang back and to the side when escorting an aircraft but then again, most planes don't have side firing weapons of any kind.

As far as the guns on the C-130 go, it was meant to be some sort of gunship (look up AC-130) but they're not meant for air-to-air combat. What the gunship normally does is roll on its side a bit so that the guns are aimed at the ground and flies in a big circle shooting at everything on the ground within the radius its flying.

2. That whole scene with the Secret Service pouring out of the White House pretty laughable. I have no idea what their SOP would be in such a situation but I highly doubt it would be to pour out of the White House blindly like a bunch of angry bees or ants. I'd also imagine that they'd have ready access to body armor and rifles in case of attack by a heavily armed attacker.

3. Gerard Butler never left the Secret Service, the Secret Service does more than just guard the President and other members of the government. The Secret Service is really a part of the Treasury Dept. and their actual primary duties involve investigating financial crimes, anti-counterfeiting operations is actually one of their original and still remains one of their duties today. Still, it is a little unlikely that Gerard Butler would still have access to all of the codes when he is no longer on Presidential Detail but maybe they hadn't changed them yet although they've had 6 months to do so.
 
Saw this yesterday and I really enjoyed it. I too used the comparison of die hard in the whitehouse and its appropriate. That being said, there really aren't any new concepts for action flicks nowadays. They all follow one of only a handful of scenarios so complaining that its not as good as whatever shouldn't really be used. It's to the point nowadays that if you go into an action flick, you should expect it to be not as good as whatever film is similar. Just go in with low expectations, turn off and watch some bad guys get killed. They definitely did a good job with the bad guys as the entire time I jumped for joy when he killed one of them.

As for those questions, my interpretation is:

1: I agree with Rice but also to add that it also probably helps to actually see them on either side. As if to say "ok person who isn't supposed to be here, we have fighter aircraft in either side of you. Lets not do anything stupid" sort of like a form of intimidation.

2:perhaps they're a little more lax on procedures when it comes to home turf. I mean when POTUS is out and about, I'm sure they're all wearing Kevlar but in the whitehouse, it's just sidearms. You do see at one point that they were grabbing assault rifles from weapon lockers and also I saw P90's, Uzi's and MP5's so they definitely have the hardware.

3: Again, Riceball got it right as he was still in the secret service so all his ID's worked, only he wasn't part of the POTUS security detail. It also wasn't that he couldn't be trusted, the president just saw him as a reminder and had him transferred. Not to mention all the safes he got into only had the presidents sat phone and a thumb print scanner. Dermis Mulroney was retired and working in the private sector so all his access would of been removed.
 
Thanks for the input, I guess I spaced on the part that explained Butler's new assignment after the skip in time. And I do remember them getting rifles out of lockers, I just don't remember seeing anyone use them.
 
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Unbelievable, improbable,,, OUTSTANDING!
 
It was okay. I really enjoyed the intense moments where 'Olympus' was initially being invaded, but I thought it went downhill from there.
 
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